[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
Thanks Bryce, for your false accusations. Your comment is again ridden by mistakes (who would have expected otherwise?). 1) first of all, it's Rolf 2) I think I have been spending much more time cleaning up your uncommented (and thus rather quick) incorrect work on this bug, because contrary to you I explained myself. Yet you were still so disrespectful as to completely ignore my comments. You now talk of CoC? (°.°) 3) and your most central claim, that bug 173837 fixed this request is of course bogus as well. That bug is marked fix released and I have the latest hardy-updates version installed. So, I challenge you to explain to me why there is still no entry new login in window here How about some introspection on your part? For all I can see, the enhancement request is not fixed, but of course there is nothing I can do about it since you are the man in charge (_) -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
I dug around a little more (yes, Bryce, it took me quite some time because unlike you I don't believe in shoot from the hip but I like to fully understand something before making wrong claims five times in a row). Here is what it looks like. This appears to be neither a RFE for xorg-server nor one for gdm, but one in the void between them (most certainly not bug 173837). It looks like gdmflexiserver -n is the command called to implement the new login in a window. gdmflexiserver can use either xnest or xephyr to have X-in-a-window. gdm thus recommends, but does not strictly depend on xserver-xephyr and xnest. Because of that, the menu entry I was talking about here is still present, but disabled by default (bug 140530), It can be reenabled with alacarte (right click on the Applications menu and choose Edit menu)* In essence, this bug report has very close ties to a number of other bugs. But, I don't think it fully is a dupe of either one of them. The correct solution IMHO would be as proposed in bug 140530 comment 4 to have a third package provide the menu entry (which can then be enabled by default) which depends on both xserver-xephyr and gdm. Anything else is a workable and maybe even more elegant fix, but not 100% correct. Since that proposal was already more or less rejected, I guess the chances of it becoming true are slim and thus the current status of wontfix probably accurately reflects the situation. To sum it up: jumping to conclusions prematurely does not help anyone. We all make mistakes, we should not make the same ones five times in a row. At least after the second time, start asking more questions until the problem is indeed fully understood. I hope that possibly my sermon above might help somebody in the future googling for where the heck is that new login in a window menu entry for xnest or xephyr. * Footnote: For me, there was the additional problem that there were some left-over files in ~/.local/share/applications of my main account which I needed to clean out before that hidden-by-default entry for New login in window would show up. -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
Ralf, in addition to using up my time you are failing to follow the code of conduct - http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/. xorg-server does not place entries in menus so by definition you have MISFILED THIS BUG. I have been trying to help you get your problem solved by finding where it DOES need to be filed and put it there. Indeed, the fix for 173837 will result in the change you desire so it is the correct solution. It's too bad you don't wish to have your bug duped to that as it should, so I will close it instead. -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
Bryce, are you learn-resistant? Do you have problems with the English language, with my English? Fourth time, fourth error. Please go outside and get some fresh air. This bug is not a dupe of 173837 and it is not a bug in gdm. It is a wishlist request for xephyr to have a menu entry (look at the bug title, for chrissakes!). xephyr bugs go to xorg-server, so it was correct all along until you came in four times and messed things up four times. Get off the dope, dude! PS: I even tried to catch you in IRC, you weren't around. ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: gdm = xorg-server -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
For the sake of the other bug reports you work on, I also kindly ask you to start asking more questions and greatly decrease the number of real changes you make. Ask first and only when you fully understand a report make your changes. -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
Bryce, this is the third time you touch this bug and the third you make a mistake which I needed to correct. Are you ever going to smarten up? Please stay away from this bug, you don't seem to understand what it is about. ** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 173837 'new login in a window' should use Xephyr rather than Xnest -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
Frankly, I don't know what exactly bug 173837 which you think this one is a dupe of is or isn't about. There seems to be a multitude of things lumped together with a description vaguely resembling what I am talking about here. bug 173837 was closed out yesterday by Sebastien with the comment gdmflexiserver uses Xephyr rather Xnest if it's installed in hardy. I don't still don't see a menu entry Applications-System Tools-log in in nested window which used to be there but for the xnest package. Thus, the bugs cannot be dupes. -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: xorg-server = gdm -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 173837 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173837 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 173837 'new login in a window' should use Xephyr rather than Xnest -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 173837 'new login in a window' should use Xephyr rather than Xnest -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
By 'menu' I assume it's meant an entry in the gdm startup stuff... in any case, not really an xorg-server bug so bumping package to gdm. ** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: xorg-server = gdm -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
Bryce, I was referring to the Applications menu, the one defined by the entries in /usr/share/menu/. There is no entry to start xephyr in a nested window via the menu, there is only New Login. Reassigning back to xorg-server. ** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: gdm = xorg-server -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 173837 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173837 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 173837 'new login in a window' should use Xephyr rather than Xnest -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
LCID Fire, please forgive my ignorance, but I fail to see any relevant connection. -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
I'd rather say it should be done as mentioned in bug #217798 -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 189579] Re: xephyr should have a menu entry
Not likely something we want to do on the standard installation, the corresponding gdm is already not listed for menu simplication -- xephyr should have a menu entry https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189579 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
