[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-10-13 Thread kelvie
~ $ cat /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal
temperatures:   41 38 38 35 23 -128 23 -128 35 34 -128 -128 -128 -128 -128 -128
~ $ cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan
status: enabled
speed:  3574
level:  auto

I get something similar.. all of my temperatures seem OK, and the
computer is mostly idle (load was at 0.01 0.06 0.07 when I did this).

The fan doesn't turn off after it starts.

~ $ uname -a
Linux mykons 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Fri Oct 10 03:55:24 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

on an X61 tablet -- this is on Intrepid Beta.

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-07-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a T42, running Hardy Heron, and my fan doesn't go  ~1900 rpm.
When trying to rip a DVD using handbrake (for person backup of course),
the computer shuts down stating that the CPU temp has gone too high.  I
am unable to increase the fan speed using the command to change the
setting in /proc/acpi/ibm/fan.  It changes the setting, just not the fan
speed... I can stop the fan and start it, it just doesn't seem to go
fast enough.

Linux chem-smith-nb2 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Jun 18 14:43:41 UTC
2008 i686 GNU/Linux

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-07-09 Thread Mike Hix
I guess I just didn't understand the specs.

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-07-04 Thread Andrew
 Anyone else have temperature data from an X61 (tablet or otherwise)?
Ubuntu, Windows, or otherwise?

Here's data from an X60. From what I can tell, everything here looks the
way it should.

** Attachment added: x60_cpu-fan.png
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15833012/x60_cpu-fan.png

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-07-04 Thread Mike Hix
It seems that the CPU is intended to operate in the ranges we're
observing. It simply seems really hot, not to mention about 90% of spec
- not a lot of room for changes in the ambient temperature...

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-06-21 Thread Tor Håkon Haugen
I've just done the test Mike Hix wrote about on both a ThinkPad x31 and
a ThinkPad x61 (yes, I love the Thinkpads).

On my X61 the fan will be steady somewhere around 3200/3300 rpm. That is
even if it's idle or if I'm doing the sha1sum test.

The X31, on the other hand, it's a lot more interesting since the fan is OFF 
when idle. When I ran the sha1sum test it didn't start before the temperature 
reached 68 degrees celcius, and then only at 3400 rpm. This was however 
enough to keep the temperature steady at 70 degrees.
When I stopped the test the fan turned itself off when passing 53 degrees 
celcius. Silence is golden.

So my question is, why does the fan in the X61 keep spinning at ~3300 even when 
the machine is staying idle?
I must say I prefer the way the X31 handles this problem.

Hope this input is of any value.
Btw, I'm running 32bit Ubuntu on both machines. X61 is running on Hardy and the 
X31 is using Gutsy. I can upgrade the X31 and do the same test again if 
necessary. Heck, I can even reinstall it. :-)

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-06-09 Thread jajo
i have a thinkpad x61s with the same problem as the bug report starter. fan 
speed is after booting constant at ~3800. if i stress the laptop it gets really 
hot!
is there a temporary solution to get the automatic fan control working? when 
will it be fixed?

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-06-03 Thread Gerson fserve Barreiros
on my Acer 5315, ubuntu 64 doest not start fan, so i got very HOT and
shutdown

i'm using 32bits ubuntu and it's ok now.

there is a way to manual control fan?

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-06-02 Thread oscar
I thought that my ThinkPad X60s was getting warm.  I installed the
sensors applet, and it showed that the temperature was creeping into the
80's, with the fan steady somewhere around 3300 rpm (or was it 3600?).
Seems rather high/dangerous.  I guess it is back to Windows until this
is fixed, if ever   :-(

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-06-02 Thread Mike Hix
Oscar - Does the CPU fan behave differently for you when you're running
Windows?

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-05-31 Thread Mike Hix
I might (be | have been) a bit paranoid.

Based on information from Intel (listed below) I've found that for my
particular processor (T7300 2Ghz) that the specs might be a bit more
forgiving than I originally thought.

A heat sink compatible with my processor has to be able to dissipate 35W
of heat - Intel calls this number Thermal Design Power. The Thermal
Specification for the processor is 100 C. Thus, when my CPU is crankin'
out 35W of heat, the temperature measured at the joint between the CPU
and the heat sink should be no more than 100C.

From Intel.com:

Thermal Design Power:

Thermal Design Power:  (Also referred to as Thermal Guideline) The
maximum amount of heat which a thermal solution must be able to
dissipate from the processor so that the processor will operate under
normal operating conditions.

Thermal Specification:

Thermal Specification:  The thermal specification shown is the maximum
case temperature at the maximum Thermal Design Power (TDP) value for
that processor. It is measured at the geometric center on the topside of
the processor integrated heat spreader. For processors without
integrated heat spreaders such as mobile processors, the thermal
specification is referred to as the junction temperature (Tj). The
maximum junction temperature is defined by an activation of the
processor Intel® Thermal Monitor. The Intel Thermal Monitor’s automatic
mode is used to indicate that the maximum TJ has been reached.

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-05-31 Thread Mike Hix
I've tested my system by starting two copies of 'yes | sha1sum' and
'watch acpi -V'.

After 30 minutes, both cores' temperature never broke 86C. The system
was stable and responsive during the test.

Anyone else have temperature data from an X61 (tablet or otherwise)?
Ubuntu, Windows, or otherwise?

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-05-23 Thread Mike Hix
It's a different version of the fan hardware (X60 vs. T42p) and a
different arch (i686 vs x86_64). Kind of apples / oranges, no?

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-05-23 Thread lophiomys
You might be right. 
For my T42p the fan activity has reduced after the recent OS updates for Hardy.
The average idle temp has gone down from 42C to 37C after the OS updates 
and the fan activity has reduced to the levels experienced with Gutsy.

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-05-23 Thread Mike Hix
I'm more concerned about the fact that the system will overheat instead
of using the full capability of the fan.

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-05-23 Thread lophiomys
My last post was not quite correct.
The T42p system is cool but the fan is blowing cold air at 3600rpm (approx. 
level 4)
I just didn't hear the fan at the beginning.
Seems to be a similar problem, despite the different hardware.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# aticonfig --lsp
core/mem  [flags]
-
* 1: 111/111 MHz  [low voltage]
  2: 317/203 MHz  [default state]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
temperature: 36 C
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan
status: enabled
speed:  3658
level:  auto

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-05-11 Thread lophiomys
My subjective perception is, that Hardy causes more fan activity than Gutsy.
I have experienced this on 2x Thinkpad T42p 2373-KYG with 
Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron LTS installed.
Sorry, I momentarily dont have the time to investigate in depth.

uname -a
Linux T42p 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

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[Bug 224876] Re: Hardy does not control the CPU fan properly.

2008-04-30 Thread Mike Hix

** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14050628/Dependencies.txt

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