[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Here :) https://code.launchpad.net/~tormodvolden/compiz/no-ati-laptop I was just unaware there was a bzr repo for it, the launchpad package page doesn't indicate it either (and I didn't read debian/control well enough). -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
With a fine-tuned blacklisting still needed, I would like to rewrite the blacklisting code in the wrapper script to: - match DRI driver instead of DDX. Use xdriinfo instead of grepping X logs etc. - match combinations of driver and card ID - separate the blacklist in a configuration file, instead of hard-coding it in the script, in a format like: driver pci-id # comment and LP reference driver * # block all cards if really needed - maybe combine blacklist and whitelist handling Travis, Bryce, what do you think? How is the packaging work coordinated with Debian? -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Totally agree with Saïvann. The whole white/blacklisting stuff in the compiz wrapper could need an overhaul, but for now it's just urgent to get that ugly ati-on-laptop block away, so that people have a chance to test compiz. ** Attachment added: debdiff from compiz 0.7.7+git20080807-0ubuntu4 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17156232/compiz_0.7.7%2Bgit20080807-0ubuntu5.debdiff -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
This bug was fixed in the package compiz - 1:0.7.7+git20080807-0ubuntu5 --- compiz (1:0.7.7+git20080807-0ubuntu5) intrepid; urgency=low * drop debian/patches/036_blacklist_ati_on_laptop.patch which was a firefighting hack (LP: #201330) -- Tormod Volden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:21:31 +0200 ** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Released -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Tormod : Thank you very much for taking that task. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Thank you very much indeed. 2008/8/29 Saïvann Carignan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tormod : Thank you very much for taking that task. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Where is the bzr branch you made for this change and why haven't you requested to have it merged into the compiz team repo? -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged Target: None = intrepid-alpha-6 -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
I want to add this argument : When blacklisting all cards, we lose knowledge about the real bugs and we don't help fixing them. I have a ATI mobility radeon x300. Do we know if that card works? No. Why? Because it is blacklisted. In reality, this card *had* problems with very initial versions of compiz and ati in ubuntu (feisty?), but since Gutsy, ati drivers and compiz works very well, and it is far more stable than fglrx which is currently the worst graphic driver that I know. Now we're in Hardy and soon intrepid. We're far away from ati and compiz versions shipped in feisty. I think that massive blacklisting is a short term workaround, but it have a long term negative impact and it is not a valuable solution. I might be wrong about the real quantity of ATI cards which really have problems, but it looks to me that only some specific cards really have problems (like Xpress 200, bug #197135). Having compiz disabled by default for ATI cards except the special ones which are confirmed to have serious problems would sound correct to me, but not a black list which prevent compiz to be enabled on all ATI cards for people who wants to try it. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu) Status: Won't Fix = Confirmed -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
It appears that all started with a problem on a Xpress 200 card (bug #197135), an IGP chipset usually found on laptop. The blacklist however is blocking all ati cards on laptops even that ones that are not IGP chips and are very similar to the desktop version (e.g., my RV530 which is available both on desktop and laptop with reduced frequency is working fine in intrepid). Latest xorg and mesa 7.1 ati driver should also have fixed the problems with the Xpress200 (AKA RS480) cards: http://airlied.livejournal.com/59351.html there is even a repository with a backported mesa 7.0 to use on 8.04 with these fixes: https://launchpad.net/~stikonas/+archive So, I agree to remove the whole blacklist for intrepid and eventually add blacklist on some pci id if some problem will be found. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
I think the ATI blacklisting should be removed for intrepid, since intrepid has a lot of ati-related fixes done now that AMD has released documentation. This bug should probably reopened and targeted to intrepid, since it's valid and only depends on the development of the drivers instead of being won't fix. Intrepid now has xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.9.0 and Mesa 7.1, which both have huge amount of fixes. There probably will be even newer ati release than 6.9.0 before intrepid. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
