[Bug 256025] Re: invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf
I've updated http://wiki.winehq.org/PreloaderPageZeroProblem to reflect the new workaround. -- invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/256025 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 256025] Re: invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf
Things are as they should be in Intrepid - /etc/sysctl.conf is now a bunch of (commented out) commands for overriding the defaults, and the system defaults are in names like /etc/sysctl.d/10-*.conf. This allows Wine to come after them by using just /etc/sysctl.d/wine.conf ** Changed in: procps (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Released -- invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/256025 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 256025] Re: invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf
I'm partially confused by this bug. I wound up here in the process of filing Bug #292470. It's my observation that in Intrepid final, procps sources /etc/sysctl.conf *first*, which means it is being overridden by /etc/sysctl.d. This is the behavior desired by the requester of this bug, but the bug is not marked Fixed. With that said, I agree with the latter posters here that sysctl.conf should be processed last, giving it the override, and that Ubuntu default configs should be moved to sysctl.d. I disagree with the initial request in this bug to make sysctl.d authoritative (Even though it currently is. Even though this bug is open and the README is wrong). -- invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/256025 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 256025] Re: invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf
Are you sure this is the best fix? The idea of package defaults overriding sysadmin-specified settings makes me nervous. -- invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/256025 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 256025] Re: invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf
Without this, there's no way to have package defaults override unmodified system defaults; the sysctl.d folder becomes essentially useless. Perhaps a more complete fix is to make it clear that manual settings should be done somewhere other than sysctl.conf when the same setting is modified by something in sysctl.d. A sysadmin using a file like /etc/sysctl.d/zzz.sysctl.conf would guarantee that his override comes after packages. A simple comment explaining this at the top of /etc/sysctl.conf might help here. -- invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/256025 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 256025] Re: invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 09:32:12AM -, Scott Ritchie wrote: Without this, there's no way to have package defaults override unmodified system defaults; the sysctl.d folder becomes essentially useless. Perhaps a more complete fix is to make it clear that manual settings should be done somewhere other than sysctl.conf when the same setting is modified by something in sysctl.d. A sysadmin using a file like /etc/sysctl.d/zzz.sysctl.conf would guarantee that his override comes after packages. A simple comment explaining this at the top of /etc/sysctl.conf might help here. Simpler would be to add Ubuntu defaults in /etc/sysctl.d/00-ubuntu.conf or similar instead of /etc/sysctl.conf. Then, this could be overrided in obvious ways both by system administrators (/etc/sysctl.conf) and by packages (/etc/sysctl.d). -- - mdz -- invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/256025 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 256025] Re: invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf
Good point. /etc/sysctl.conf should remain the standard thing to edit for overrides. That can be done after/at the same time as this patch though. Making a new file and copying the current contents of our default sysctl.conf to it should be fairly simple. All we need to do then is put some comments into sysctl.conf saying where the new default settings are and how to override them. Would you like to make the change or should I prepare another patch? -- invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/256025 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 256025] Re: invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:35:38AM -, Scott Ritchie wrote: Good point. /etc/sysctl.conf should remain the standard thing to edit for overrides. That can be done after/at the same time as this patch though. Making a new file and copying the current contents of our default sysctl.conf to it should be fairly simple. All we need to do then is put some comments into sysctl.conf saying where the new default settings are and how to override them. Would you like to make the change or should I prepare another patch? I can't work on this right now but am happy to review. You might also try Kees, since I believe he added the defaults originally. -- - mdz -- invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/256025 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 256025] Re: invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 01:11:33PM +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:35:38AM -, Scott Ritchie wrote: Good point. /etc/sysctl.conf should remain the standard thing to edit for overrides. That can be done after/at the same time as this patch though. Making a new file and copying the current contents of our default sysctl.conf to it should be fairly simple. All we need to do then is put some comments into sysctl.conf saying where the new default settings are and how to override them. Would you like to make the change or should I prepare another patch? I can't work on this right now but am happy to review. You might also try Kees, since I believe he added the defaults originally. My intention after the procps merge was to move the ubuntu-specific sysctl items into the .d directory. It is a correct design to have the sysctl.conf be the global override location -- the bug here is that anything is shipped in this file. As for the wine/min_addr thing, I'm still not very happy with the installation of wine disabling this default -- I would much rather either wine fix this by catching segvs, or a command is created to temporarily disable the setting. Making it an installed default weakens security as a whole for the entire system. -- Kees Cook Ubuntu Security Team -- invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/256025 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 256025] Re: invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf
The attached patch fixes the issue quite simply. Please commit and upload :) ** Attachment added: Load /etc/sysctl.d after /etc/sysctl.conf http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16675414/fix-sysctl.d.patch ** Changed in: procps (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged -- invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/256025 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 256025] Re: invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf
The Debian maintainer has confirmed that the same change will happen in Debian, so we won't be behaving differently from Lenny in this case. -- invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/256025 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 256025] Re: invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf
Setting importance to medium as it blocks medium bugs (eg: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/114025) ** Changed in: procps (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium -- invoke-rc.d procps start loads /etc/syctl.d before /etc/sysctl.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/256025 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
