[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
** Changed in: ecryptfs Importance: Medium = Wishlist ** Changed in: ecryptfs-utils (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium = Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 Title: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ecryptfs/+bug/257901/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
** Changed in: ecryptfs-utils (Debian) Status: Unknown = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 Title: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ecryptfs/+bug/257901/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Looking at the attachments in this bug report, I noticed that an attachment was not flagged as a patch. A patch contains changes to an Ubuntu package that will resolve a bug and this attachment is one! Subsequently, I've checked the patch flag for it. In the future when submitting patches please use the patch checkbox as there are some Launchpad searches that use this feature. You can learn more about the patch workflow at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Patches. ** Tags added: patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 Title: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
If I am at UDS-L I could probably pretty easily work with either of you two to integrate the branches and add any desired features; if you think that would be useful, put in a good word for my sponsorship ;) -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
I put desktop-karmic-ecryptfs-desktop-ui on my list of desktop things to have for Lucid. -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Awesome! Thanks, Martin. :-Dustin -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
If you need any help, let me know. The nautilus integration branch is at lp:~mrooney/ecryptfs/nautilus-integration which depends on the API branch. Dustin, I saw you merged that branch but is the API actually being installed anywhere? -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Another release and I still haven't found any time to work on this. CC'ing Martin Pitt, desktop team lead. Martin, too late for Karmic, but do you think you or someone on your team might be able to throw a little bit of effort into merging the UI work that Michael has done, and ensure that we have sufficient GUI integration for eCryptfs functionality? :-Dustin -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
** Changed in: ecryptfs Status: In Progress = Triaged ** Changed in: ecryptfs-utils (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Triaged -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Thanks for the merge Dustin. Are the necessary changes in for the packaging to actually ship the API correctly? If so I can merge that into my nautilus branch and propose a merge for that which should help provide a basic API. -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Sorry, that should be help provide a basic GUI. -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
** Also affects: ecryptfs Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #505008 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=505008 ** Also affects: ecryptfs-utils (Debian) via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=505008 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
** Changed in: ecryptfs-utils (Ubuntu) Target: intrepid-alpha-5 = None -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
I certainly prefer the larger icons, but I question whether or not the big icon should be on the button. An icon on a button should usually indicate what the button will do, not what the current state is. I would suggest having the icon grouped with the string Your Private folder is currently..., and have the button to (un)lock as a separate entity with some space separating them. Of course this doesn't preclude the big icon _also_ acting as a button to (un)lock, maximising the clickable area for those that know about it, but it makes it clearer that the icon is showing the current state, rather than the projected result of clicking the button. My original suggestion for a UI was to create a Gnome panel applet for (un)locking the Private folder, and ideally for there to be integration into Nautilus and the Open/Save dialogue. Unfortunately I'm not able to code any of this myself, and Mike was good enough to step up with the current application. It may not be ideal, but until someone writes something more appropriate it's better than no UI at all. As for Nautilus integration, I raised this on the wiki and was informed that the current implementation of encrypted Private directories is being handled by the Server Team, who have no remit for anything other than command-line implementations. I therefore filed an issue in Launchpad specifically relating to Nautilus integration: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/259799 The position on that issue is that the Desktop Team has no resources available to work on this, so it should be filed upstream. I haven't yet done this, so feel free to open an upstream bug if you wish. -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
I think the vault should be locked/unlocked in situ, i.e., right inside the folder view. This may be possible in Nautilus with a ribbon on top similar to the Trash view. I’m a fan of this: http://www.iclarified.com/images/tutorials/177/698/698.png I'll attach a mockup of how I feel it would work well. This is of course not possible in open/save dialogs. ** Attachment added: mockup.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17440012/mockup.png -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
(icons from Epiphany.) ** Attachment added: better-ui.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17406196/better-ui.png -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Thanks Tobias. Did you actually code that or is it just a graphical mockup? If there is code a patch would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Well, the patch is so trivial, that I found it not worth posting.
What I'm really wondering is, where and how will this UI be presented?
Did you think this through, yet?
My initial impression is that this will sidestep the established desktop
mechanisms. Shouldn't this be intregrated with upstream? What about
PolicyKit to avoid suid root? What about making this button a banner at
the top of the nautilus window, similar to what you get in the Trash Bin
view, or on memory cards with photos? Shouldn't the little eject icon in
the Nautilus sidepane work for an unmount?
