[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
nikolay, thanks for that analysis. I think you're right, this bug is not actually in Flash and it has other unpleasant effects. ** Also affects: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Summary changed: - Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen + Pressing volume/brightness key unfocuses window (e.g. makes Flash exit full screen) -- Pressing volume/brightness key unfocuses window (e.g. makes Flash exit full screen) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: nikolay, thanks for that analysis. I think you're right, this bug is not actually in Flash and it has other unpleasant effects. I think that is half correct. While making the notifications not unfocus the focused window would work around this specific case, it is still a bug in Flash that unfocusing the window exists fullscreen. Use multiple monitors and you will see that a fullscreen window will commonly not have focus. For example, I can fullscreen any application or watch fullscreen videos in totem/vlc/banshee/hulu desktop (which is flash, interestingly enough) on one monitor while working on another, and the flash plugin is the only application I know of which fails at this use case. So, I agree that it would be GREAT to fix the focus issue on our side and resolve the other unpleasant effects you mention, but there is no reason for Flash to expect focus to remain in fullscreen either (no other application does), so it is also a bug in Flash. It seems like the bug should be fixed on both sides, because neither should be behaving the way it is it seems, and both will have good consequences besides this bug :) -- Pressing volume/brightness key changes window focus (e.g. makes Flash exit full screen) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
nikolay botev It isn't Gnome-specific, as it occurs with all other non- gnome browsers I have tried (Konqueror, Arora, rekonq). -- Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
Thank you for bringing this bug to our attention. However, a paper cut should be a small usability issue, in the default Ubuntu install, that affects many people and is quick and easy to fix. So this bug can't be addressed as part of this project. - This is not a problem which has an easy or quick fix. Hence not a papercut. For further information about papercuts criteria, please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut. Don't worry though, this bug has been marked as Invalid only in the papercuts project. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New = Invalid -- Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
Havoc Pennington: Not exactly correct. IMO this is a UI bug (not Adobe specific). Changing the volume using keyboard shortcuts in Ubuntu (and other Linux distros) takes the focus out of the active gnome widget temporarily. This can cause annoying flicker if the currently focused widget displays some form of focus rectangle or other visual indication that the widget has the focus. This is the reason for example for the behavior described by bladedot in comment #17. In Firefox, when the keyboard focus is on a hyperlink, the status bar displays the target address of the link. When the focus leaves a hyperlink, Firefox reverts the status bar text to some other value (in this case Done). This is why, when changing the volume the status bar in Firefox changes temporarily. This same effect of visual flicker can be observed in any GNOME application under different circumstances. I have no idea what the reason for stealing keyboard focus when reacting to shortcut keys and/or displaying notifications is - but from the user's perspective there is no good reason to do this, and many reasons not to do this - the best one being the Adobe Flash player fullscreen behavior, which apparently exits fullscreen mode on losing keyboard focus. I have no idea whether this is GNOME-specific of Ubuntu-specific, but I know it needs to be fixed, and it would be much easier to get this fixed in an open source project - GNOME or Ubuntu, than trying to get Adobe the change their closed-source Flash player, for a very tiny part of their audience. Thanks. -- Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
I believe it's been reopened, but I'm not sure about that because their bug tracker is a little funky. It's set to Internal Review, which probably means that they have some napkin with a note scribbled on it sitting on the floor of an office somewhere. Wouldn't the update be included in all releases since Flash is a huge security vulnerability? -- Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
I have added this to the Hundred Paper Cuts as this is a very annoying issue, and not caused by adobe... http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-902#action_247914 I realise this is probably too late for Karmic, but would be nice for Lucid. ** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
The Adobe bug was wrongly closed, this is caused by Adobe. They need to reopen their bug. I added a comment to it explaining. Exiting fullscreen on alt+tab is fine if that's the policy (I don't know if it is or not), but exiting on volume keys is not fine. They are implementing the fullscreen-exiting incorrectly such that they leave fullscreen on volume keys. I outlined for them alternative ways to implement it that will not have this side effect. -- Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
** Changed in: flashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
bladebot: My swiftfox 3.5.3 does not flash when I adjust the volume while hovering over a link. -- Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
I can confirm -- Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
Perhaps it is not flashplugin-nonfree. 1. In Firefox (Xubuntu 9.04 amd64), if my cursor is over a link and I press volume up/down/mute on my keyboard, the Firefox status bar flashes between the link and Done. 2. If I select the text in this text field and change the volume, the selected text flashes. 3. If I go to Services, unlock and select a service, then change the volume, the selected service flickers. This leads me to believe this is not a problem with Flash, which exits full screen when it no longer has focus. If someone could point me to what source code handles keyboard shortcuts, perhaps I can find or even fix the problem. -- Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
I just read the comments upstream; Havoc Pennington figured this out a long time ago (04/18/09). Is it possible to provide our own workaround until Adobe fixes this? -- Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
OS: Ubuntu 9.04 Browser: FF 3 Hardware: Thinkpad T61p Same problem if I hit the volume buttons and flash full screen exits back to regular size. -- Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 224475] Re: Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen
** Summary changed: - Change Sound volume with special keys, flash video in full screen gets out of it + Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen -- Changing sound volume with special keys causes Flash to exit full screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/224475 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