All ati cards on laptops are blocked. Are we gonna make a whitelist for those laptops that work? Please point me to a valid bug report if any, since this bug report is Won't fix. ** Description changed: I have an ATI radeon IGP 340M (Chip ID 1002:4337) that works really nice with the open source ati driver and compiz ALWAYS worked very well since Feisty. According to a problem on some ati cards as reported in Bug #197135, open source ati driver is going to be blacklisted for compiz in Hardy (on laptops). My card is not supported by fglrx (5 years old card) so I won't be able to use compiz by default in Hardy. To sum up, this card need to be whitelisted in order to use compiz by default in Hardy, as it always did before. lspci -vn attached. [WORK-AROUND] Add SKIP_CHECKS=yes to either /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager or ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager [Summary of what's already been reported -- please update if your ati works] 1002:3154 1002:4336 Paul Roberts/shemgp: Radeon Mobility U1 1002:4337 Jarvis/Sergio Zanchetta: Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M 1002:4c57 Chad Bernier/others: M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] 1002:4c66 Thomas Wolfe:Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP) Aaron Bentley:ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02) Timo Jyrinki: Radeon RV25 [Radeon Mobility 9000] 1002:4e50 Miguel Martinez/others: RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] Tomas Nilsson:M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] Matti Airas: Mobility Radeon 9600 1002:4e56 fuoco: M11 NV [FireGL Mobility T2e] 1002:5460 Vladimir Dobriakov + 1002:5653 Tormod Volden:ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE) 1002:5835 dienarr:RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP] -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
In a pc, of a my fiend compiz was impossible to enable. ATI Technologies Inc RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP] After SKIP_CHECKS=yes with ati driver Compiz run perfect. I think the blacklist must be done with more attention and tests -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
I've noticed the same problem with [Radeon Mobility 7500] [1002:4c57], compiz doesn't work by default but after setting SKIP_CHECKS=yes it works without any hardware specific issues. That 036_blacklist_ati_on_laptop.patch has introduced a bad regression :-( It would be also very useful if somebody with the card ATI Radeon Xpress 200M (PCI ID 1002:5955) - which was the reason for the patch in first place - could test with the newest driver and possible with EXA (as kostas suggested). cheers -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Well, same problem with ATI Mobility Radeon 7500. The funny thing is that I've been using it without problems since Edgy. Actually I decided to switch to Ubuntu because it worked without a lot of effort here. I could easily find the cause and the workaround, compiz is working quite well now, but I thing it can be quite frustrating for an unexperienced user, mostly considering it worked just fine before. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
switching from XAA to EXA solved my problems with an ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (RV410 - M26). I don't get any freezes with Compiz enabled any more even if I try to run more 3d Applications simultaneously. I have tested it for about 3 weeks before I post here and I had no freezes at all. For my card the radeon driver works very very nice with EXA and Compiz enabled. I would propose to whitelist this card if there is a possibility to set EXA mod in xorg.conf as default. Option AccelMethod EXA -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
I had the same issue with an ATI Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] until I updated. Now it works almost perfect. This is what I've updated: capplets-data (1:2.22.1-0ubuntu4) to 1:2.22.1-0ubuntu4.1 gnome-control-center (1:2.22.1-0ubuntu4) to 1:2.22.1-0ubuntu4.1 gnome-system-monitor (2.22.0-1ubuntu3) to 2.22.1-0ubuntu1 jockey-common (0.3.3-0ubuntu7) to 0.3.3-0ubuntu8 jockey-gtk (0.3.3-0ubuntu7) to 0.3.3-0ubuntu8 libgnome-window-settings1 (1:2.22.1-0ubuntu4) to 1:2.22.1-0ubuntu4.1 libnautilus-extension1 (1:2.22.2-0ubuntu4) to 1:2.22.2-0ubuntu5 nautilus (1:2.22.2-0ubuntu4) to 1:2.22.2-0ubuntu5 nautilus-data (1:2.22.2-0ubuntu4) to 1:2.22.2-0ubuntu5 sudo (1.6.9p10-1ubuntu3) to 1.6.9p10-1ubuntu3.1 and apport (0.108) to 0.108.1 apport-gtk (0.108) to 0.108.1 gtk2-engines-pixbuf (2.12.9-3ubuntu2) to 2.12.9-3ubuntu3 gvfs (0.2.3-0ubuntu4) to 0.2.3-0ubuntu5 gvfs-backends (0.2.3-0ubuntu4) to 0.2.3-0ubuntu5 gvfs-fuse (0.2.3-0ubuntu4) to 0.2.3-0ubuntu5 hal (0.5.11~rc2-1ubuntu7) to 0.5.11~rc2-1ubuntu8 libcamel1.2-11 (2.22.1-0ubuntu2) to 2.22.1-0ubuntu2.1 libebook1.2-9 (2.22.1-0ubuntu2) to 2.22.1-0ubuntu2.1 libecal1.2-7 (2.22.1-0ubuntu2) to 2.22.1-0ubuntu2.1 libedata-book1.2-2 (2.22.1-0ubuntu2) to 