[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
In my case (Ubuntu 20.04.1), update-notifier was being spawned every time I log in (regardless of my software update settings) due to this file: /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop This file has a "X-GNOME-Autostart-Delay=60", causing a 60-second delay, so from a user's perspective it might seem like it appears randomly, rather than being triggered due to logging in. In case it helps someone else, you can disable this behavior by renaming the file: sudo mv /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop.disabled -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
** Tags added: fr-303 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
eoan has reached end of life, so this bug will not be fixed for that release ** Changed in: software-properties (Ubuntu Eoan) Status: Confirmed => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
This is a silly and very user hostile bug that is still present in 19.10. Seems crazy that it's basically being ignored. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
** Tags removed: rls-ee-incoming -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: software-properties (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
** Tags added: id-5d2752b415f430133d5cd4a1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
** Also affects: software-properties (Ubuntu Eoan) Importance: High Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
This continues to happen, more aggressively on 19.04 than on previous versions. This system popped up with updates today has been running 19.04 the longest of all my systems with "never" as the selected option and it just keeps checking for updates. I've got two processes seemingly related, one was started by init 14921 1 0 08:37 tty2 00:00:15 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/update- manager --no-update --no-focus-on-map The other must be the gui who has the gnome-session-binary as the parent process 2351 1704 0 08:28 tty2 00:00:00 update-notifier -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
Did a PS on one of these systems this morning. Found some shenanigans. root 3380 1 0 08:25 ?00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/apt/apt.systemd.daily install root 3384 3380 0 08:25 ?00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/apt/apt.systemd.daily lock_is_held install root 3415 3384 99 08:25 ?00:00:09 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade Grep for "updates" yielded this: $ ps -ef | grep upgrade root 1182 1 0 08:22 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown --wait-for-signal root 3415 3384 14 08:25 ?00:00:22 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade root 5356 3415 1 08:27 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade After I killed 3415 I was able to get the apt lock and proceed with a manual `sudo apt-get upgrade` -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
** Changed in: software-properties (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
In the updates tab, I keep all three boxes checked under "Install updates from:", because I like to manually run `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade` whenever I have a good stable release of software and feel like stomaching a raft of system changes. In past versions of ubuntu going back 'Dapper Drake', I'd change the setting for "automatically check for updates" and it was generally good about respecting this setting from my recollection. I'm not sure which release changed this but it's for sure worse, the updater tries to run in the background, and I've noticed it's easy to repeat as I've installed 19.04 on various machines. I've got laptops and desktops alike with 19.04 installed, and they all have this problem. I tried letting it actually do the updates, but that didn't work so I generally cancel it. This non-deterministic behavior is nonsensical. When update-notifier runs, check this flag and quit if it's set to 'Never'. There's really nothing else to debug, is there? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
** Changed in: software-properties (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
Also, is this a desktop machine / does it have PackageKit installed, and if so, which frontends for packagekit? ** Package changed: update-notifier (Ubuntu) => software-properties (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
Could you include a ps axjf or some other process tree so we can see what's running when this happen? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
Also, final question, did you turn off "Download and install automatically" for security updates? If you only turn of "Automatically check for updates", then we won't automatically check for updates, but if you ran apt update, the next day-ish all updates will be downloaded automatically (it should be only security updates, but it also downloads non-security ones). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
Thank you for your bug report, it seems like unattendeed-upgrade is happening anyway not respecting that settings which is confusing at best, it can also lead to use of unwanted data ** Changed in: update-notifier (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High ** Tags added: rls-ee-incoming -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
** Package changed: ubuntu => update-notifier (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1834226] Re: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. It seems that your bug report is not filed about a specific source package though, rather it is just filed against Ubuntu in general. It is important that bug reports be filed about source packages so that people interested in the package can find the bugs about it. You can find some hints about determining what package your bug might be about at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage. You might also ask for help in the #ubuntu-bugs irc channel on Freenode. To change the source package that this bug is filed about visit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1834226/+editstatus and add the package name in the text box next to the word Package. [This is an automated message. I apologize if it reached you inappropriately; please just reply to this message indicating so.] ** Tags added: bot-comment -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 Title: update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never" To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1834226/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
