[Bug 20999] Re: Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present
Wouldn't it be possible to prompt the user from within the preinst script for an action, i.e.: 1. Recheck the /var/lib/mailman/qfiles directory. (In this case, the test would be repeated again; the idea being that while waiting for this option, the user could unshunt the messages on another terminal. If shunted messages still exist, return to the prompt. If not, proceed.) 2. Delete shunted messages, then proceed. (This would simply delete the files directly.) 3. Abort. (The current behaviour, fails the upgrade.) This way, the upgrade need not fail unless the user wants to take more time to examine them (by choosing option #3). As the package hasn't yet been installed when the preinst script is being run, it should still be possible for the user to handle the problem using the old MailMan version. -- Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/20999 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 20999] Re: Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present
* Tomi Junnila | Note that if MailMan fails the upgrade (so that it can be retried), this | will fail upgrading from edgy to feisty. Yes. | The presence of shunted messages should not fail the upgrade, a better | option would be to hold until the user can manually handle the | situation, then continue directly. That is not possible to do based on how dpkg works. The reason for failing is you can then fix the problem by unshunting or deleting the messages. Later, you might well not be able to unshunt them, since the on-disk format is not stable. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/20999 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 20999] Re: Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present
The notice now tells a bit more what the problem is and how to fix it, so marking as fix released. As Thijs writes, it requires manual intervention to fix this. ** Changed in: mailman (Ubuntu) Status: Needs Info = Fix Released -- Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/20999 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 20999] Re: Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present
Note that if MailMan fails the upgrade (so that it can be retried), this will fail upgrading from edgy to feisty. The presence of shunted messages should not fail the upgrade, a better option would be to hold until the user can manually handle the situation, then continue directly. -- Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/20999 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 20999] Re: Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present
If I understand it correctly but is that the message does not tell you how to stop new messages coming into Mailman. The message included as a debconf note actually details step by step how to deal with this. Specifically about stopping new messages from entering mailman it says: Stop new messages from coming in (at the MTA level).. That's about as specific as the message can get, because there's endless ways of configuring mailman with different MTA's. Stopping your MTA is one possible solution. I don't think this needs any change. -- Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/20999 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 20999] Re: Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present
** Changed in: mailman (Ubuntu) Assignee: Tollef Fog Heen = (unassigned) -- Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present https://launchpad.net/bugs/20999 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 20999] Re: Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present
Is there a status on this bug? Thanks. ** Changed in: mailman (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed = Needs Info -- Upgrades fail with a message about Old queue files present https://launchpad.net/bugs/20999 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