2.22.1-0ubuntu2.1 libedata-cal1.2-6 (2.22.1-0ubuntu2) to 2.22.1-0ubuntu2.1 libedataserver1.2-9 (2.22.1-0ubuntu2) to 2.22.1-0ubuntu2.1 libedataserverui1.2-8 (2.22.1-0ubuntu2) to 2.22.1-0ubuntu2.1 libegroupwise1.2-13 (2.22.1-0ubuntu2) to 2.22.1-0ubuntu2.1 libexchange-storage1.2-3 (2.22.1-0ubuntu2) to 2.22.1-0ubuntu2.1 libgdata-google1.2-1 (2.22.1-0ubuntu2) to 2.22.1-0ubuntu2.1 libgdata1.2-1 (2.22.1-0ubuntu2) to 2.22.1-0ubuntu2.1 libgtk2.0-0 (2.12.9-3ubuntu2) to 2.12.9-3ubuntu3 libgtk2.0-bin (2.12.9-3ubuntu2) to 2.12.9-3ubuntu3 libgtk2.0-common (2.12.9-3ubuntu2) to 2.12.9-3ubuntu3 libgvfscommon0 (0.2.3-0ubuntu4) to 0.2.3-0ubuntu5 libhal-storage1 (0.5.11~rc2-1ubuntu7) to 0.5.11~rc2-1ubuntu8 libhal1 (0.5.11~rc2-1ubuntu7) to 0.5.11~rc2-1ubuntu8 python-apport (0.108) to 0.108.1 python-problem-report (0.108) to 0.108.1 It's still now working as good as on Gutsy, but it's very usable. Great work!! -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 011e Flags: bus master, VGA palette snoop, stepping, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 Memory at e800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] I/O ports at c000 [size=256] Memory at fcff (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] [virtual] Expansion ROM at fc00 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 ** Attachment added: lspcivn http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14153946/lspcivn -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Hi All! So that's why compiz does not work on Hardy, while with Gutsy i had _no_ _problems_ _at_ _all_!!! I have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9100 IGP (RS300M) on my 5-years-old Acer laptop. lspci: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP] and according to glxinfo, i have direct rendering (using the open source ati driver): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, ... Note that in the last line it has GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, while when I try ~$ compiz.real --replace --indirect-rendering it says: compiz.real (core) - Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing So is this because of the blacklist? (compiz 0.7.4, packed with Hardy) Cheers, Peter -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Weird, because according to glxinfo I have this extension. Just see above... Cheers, Peter -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
No, that error means something is wrong with your driver and it is not properly supporting GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap. It has nothing to do with the blacklist. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
That means the server supports it. You also need the driver to support it and the two to agree on how they support it. Basically, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap should show up 3 times in glxinfo. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
lspci | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M9+ 5C61 [Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP)] (rev 01) After I added SKIP_CHECKS=yes to the compiz config, compiz began to work fine. so ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP) should be whitelisted. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Hi! Card: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] This card works fine under Gutsy (i386), compiz works great. I'm running Hardy(amd64), and it doesn't work anymore. I haven't tried modifying the config files. The windows become flickery when I turn on Desktop effects. Firefox is specially bad. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
I also have the Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] video card as a part of my Dell Inspiron 5100 which has always worked so long as xorg.conf was setup correctly. If my understanding is correct, Ubuntu is disabling compiz on ATI cards using the OPEN SOURCE driver The OPEN SOURCE driver which by the way WORKS, and the PROPRIETARY one doesn't (thanks to some really asinine back room OEM deals ATI made awhile back) and Ubuntu disables **working** video cards using an **open source** driver?? Okay what just happened here, I'm feeling a bit dizzy because this is definitely **NOT** the way I thought things worked... --bornagainpenguin PS: If my understanding is incorrect, I apologize now, but really what am I supposed to think when it appears my WORKING video card is being blacklisted because wait for it. it's using an open source driver! ** Attachment added: lspci -vn.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13896457/lspci%20-vn.txt -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
