[Bug 1772271] Re: Stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens, on AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 with Radeon HD 3450
No, it's not a hardware problem. It's a software problem (see the links in comment #10). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1772271 Title: Stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens, on AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 with Radeon HD 3450 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1772271/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1772271] Re: Stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens, on AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 with Radeon HD 3450
I see that my motherboard is nvidia. i am running off the radeon card. should i experiment going back to the motherboard video and see if the mouse problem is video related? the MB will be even older -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1772271 Title: Stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens, on AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 with Radeon HD 3450 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1772271/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1772271] Re: stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens
Yes I would expect Xorg to be slightly better right now. For reasons unknown as yet, moving the mouse in a Wayland session forces the GPU to redraw everything which will slow it down and stutter more. But in Xorg sessions the mouse pointer can move freely without the GPU having to redraw anything. I'm surprised you see a difference with lowlatency kernels, but if it works for you then great. So this is a general performance bug. Even though the system is over 10 years old I think it should be performing better, but know that gnome- shell is not yet fast enough for most machines, even new ones. I will continue working though the lists of performance problems here: https://trello.com/c/Q6JYXPPs https://trello.com/c/pe5mRmx7 and hopefully in future we will have good enough performance to close this bug. ** Summary changed: - stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens + Stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens, on AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 with Radeon HD 3450 ** Also affects: mutter (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: mutter (Ubuntu) Status: New => Triaged ** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Medium ** Changed in: mutter (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Medium ** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1772271 Title: Stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens, on AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 with Radeon HD 3450 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1772271/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1772271] Re: stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens
I ran a bunch of configs none of them had a very big load on the processors. gnome shell 15%pk although eyeballing it, the stable mouse conditions look a little less(?) natural boot: both wayland and xorg have stuttering mouse. boot adv option: non low latency: both wayland and xorg have stable mouse, except wayland gets 'stuck' when crossing off the background onto the favorites bar (mine is on the bottom). The mouse is stable in both regions, but gets hung up when crossing the border. There is no hang up when crossing desktop icons. xorg looks better than wayland under rapid motion and careful examination. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1772271 Title: stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1772271/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1772271] Re: stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens
Thanks. Please also try: 1. Logging into both Wayland and Xorg sessions. Is one better than the other? 2. Open a terminal window and run 'top'. Do you see any process with high CPU usage during the problem? ** Tags added: radeon -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1772271 Title: stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1772271/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1772271] Re: stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens
peter@peter-GeForce6100PM-M2:~$ lspci -k 00:00.0 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a1) Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems MCP61 Memory Controller 00:01.0 ISA bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 LPC Bridge (rev a2) Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems MCP61 LPC Bridge 00:01.1 SMBus: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 SMBus (rev a2) Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems MCP61 SMBus Kernel driver in use: nForce2_smbus Kernel modules: i2c_nforce2 00:01.2 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a2) Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems MCP61 Memory Controller 00:02.0 USB controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 USB 1.1 Controller (rev a3) Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems MCP61 USB 1.1 Controller Kernel driver in use: ohci-pci 00:02.1 USB controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 USB 2.0 Controller (rev a3) Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems MCP61 USB 2.0 Controller Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci 00:04.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 PCI bridge (rev a1) 00:05.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems MCP61 High Definition Audio Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel 00:06.0 IDE interface: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 IDE (rev a2) Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems MCP61 IDE Kernel driver in use: pata_amd Kernel modules: pata_amd, pata_acpi 00:07.0 Bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2) Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems MCP61 Ethernet Kernel driver in use: forcedeth Kernel modules: forcedeth 00:08.0 IDE interface: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller (rev a2) Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems MCP61 SATA Controller Kernel driver in use: sata_nv Kernel modules: sata_nv, pata_acpi 00:08.1 IDE interface: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller (rev a2) Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems MCP61 SATA Controller Kernel driver in use: sata_nv Kernel modules: sata_nv, pata_acpi 00:09.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) Kernel driver in use: pcieport Kernel modules: shpchp 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) Kernel driver in use: pcieport Kernel modules: shpchp 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) Kernel driver in use: pcieport Kernel modules: shpchp 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control Kernel driver in use: k8temp Kernel modules: k8temp 01:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller (rev 43) Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller Kernel driver in use: firewire_ohci Kernel modules: firewire_ohci 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450] Subsystem: Dell OptiPlex 980 Kernel driver in use: radeon Kernel modules: radeon 04:00.0 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VL805 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 01) Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VL805 USB 3.0 Host Controller Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd ** Tags added: apport-collected ** Description changed: mouse stutters when moving. This started after update from Ubuntu 16 to 18. Mouse is fine on initial boot, but after any shell window opens, the mouse then stutters in its movement. clicks work fine. almost looks like mouse is not getting its irq interrupts. Description: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Release: 18.04 also getting this error: ~$ apport-bug gtk (apport-gtk:18122): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:21:15.632: Theme parsing error: gtk-main.css:73:38: Failed to import: Error opening file /usr/share/themes/Radiance/gtk-3.20/apps/gnome-builder.css: No such file or directory dpkg-query: no packages found matching gtk Gtk-Message: 11:21:20.142: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. peter@peter-GeForce6100PM-M2:~$ apport-bug light-themes (apport-gtk:19203): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:29:01.986: Theme parsing error: gtk-main.css:73:38: Failed to import: Error opening file /usr/share/themes/Radiance/gtk-3.20/apps/gnome-builder.css: No such file or directory peter@peter-GeForce6100PM-M2:~$ (firefox:19566): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:30:11.449: Theme parsing error: gtk-main.css:73:38: Failed to import: Error opening file
[Bug 1772271] Re: stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens
When i use "advanced start up options" and use a previous non low latency load, everything stays normal. low latency version jumps -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1772271 Title: stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1772271/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1772271] Re: stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens
Please also: 1. Run 'lspci -k' and attach the output here. 2. Run 'apport-collect 1772271' on the machine. ** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1772271 Title: stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1772271/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1772271] Re: stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens
We're working on a few fixes in this area: https://trello.com/c/Q6JYXPPs In the meantime I suggest trying the normal Ubuntu kernel, not "lowlatency". In the past when I was investigating performance I found the unexpected problem of the "lowlatency" kernel actually being higher latency for graphics/input. Weird, I know. ** Tags added: performance ** Package changed: ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) => gnome-shell (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1772271 Title: stuttering mouse movement after any shell window opens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1772271/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
