[Bug 1778911] Re: freeipa-client hard depends on chrony
** Changed in: freeipa (Debian) Status: Unknown => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1778911 Title: freeipa-client hard depends on chrony To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceph/+bug/1778911/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1778911] Re: freeipa-client hard depends on chrony
Looks like this was fixed in 4.7.1-1 in Debian, so this is fixed >= Cosmic in Ubuntu. If you need a fix for an existing stable release, please comment with a justification against https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#When and complete steps 1 through 4 in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure - and go ahead with all the steps if you can. Note that that SRU team would need to make a final decision. ** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #909803 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=909803 ** Also affects: freeipa (Debian) via https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=909803 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Changed in: freeipa (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1778911 Title: freeipa-client hard depends on chrony To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceph/+bug/1778911/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1778911] Re: freeipa-client hard depends on chrony
Hi, we are using ntp as a standard service, and it's deployed and configured by puppet. So using chrony instead of ntp client is not really an option. I just wanted to mention a dirty but possible quickfix to get around this bug: apt install freeipa-client # let it correctly solve all dependencies and uninstall ntp for now dpkg --ignore-depends=freeipa-client -r chrony vi /var/lib/dpkg/status # remove chrony from dependencies list of freeipa-client package apt install ntp As you probably can imagine this should only be a temporary solution. Therefore we already repackaged the freeipa-client package, removed the chrony dependency and put it in our local Ubuntu mirror. I also think changing the chrony dependency to be a "recommends" instead of a "depends" is an essential change to the package. Unfortunately I am not really aware of how the voting and contribution to changes in Ubuntu packaging works. Please point me in the right direction! Thanks a lot and all the best! Jojo -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1778911 Title: freeipa-client hard depends on chrony To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceph/+bug/1778911/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1778911] Re: freeipa-client hard depends on chrony
I need a time daemon with server capabilities so we can easily monitor clock skew. Setting the dependency as recommends sounds like a great solution indeed. Thanks for taking it into consideration. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1778911 Title: freeipa-client hard depends on chrony To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceph/+bug/1778911/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1778911] Re: freeipa-client hard depends on chrony
Currently we have these: Reverse-Recommends == * ceph-base (for chrony) This is the same case as with Freeipa. * radioclk (for chrony) This is meant to provide DCF77 input to chrony, so ok Reverse-Depends === * freeipa-client(for chrony) * freeipa-server(for chrony) This is how this bug was reported. I think it is a common and working resolution to depend on the current timeserver. I'd vote for the Depends becoming recommends so that admins can remove the package if wanted. * gce-compute-image-packages(for chrony) That is an intentional "there you should sync with that" AFAIK. keeping as-is IMHO * maas-rack-controller (for chrony) * maas-region-api (for chrony) I know for MAAS that they really want this, even on a Container, so considering them ok'ish. They even modify chrony.conf and such, so there a depends is correct. In general I think the Ceph approach is good, keeping it as a recommends allows to remove it if needed. BTW Chrony on Containers will by default only serve the local time as syncing it would not work (CAP_SYS_TIME) anyway - so not much lost. systemd-timesyncd is "only" SNTP which has to be considered inferior to full ntp syncing. For Ceph and Freeipa once being a recommends, I'd wish there would be a dependency that says "but not in containers", but there is none. ** Also affects: ceph (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: ceph (Ubuntu) Status: New => Invalid ** Also affects: maas (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: maas (Ubuntu) Status: New => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1778911 Title: freeipa-client hard depends on chrony To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceph/+bug/1778911/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1778911] Re: freeipa-client hard depends on chrony
I agree that in a world of systemd-timesyncd by default packages could stop depending on time-servers in most of the cases. But that is not a bug in chrony but in freeipa. Also it is not clear yet why your puppet would install one and then the other, I'd ask you to file an extra bug with a bit more details about that aspect. ** Also affects: freeipa (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: freeipa (Ubuntu) Status: New => Triaged ** Changed in: chrony (Ubuntu) Status: New => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1778911 Title: freeipa-client hard depends on chrony To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceph/+bug/1778911/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