yea, ubuntu's decision to blacklist radeon mobilities and their decision to not support fake raid 5, has really been causing me to doubt my choice of ubuntu. I might try something else . On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:13 AM, David Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also have the Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] video card as a part of my Dell Inspiron 5100 which has always worked so long as xorg.conf was setup correctly. If my understanding is correct, Ubuntu is disabling compiz on ATI cards using the OPEN SOURCE driver The OPEN SOURCE driver which by the way WORKS, and the PROPRIETARY one doesn't (thanks to some really asinine back room OEM deals ATI made awhile back) and Ubuntu disables **working** video cards using an **open source** driver?? Okay what just happened here, I'm feeling a bit dizzy because this is definitely **NOT** the way I thought things worked... --bornagainpenguin PS: If my understanding is incorrect, I apologize now, but really what am I supposed to think when it appears my WORKING video card is being blacklisted because wait for it. it's using an open source driver! ** Attachment added: lspci -vn.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13896457/lspci%20-vn.txt -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. ** Attachment added: unnamed http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13902053/unnamed -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Hey Please Whitelist the follow : (comes with Evo N610c Compaq Laptop) Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] which worked like a charm up until now -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Hey, Travis. What happened? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4514954postcount=25 -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
ENOTIME and there having been problems with r200 too. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Why not just do a check on the model number? Seeing as the lockups are caused on hardware R300 and newer, we can at least whitelist R200's, as that driver hasn't changed significantly since it was written under NDA-released specs (exa and xrandr1.3 being the biggest recent ones. i believe modesetting and ttm are on the way) Meanwhile, R300 is being improved all the time, especially with AMD releasing the specs for it. Moreover, I puzzled at how this can be called an LTS release if you can't take in an updated video driver that would stabilize the system and move them away from proprietary drivers. I can understand not taking in new code because of instability, but all upstream driver releases to date have been relatively safe drop-ins to the current distribution version (only had one suspend problem). At the very least, it has to make it into backports. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
** Description changed: I have an ATI radeon IGP 340M (Chip ID 1002:4337) that works really nice with the open source ati driver and compiz ALWAYS worked very well since Feisty. According to a problem on some ati cards as reported in Bug #197135, open source ati driver is going to be blacklisted for compiz in Hardy (on laptops). My card is not supported by fglrx (5 years old card) so I won't be able to use compiz by default in Hardy. To sum up, this card need to be whitelisted in order to use compiz by default in Hardy, as it always did before. lspci -vn attached. [WORK-AROUND] Add SKIP_CHECKS=yes to either /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager or ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager [Summary of what's already been reported -- please update if your ati works] 1002:3154 1002:4336 Paul Roberts/shemgp: Radeon Mobility U1 - 1002:4337 Jarvis: Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M + 1002:4337 Jarvis/Sergio Zanchetta: Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M 1002:4c57 Chad Bernier/others: M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] 1002:4c66 Thomas Wolfe:Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP) Aaron Bentley:ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02) Timo Jyrinki: Radeon RV25 [Radeon Mobility 9000] 1002:4e50 Miguel Martinez/others: RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] Tomas Nilsson:M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] Matti Airas: Mobility Radeon 9600 1002:4e56 fuoco: M11 NV [FireGL Mobility T2e] 1002:5460 Vladimir Dobriakov 1002:5835 dienarr:RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP] -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu) Status: Won't Fix = In Progress -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Won't Fix -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Ok, I read all your comments. Now. This bug was firstly intended to be fixed for older cards that aren't supported by fglrx or xgl and then they haven't other way to use compiz. But then people with newer cards start adding pci id telling that ati driver was better that fglrx etc. (but also have freezes with ati driver) Please report the problem to the origin, whitelist firstly older cards that haven't opened freeze bugs and have always worked nice with compiz. It is safe to do this. Then, if in the future you can add other cards (newer) known to work well with compiz or with bug that has been fixed meanwhile, more better. