[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
** Changed in: kde-baseapps Status: New => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 Title: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-session/+bug/255342/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
** Changed in: kde-baseapps Status: Incomplete => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 Title: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-session/+bug/255342/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
Launchpad has imported 10 comments from the remote bug at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170817. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2008-09-10T20:41:21+00:00 Eduardo Durany Fernández wrote: Version:(using KDE 4.1.1) Installed from:Unspecified Stop gnome and kde 4 autostart mess Case one: Steps to reproduce: 1) Mark an entry in gnome-session to not autostart 2) Login in kde4 Expected behavior: Kde4 does not autostart that app Current behavior: Kde4 autostarts the app Case two: Steps to reproduce: 1) Mark an entry in kde to not autostart 2) Login in gnome Expected behavior: Gnome shows the app in gnome-session and does not autostart it Current behavior: Gnome does not show the app in gnome-session I would like to list every autostart entries in gnome and kde. Mark them to autostart only in gnome, only in kde or in both. Same bug in gnome: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551700 Related bugs: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548339 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163582 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/255342/comments/3 On 2008-09-10T23:41:29+00:00 Adamw-c wrote: Additional comments: KDE has a 'private' autostart directory, ~/.kde/Autostart . GNOME does not. The OnlyShowIn keyword can be used; in the context of autostart it will make the app only start in a particular DE. OnlyShowIn=KDE will make it only autostart in KDE, OnlyShowIn=GNOME will make it only autostart in GNOME. So all the bits are there for both KDE and GNOME to behave sensibly by default and to present a simple interface to configure this. IMHO, by default, when you set an app to autostart in either KDE or GNOME, it should be set to *only* autostart in that environment. I think that's the behavior most users expect. Extra links to reports of this issue: http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?p=548286 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/255342 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/255342/comments/7 On 2008-09-11T17:40:25+00:00 Eduardo Durany Fernández wrote: When Gnome disables an autostart entry, it adds the flag "X-GNOME- Autostart-enabled=false". Kde does not understand this flag. When Kde disables an autostart entry, it adds the flag "Hidden=true". The problem is that Gnome uses this flag to mark autostart entries deleted. From gnome-sessions source: /* Two possible cases: * a) We want to remove a system wide startup desktop file. *We can't do that, so we will create a user desktop file *with the hidden flag set. * b) We want to remove a startup desktop file that is both *system and user. So we have to mark it as hidden. */ I think Gnome and Kde hackers need to reach agreement here. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/255342/comments/9 On 2008-09-11T17:45:18+00:00 Adamw-c wrote: If what I wrote above is true - "OnlyShowIn=KDE will make it only autostart in KDE, OnlyShowIn=GNOME will make it only autostart in GNOME" - then the obvious solution is to use the OnlyShowIn key, which is a standard one, not an extension like X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/255342/comments/10 On 2008-09-11T18:42:43+00:00 Eduardo Durany Fernández wrote: Yes, but if you put "OnlyShowIn=kde" gnome will not list that entry. I would like to list every autostart entries in Gnome and Kde and to enable, disable or delete them. But maybe people would like another thing. I think "Hidden" should be used only to deleted entries so we need another flag such as "Autostart-enable" to enable/disable them. A similar problem occurs with menu entries. With Gnome i can enable or disable menu entries without delete them. I think Gnome uses "NoDisplay" flag to do this. Kde can not do this (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93689). What about an "Enable" flag to resolve both cases? Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/255342/comments/11 On 2008-09-12T01:49:38+00:00 volapyk wrote: I'm using OnlyShowIn=GNOME atm in Mandriva to solve this problem. It seems to be working perfectly. I support using the OnlyShowIn key, like Adam suggests. I don't need to have KDE autostart entries listed in Gnome. I'm not really sure I want to either. Any solution is fine with me though. As long as
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
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[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
** Changed in: kdebase Importance: Unknown = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 Title: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
** Changed in: gnome-session Status: Invalid = Unknown ** Changed in: gnome-session Importance: Unknown = Medium -- Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
** Changed in: gnome-session Status: New = Invalid -- Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
There should be an easy way to select in which sessions (managed by autostart compliant session managers) each program/service should be started. -- Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
Someone complained about the same thing in Mandriva: http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?p=548286#548286 Looks like an upstream issue. -- Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
OK, there's reports for this in both KDE and GNOME: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170817 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163582 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551700 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548339 I don't think INVALID is a good resolution. ** Also affects: kdebase via http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170817 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
** Changed in: kdebase Status: Unknown = New -- Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Almost Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
** Also affects: gnome-session via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548339 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Also affects: kdebase (Mandriva) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Almost Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
** Changed in: gnome-session Status: Unknown = New -- Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Almost Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
KDE will autostart programs added to sessions in Gnome. The files are located in ~./config/autostart like the OP mentions. It is possible to disable the entries in system settings/advanced/autostart in KDE4, BUT this will edit the files in ~./config/autostart and thereby remove the entries from Gnome sessions. So in short. I have the exact same problems. For more details see the first link posted by Adam Williamson. -- Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Almost Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
Also see advanced options in KDE's autostart configuration module. -- Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 255342] Re: Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine
I believe that KDE has its own Autostart directory (~/.kde/Autostart or ~/.kde4/Autostart). Try sym-linking the KDE stuff there. Hope that helps! ** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: None = kdebase ** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid ** bug changed to question: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+question/41534 -- Freedesktop's autostart makes (almost) impossible having both KDE4 and GNOME installed in the same machine https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