The icons are /usr/share/epiphany-
browser/icons/hicolor/48x48/status/lock-{in,}secure.png
** Attachment added: cosmetics
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17425617/better-ui.patch
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[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Okay, I tested it on Intrepid and it works! By the way, the small project now lives at https://launchpad.net/ecryptfs-gui. Dustin, any feedback on my previous comment? I am not sure exactly where to go from here. -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Mike Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I tested it on Intrepid and it works! By the way, the small project now lives at https://launchpad.net/ecryptfs-gui. Dustin, any feedback on my previous comment? I am not sure exactly where to go from here. I think your LP project is okay for now, until we get to a point when we're ready to push it upstream. Obviously, we should have this somewhere under version control while you're developing it ;-) I, too tried it, and it worked okay for me. Is there any chance you could take a look at putting a frontend on ecryptfs-setup-private? The manpage and the usage statements should document the necessary/optional inputs as well. I'd love to add an entry to System-Preferences-Encrypted Private Directory where users could go to initially set this up, and then later configure it. :-Dustin -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Those terms would be more true to form, of what's actually being done. But perhaps too technical for the target audience? Thoughts? I agree about the use of mounting and unmounting being too technical for this application. With a layperson it might also lead to confusion with the need to unmount external drives before they're detached - we don't want to give the impression that the encrypted data are somehow outside of the user's home directory. Although not technically correct, I think the use of encrypt and decrypt convey the right sense of what is being done, from the end-user's perspective. If we're having checkboxes for both auto-mount _and_ auto-unmount, I wonder whether they might be better moved off of the main UI and into an options screen. The button to (un)mount ~/Private could potentially be used very frequently, whereas it is likely that these options will be touched only very occasionally. As such it might be worth moving them out of the primary UI, partly to avoid accidental clicks on them, and partly to simplify the main screen. Of course this then raises the question of how to open such an options screen - adding another button to the primary UI kind of defeats the purpose. I would suggest a menu bar, with nothing more than FileQuit and EditPreferences on it. Thoughts? -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
I agree about the use of mounting and unmounting being too technical for this application. Yes, I must admit I too feel this way. Though we don't want to be inaccurate in a way that confuses more knowledgable users, although I am not convinced the current terminology of encrypt/decrypt does, so we may be okay. Of course this then raises the question of how to open such an options screen - adding another button to the primary UI kind of defeats the purpose. I would suggest a menu bar, with nothing more than FileQuit and EditPreferences on it. Thoughts? Probably just make it tabbed and have a second tab for the checkboxes/persistent options. -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Actually, strike this I have talked to the upstream ecryptfs-utils maintainers and they are quite willing an interested to integrate GUI into the main ecryptfs-utils project. Hmm, well that is good in ways, but doesn't that change the scope of this then? My idea was to have a simple GUI tailored to Intrepid's implementation, that is, an encrypted ~/Private. If upstream wants a GUI, I assume it would be completely different. What would a GUI look like that is useful to ecryptfs-utils generically but also good for Intrepid users? Maybe I am just confused... :) -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Hi Dustin! I am going to install Intrepid-A4 and wanted to ping you to make sure the instructions I should use to test this are the ones under Testing from the Wiki page. I noticed it says it is up to date as of 8/4, and wanted to make sure it was still up to date. By the way, is this GUI something you want to make into Intrepid and if so, what is the process? Does it need to be its own package? How do we handle translations? I can make an Ecryptfs-GUI project on Launchpad if you think that is appropriate, and figure out how to package and PPA it and then get it into Intrepid, if you find that the best workflow. I am happy to take this as seriously or not seriously as you find appropriate :) However I do think if this feature makes it into Intrepid, a GUI is pretty important. -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
And shaggy, I think this feature is still useful for users with encrypted ~/. That is because I assume in general you have to have your Home decrypted pretty much always when logged in for things to work properly. However with ~/Private, this is not typically going to be the case. As such it will allow you to have encrypted data while logged in, with on-demand decryption, if you desire. With an encrypted Home even your most private data is still vulnerable if you are logged in, but keeping your private files in ~/Private and unmounting when you don't need it would keep those safe. Sure, when logged off, ~/Private is double encrypted but this shouldn't really matter and is transparent to the logged in user. The only downside I would see here is if you plug your drive into another computer to access it, you have to decrypt your Home using whatever utility you require, and then use ecryptfs to get at your ~/Private. However for some this added level of security for ~/Private may be seen again as a feature. Although, this probably belongs on the wiki and not this bug report for a GUI :) -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Mike Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - It currently can't detect the mount state, so it assumes it is mounted when run. Change this on line 89 if yours isn't mounted, or just mount it before running. Can anyone give me a Python line[s] that will detect this? Hi Mike- I can point you to the source code of ecryptfs-setup-private, where I have a check (in shell code) to see if it's already mounted. It looks something like this: ... # Check for active mounts MOUNTPOINT=$HOME/$PRIVATE_DIR CRYPTDIR=$HOME/.