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
oh i thought it wasn't enabled by default. I installed hardy a long time ago, and have been using ubuntu since dapper beta. I thought you had to go enable desktop effects. maybe I just had to go form minimal to custom or something. How many clueless people really run linux anyways? I know it is getting easier and easier every year. But bussiness and schools would have a system administrator to take care of these things. People who buy their computers with linux pre-installed would be taken care of by the manufacturer. People who custom build computers from scratch could figure it out too. People who have their computers fixed by a family member or something would have them to take care of it. So? How many people buy a computer with windows, are responsible for maintaining it themselves, figure out that linux even exists, decides to install it, and still can't diagnose simple issues? I think that most computer clueless people don't even know what linux or ubuntu is. yea i added the skip checks thing, and it's all fixed by now. but the reason i use ubuntu is because I don't want to mess with my system all the time. I can figure out how to compile things from source, and all that jibber jabber. I do sometimes. But I don't want to have to. I shouldn't have to use such a workaround because some computer illiterate people try to run linux on bad hardware. I buy computers specifically with linux in mind and try to only buy linux compatible hardware. that is one of the main reasons i bought a thinkpad. I am using a beta version so i can put up with this stuff. I find it a little bit fun. but I don't like the idea of someone deliberately crippling my computer. again this isn't about me, but how many people are almost like me? the people who could fix the issue but don't want to. I dunno, you guys do what you think is best. I might quit ubuntu when i get a new computer because it bores me. I like that i can usually get help and usually find things in debs. I like how it works pretty well most of the time. But i don't like it when i need something new and have to jump through all kinds of hoops to get it. i think i want to find something gentoo based. ubuntu is great for work computers, but no fun for personal computers. my next computer will be powerful enough to have both. I should get two new computers. some things only a desktop can do, and other things only a laptop. both of mine are aging. but there is the issue of low income and high debt. sorry for all that. I'm just bored. I know I am not the person this is aimed at. First of all, it will be aimed at people who don't run alpha/beta OSs. I always find myself in between the cracks though. its like with cell phones. use them too much and prepaid is just as expensive as contract. but you don't use the whole contract. They screw you either way. you can delete this message if you want. I just don't get any attention anymore. I ended up with no friends for a whole year and won't be making any new ones until september probably. I tried being not enrolled in school for a year. I found the real world to be terrible, am living with parents, and have no friends because none of them live near here. I found little work i was willing to do, which ended up working for a college partime, but that way doesn't make you friends. I always do things a weird way and it has downsides. hopefully the ATI bug will be fixed in Hardy+1. anyone who would use only LTS releases does not need compiz. thank you everyone. the ubuntu community is awesome. On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Bryce Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I showed bug 195051 to Alex and chatted with him a bit. A lot of -ati's internals were written prior to having access to register documentation, so there's a lot of educated guesses in -ati that proved to be wrong once the docs were in hand, and lead to random crashes like this, and Alex believes this is the case with this bug. He did not have a workaround to suggest, and confirmed Travis' finding that the issue is not going to be limited to a specific chipset so pci id checks wouldn't be a reliable workaround. He has plans to go through and fix up all these mappings correctly, within the next 3-6 months. Unfortunately that rules out a 8.04.1 fix (and even if it could be achieved in that timeframe, the size of the rework would probably be beyond our bug-risk threshhold.) Meanwhile, I'll make sure alex remains aware of the bug, and try to improve the reports upstream so it will be fixed for Intrepid. The work can be tracked at bug 195051 here, and at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15096 upstream (unless someone knows of a more appropriate upstream bug?) So, I'm resetting this to WONTFIX. ** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Won't Fix -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
** Description changed: I have an ATI radeon IGP 340M (Chip ID 1002:4337) that works really nice with the open source ati driver and compiz ALWAYS worked very well since Feisty. According to a problem on some ati cards as reported in Bug #197135, open source ati driver is going to be blacklisted for compiz in Hardy (on laptops). My card is not supported by fglrx (5 years old card) so I won't be able to use compiz by default in Hardy. To sum up, this card need to be whitelisted in order to use compiz by default in Hardy, as it always did before. lspci -vn attached. - [Summary of what's already been reported] + [Summary of what's already been reported -- please update if your ati works] + 1002:3154 + 1002:4336 Paul Roberts/shemgp: Radeon Mobility U1 + 1002:4337 Jarvis: Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M + 1002:4c57 Chad Bernier/others: M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] + 1002:4c66 Thomas Wolfe:Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP) +Aaron Bentley:ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02) +Timo Jyrinki: Radeon RV25 [Radeon Mobility 9000] + 1002:4e50 Miguel Martinez/others: RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] +Tomas Nilsson:M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] +Matti Airas: Mobility Radeon 9600 1002:4e56 fuoco: M11 NV [FireGL Mobility T2e] - 1002:4c66 Thomas Wolfe:Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP) - 1002:4c66 Aaron Bentley:ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02) - 1002:4c57 Chad Bernier: M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] - 1002:4e50 Tino Meinen/Kees Cook: RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] + 1002:5460 Vladimir Dobriakov 1002:5835 dienarr:RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP] - 1002:4c57 Nds: M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] - Horza: M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] - 1002:4c66 Timo Jyrinki: Radeon RV25 [Radeon Mobility 9000] - 1002:4e50 Miguel Martinez: RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] - Tomas Nilsson: M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] - 1002:4c57 Tim Jones: M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] - 1002:4337 Jarvis: Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M - 1002:4336 Paul Roberts: Radeon Mobility U1 - 1002:4e50 Matti Airas: Mobility Radeon 9600 - Denis Lemire: RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] - 1002:4336 shemgp: Radeon Mobility U1 -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
It seems that PCI ids are not an indicator of if compiz will work correctly or not. (For example, some people with 1002:4e50 have it working fine, others see hangs.) ** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu) Assignee: Michael Vogt (mvo) = Travis Watkins (amaranth) Status: In Progress = Won't Fix Target: ubuntu-8.04 = None ** Description changed: I have an ATI radeon IGP 340M (Chip ID 1002:4337) that works really nice with the open source ati driver and compiz ALWAYS worked very well since Feisty. According to a problem on some ati cards as reported in Bug #197135, open source ati driver is going to be blacklisted for compiz in Hardy (on laptops). My card is not supported by fglrx (5 years old card) so I won't be able to use compiz by default in Hardy. To sum up, this card need to be whitelisted in order to use compiz by default in Hardy, as it always did before. lspci -vn attached. + [WORK-AROUND] + Add SKIP_CHECKS=yes to either /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager or ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager [Summary of what's already been reported -- please update if your ati works] 1002:3154 1002:4336 Paul Roberts/shemgp: Radeon Mobility U1 1002:4337 Jarvis: Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M 1002:4c57 Chad Bernier/others: M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] 1002:4c66 Thomas Wolfe:Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP) Aaron Bentley:ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02) Timo Jyrinki: Radeon RV25 [Radeon Mobility 9000] 1002:4e50 Miguel Martinez/others: RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] Tomas Nilsson:M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] Matti Airas: Mobility Radeon 9600 1002:4e56 fuoco: M11 NV [FireGL Mobility T2e] 1002:5460 Vladimir Dobriakov 1002:5835 dienarr:RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP] -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