$PRIVATE_DIR grep -qs $MOUNTPOINT /proc/mounts error [$MOUNTPOINT] is already mounted grep -qs $CRYPTDIR /proc/mounts error [$CRYPTDIR] is already mounted ... Basically, dig through /proc/mounts looking for the private directory. :-Dustin -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Mark Crutch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on Dustin's comments it appears that checking the automount option should simply create ~/.ecryptfs/auto-mount whilst unchecking it should remove that file. The initial state of the checkbox should be reflect the existence, or otherwise, of that file. Correct. The files are: ~/.ecryptfs/auto-mount ~/.ecryptfs/auto-umount Note that it is umount rather than unmount. This is to match the mount/umount system commands. I notice that Dustin also mentions an auto-unmount option. This would presumably be useful if the user wants a process to be able to access the decrypted files after logout, via a cron job or similar. I think if we're in the realms of cron jobs then the user can be considered advanced enough to create their own file, so I would suggest that the auto-unmount option be left out of this application. I disagree with this. Please make both checkboxes available. I can think of a handful of cases where users would like this mounting/umounting to occur, or not occur independently. The underlying functionality is present in pam_ecryptfs, and I see no reason to hide it. -- :-Dustin -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Mike Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where should I go from here? Will mounting or unmounting require a gksudo (or will the UI itself be run with gksudo), and what should the autorun option do, code-wise? No gksudo should be required. mount.ecryptfs_private and umount.ecryptfs_private are both setuid binaries. :-dustin -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Mike Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dustin! I am going to install Intrepid-A4 and wanted to ping you to make sure the instructions I should use to test this are the ones under Testing from the Wiki page. I noticed it says it is up to date as of 8/4, and wanted to make sure it was still up to date. Yes, those are current. I just installed a new KVM and used those instructions. I will note that the auth-client-config command will hopefully be going away soon. Steve Langasek is working on a PAM configuration framework that I should be able to require and call in the ecryptfs-utils package itself to setup the pam_ecryptfs module appropriately. I will keep those instructions up-to-date. By the way, is this GUI something you want to make into Intrepid and if so, what is the process? Personally, I would very much like to see a GUI in Intrepid. However, I doubt it would make it into Main. It would probably need to go into Universe for Intrepid, but, of course, I'm not the final arbiter of any of this ;-) Does it need to be its own package? Yes. The ecryptfs-utils package is currently technically a server package, so we couldn't/shouldn't start requiring gtk, etc. I'm going to ping the upstream ecryptfs-utils maintainer and ask what his opinion on the proper home for an ecryptfs-util-gui project would be. I can make an Ecryptfs-GUI project on Launchpad if Agreed. I suggest you call it ecryptfs-gui. We'll need the packaging, and such done too. At which point, we can provide binary installables in a PPA. Next, we'll propose it as a new package in REVU, http://revu.ubuntuwire.com. It'll go through a vetting process, and we'll need people advocating its inclusion into Universe. How do we handle translations? I have no idea :-) I am happy to take this as seriously or not seriously as you find appropriate :) However I do think if this feature makes it into Intrepid, a GUI is pretty important. Agreed. Hopefully, we can get this into Universe. :-Dustin -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Mark Crutch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I still favour decrypt - not least because it's a real word, whereas unencrypt isn't (at least as far as dictionary.com and wiktionary.org is concerned). I tend to agree... decrypt sounds better than unencrypt. From a technical standpoint, what you're doing is actually Mounting the Encrypted Directory, which makes it readable, and Unmounting the Encrypted Directory makes it unreadable again. Those terms would be more true to form, of what's actually being done. But perhaps too technical for the target audience? Thoughts? :-Dustin -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Dustin Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can make an Ecryptfs-GUI project on Launchpad if Agreed. I suggest you call it ecryptfs-gui. We'll need the packaging, and such done too. At which point, we can provide binary installables in a PPA. Actually, strike this I have talked to the upstream ecryptfs-utils maintainers and they are quite willing an interested to integrate GUI into the main ecryptfs-utils project. This code is currently housed at: * http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/mhalcrow/ecryptfs-utils.git;a=summary It will take some packaging magic on our end to get ecryptfs-utils to spit out a separate ecryptfs-gui package, but that shouldn't be too hard. :-Dustin -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Alrighty then, I'll bite :) ** Changed in: ecryptfs-utils (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium Assignee: (unassigned) = Mike Rooney (michael) Status: New = In Progress Target: None = intrepid-alpha-5 -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Okay, here is a quick initial version in pygtk. Currently there is no underlying functionality, but who cares about that ;) Where should I go from here? Will mounting or unmounting require a gksudo (or will the UI itself be run with gksudo), and what should the autorun option do, code-wise? ** Attachment added: ecryptfs-gui1.