BTW, above comment is based on IRC discussions with Amaranth, who feels the blacklist is the correct fix. I still think that blacklisting open drivers is a mistake. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Why do they need to be blacklisted in the first place? isn't compiz turned off by default? If people turn it on, and run into problems, they can just turn it back off. Why is it that difficult? If there are problems with the liveCD, make an option to boot it with compiz turned off. It ain't that hard. I remember when i needed special kernel parameters to get it to recognize my hardware, but I figured it out. It's this thing called google. On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Kees Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, above comment is based on IRC discussions with Amaranth, who feels the blacklist is the correct fix. I still think that blacklisting open drivers is a mistake. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. ** Attachment added: unnamed http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13528708/unnamed -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Your statements tell me you are not the user this is targeted to as you know how to work around such problems. Compiz is enabled by default and people won't even know what it is that is causing these crashes and lockups. Since you know how to do such things you should be fine with using the SKIP_CHECKS=yes workaround. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kees Cook wrote: BTW, above comment is based on IRC discussions with Amaranth, who feels the blacklist is the correct fix. I still think that blacklisting open drivers is a mistake. I agree with you, and find this situation completely infuriating. If some ATI models are broken, just those models should be blacklisted. Aaron -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIBmdI0F+nu1YWqI0RAglUAJ9Z06eTv62+kXjPiFkAKaaeuKLxpwCfYL3R j3baHsUJLjnUi/EscNICegk= =NMuV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
I understand Travis' justification about making compiz not on by default for ATI due to -ati bugs, although like Kees I also wonder if this is too overly restrictive. Whitelisting seemed like an acceptable compromise though. Can someone explain why this approach has not yet been taken? For example, what specific reasons are there for not taking Andrea's patch in comment #45? I'd really like to find a solution other than leaving 100% of ati cards blacklisted from compiz, and I'm removing the Won'tFix for now. Even if it is not solved by 8.04.0 (which I think should be the goal), we need a better solution by 8.04.1 at the latest. If there are specific -ati bugs that are the primary driver for the blacklist, please identify them and I will place my top focus on getting those solved in coming weeks. ** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu) Status: Won't Fix = In Progress -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
It's not true that 100% of ati cards are blacklisted from Compiz, only laptops using the open ati driver are affected. The problem with whitelisting PCI IDs is that it seems to be total random what cards are affected. After all, it's a bug with the ati-driver, so in my opinion fixing that one should be more important. Can't someone in charge talk to the people at fd.o about this? Sadly there has been zero reaction to http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15096 so far, bringing more attention to this problem would be more effective than silently working around it. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
As Kees mentioned in comment 69 pci ids are not a reliable method for determining what cards work and what ones don't. Some people with the Mobility 9600 have problems, some don't, same pci id. Same with the X300, X600, and X700 Mobility cards. The only effective way to handle this is the current situation. Well, or fix the bugs causing the problems, bug 195051 seems to be the main one. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Thanks for the added explanation. I showed 15096 to Alex. Unfortunately that bug lacks details/evidence, which probably explains the lack of response. I'll see what he thinks of 195051; it includes good backtraces and other information that may be helpful. -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 201330] Re: [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting
Okay, I showed bug 195051 to Alex and chatted with him a bit. A lot of -ati's internals were written prior to having access to register documentation, so there's a lot of educated guesses in -ati that proved to be wrong once the docs were in hand, and lead to random crashes like this, and Alex believes this is the case with this bug. He did not have a workaround to suggest, and confirmed Travis' finding that the issue is not going to be limited to a specific chipset so pci id checks wouldn't be a reliable workaround. He has plans to go through and fix up all these mappings correctly, within the next 3-6 months. Unfortunately that rules out a 8.04.1 fix (and even if it could be achieved in that timeframe, the size of the rework would probably be beyond our bug-risk threshhold.) Meanwhile, I'll make sure alex remains aware of the bug, and try to improve the reports upstream so it will be fixed for Intrepid. The work can be tracked at bug 195051 here, and at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15096 upstream (unless someone knows of a more appropriate upstream bug?) So, I'm resetting this to WONTFIX. ** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Won't Fix -- [regression] need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201330 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