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16775587/ecryptfs-gui1.png -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Based on Dustin's comments it appears that checking the automount option should simply create ~/.ecryptfs/auto-mount whilst unchecking it should remove that file. The initial state of the checkbox should be reflect the existence, or otherwise, of that file. I notice that Dustin also mentions an auto-unmount option. This would presumably be useful if the user wants a process to be able to access the decrypted files after logout, via a cron job or similar. I think if we're in the realms of cron jobs then the user can be considered advanced enough to create their own file, so I would suggest that the auto-unmount option be left out of this application. I think we also need to consider the terminology used to refer to the ~/Private directory and the act of (un)mounting it. I would suggest text something like this (with reference to the lines on the screenshot): Your Private directory is currently encrypted (when the directory is unmounted, preceded by an icon) Your Private directory is currently unencrypted (when the directory is mounted, preceded by an icon) Decrypt your Private directory (on the button when the directory is unmounted) Encrypt your Private directory (on the button when the directory is mounted) Automatically decrypt your Private directory at login (by the checkbox) -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Thanks for the feedback Mark, I agree that the wording can be improved, and like your suggestions. I shall await Dustin's feedback. For now, here is the initial version of the script. I don't have an Intrepid box running but theoretically the mounting and unmounting *should* work, so give it a try if you can. Just run ecryptfs-ui.py with Python (or if it is executable it will run by itself). Caveats: - It currently can't detect the mount state, so it assumes it is mounted when run. Change this on line 89 if yours isn't mounted, or just mount it before running. Can anyone give me a Python line[s] that will detect this? - The automount checkbox currently does nothing (but it sounds easy to implement, from Mark's comment). Feedback appreciated (and necessary since I can't test myself :) ** Attachment added: ecryptfs-gui-0.1.tar.gz http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16815505/ecryptfs-gui-0.1.tar.gz -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
Okay, here's version 0.2, with functional toggling of the auto-mount option. Note that it still has the second caveat of the first version, so someone feel free to implement getMounted at line 70 :) I took out the business logic or whatever you might call it from the GUI and made an EcryptController class to perform all the implementation details, which cleans up the code I think. Also someone else could import this and use it if so desired. I also changed the language a bit, with a few differences from Mark's comments. First, the icons are still after the text (you said preceded but I assume you meant proceeded, or didn't you?) I also consistently used Unencrypt instead of Decrypt because I think that is more understandable for a novice user. Thoughts? Comments? Does it work? ;) ** Attachment added: ecryptfs-gui-0.2.tar.gz http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16839769/ecryptfs-gui-0.2.tar.gz -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
I have an Intrepid installation on a virtual machine at work, but I'm off until next week so won't get a chance to try the app until at least then. I did mean preceded: with the text change you end up with a complete sentence, so putting the icon in the middle of the string per the original screenshot seemed a little out of place. Whether it's before or after makes little difference though. Unfortunately I don't speak Python, so can't help with the code directly, however if nobody's provided any more information by the time I get round to testing this next week I'll have a dig and see if the mount state is exposed anywhere obvious (i.e. /proc/mounts). Personally I still favour decrypt - not least because it's a real word, whereas unencrypt isn't (at least as far as dictionary.com and wiktionary.org is concerned). A quick check of the help browser in my Hardy installation shows decrypt used three times (in the Passwords and Encryption Keys manual, the Evolution manual and the Archive Manager manual), whereas unencrypt only merits a single mention (also in the Evolution manual). From this completely unscientific survey it would seem that the existing documentation in this area favours decrypt, but it's hardly a landslide victory. -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
If i dont need and want the ~/Private thing, because i allready set up encryption for entire /home/. Will there be something to turn the feature on/off per user/per system? -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 257901] Re: Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 6:09 PM, shaggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If i dont need and want the ~/Private thing, because i allready set up encryption for entire /home/. Will there be something to turn the feature on/off per user/per system? Quite simply, don't run the 'ecryptfs-setup-private' utility. :-Dustin -- Suggestion: GUI frontend(s) for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257901 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
