[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
What is wrong with Ubuntu? It says the latest and greatest in open-source software, but where is the latest? And the greatest, in fact, in some places? All it does is take the best applications, say, Firefox, mess with its code that results in a horrible experience for users, and the people blame the creator of the application (Mozilla) for it, when Ubuntu is really at fault! Robert Nasiadak is 100% right here. I think it's time to move to OpenSUSE or Fedora, or Mandriva. Don't tell me about how uploading packages is hard, how there might be bugs, how schedules must be met. No. Who uses Ubuntu? The public, is it not? Then, if the public doesn't like Ubuntu, whose reputation gets damaged? What is the purpose of Ubuntu? To please the public, to answer their requests, and provide an operating system for THE PUBLIC, am I not right? I'm sorry for this rant, but I really want to see OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid. Or I will move to Fedora. Sure, I can install from *augh* backports, or even use the official DEBs from http://openoffice.org/ , but I want Ubuntu support, in Intrepid Main. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Well, going over to other dists is just burning time and sad... Tombuntu posted a clear manual: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/14/install-openofficeorg-30-in-ubuntu-804-and-810/ Calcs ppa version is crippled and Suns extensions are broken. Old splash and GUI. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
I would love to see OpenOffice.org 3 in Intrepid. I belive, that when you don't include it, everybody will get it through PPA and download it anyway. Escpecially the users which really using it daily! Yes, I know, its okey to use PPA's! I love them too! BUT when a huge amount of users use a PPA, then the package should be included into the distribution! Colin wrote, its far to Risky to include it in this stage of the release cycle. But what about the users which want to use OpenOffice.org 3 and therefor use the PPA (which will be a huge amount of users)? Its risky for them too! Thats why the its risky argument doesnt count for me! I think its more risky to have a vast amount of users out there, which uses the PPA just to get OOo 3. You cant just shirk responsibility and say Ah, its not working? He is using PPA? Not our Problem! when everybody is affected... So Ubuntu has to take care for the OOo 3 Packages anyway, which leads to the question why not include it!? When users call for something, it sould be included! If you dont do it, the users get it at their own way, and the system is probably less stable. This brings a negative credibility regarding stability also I would prefer a delay of Intrepid, if it bring OOo 3 with it... -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
I have to concur the majority here. Intrepid doesn't really have that much *new* going for it right now; at least not visibly at any rate. And Mandiva 2009 has already shipped with OOo 3.0. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct - http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ . Bug reports are handled by humans, the majority of whom are volunteers, so please bear this in mind. Also, since this bug has enough information provided, please don't add comments that just support any decision; they make it hard to manage the bug/information. If you'd like to see this bug implemented, simply subscribe to it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/267376/+subscribe. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 03:19 +, Chris Cheney wrote: This will be done for backports with OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 to be released [..] Feel free to use the packages in the PPA and report bugs using the Help-Report a bug feature so that it is easier to track which bugs pertain to 3.0. ...how well will any PPA and/or backport of OOo3 for intrepid be maintained? will there be enough attention of the devs to provide bugfixes and updates to intrepid users who can't do without OOo3? or will they be left standing in the rain on their own? -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
i guess this is the kind of thing that makes mark push for distro synchronicity -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
** Changed in: openoffice.org (Ubuntu) Target: ubuntu-8.10 = intrepid-updates ** Summary changed: - [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release + [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid Backports -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid Backports https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
maybe it's a marketing thing... every new feature in intrepid is one less to attach to jaunty... :-) anyway, I'll install and use OOo3 instead of OOo2.4 on intrepid, one way or another... -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
As mention above I also prefer a delay and there are bugs enough for that even without OO-3, I cannot see any bug running Calcs ppa and RC4. OO-3 is just about this, Do you Ubuntu ? http://www.librarian.net/stax/2042/do-you-ubuntu/ Backports, ppas and so are more for crazy nerds not for normal users or newbies. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Mike Rooney: 1. What I'm saying is, if you wanted to, you could have. At alpha 1. But you didn't. Your loss. 2. True. There were those that yelled when Hardy shipped with Firefox 3. But did that do anything? No. They were merely drowned down by the praise of the new features in Firefox 3. 3. I don't want it in Backports. I want it in Main. As default. What I want is what the majority want. Where I go the majority follows, where the majority goes, I follow. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Request OOO 3.0 in Ubuntu Intrepid or as an update in 8.10.1 please. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
There will be no such thing as 8.10.1. That is only for LTS releases. And x.xx.X releases aren't anything special but bug-fix updates pre- applied. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
I second this request... Correct me if I'm wrong, but backports is a reporitory for software that is in the release+1, but compliles OK with the current release... This is not very good in what relates to bug correction and user experience... If a usr notices a bug in this backport, it will report it through launchpad and he will see it being corrected in the next release but not the current one... This is very frustrating. Also, if Open Office correctly (or mostly) opens docx, etc... it would be a great help into stealing windows market share to ubuntu... Bugs are more tolerable than a missing feature to a general user. Also, bugs get corrected in time... Missing features don't... And no, backports is not an answer to this... It's a very good effort generally, but I wouldn't trust it with my eyes closed on a package such as this... -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
I think OOo 3.0 should at least be added to main. It would be nice if it was a standard part of 8.10 but otherwise it should be at least an option, it should be installable through a meta-package in synaptic/whatever package manager -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
I see no reason why 3.0 is of great importance for people to immediately upgrade to. The front-end looks verbatim to their 1.1 to 2.4 series and the backend has new features that the home user rarely needs. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
You're just kinda blind so. Let's sum it up : - 1024 columns in calc instead of 256 - ODT 1.2 support - Microsoft Office 2007 format opening and writing - VBA support - new icons - better note system And a lot of bug squashed. Why moving to 3.0, so ? -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
i think openoffice in general goes through much testing before getting released. I have never bumped into any openoffice crash or bug in my years of using open office. It'd would be an very nice to have OO3.0 with 8.10 -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
I would also like so see 3.0 included, and I think it is always good to delay 1 week to solve more Ubuntu bugs. I mean hey you delay 1 week and have a better Ubuntu for 6 months... -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Well, I also would like to have it included, but I also see the point of the devs. So why not put 3.0 already now in the backports and leave it there even after the release? Like this, all the users who want it, could include it already now easily and help finding bugs. Even the newcomers would not find it too difficult to enable backports over synaptic. And the users looking for stability will not enable backports... -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
GNOME gets an exception from the general procedure because it has a very reliable release schedule that we're in sync with, and so it makes absolute sense to keep up with it. This does not go for OpenOffice.org; until quite recently we could not even have said reliably whether it was going to ship before Ubuntu 8.10, despite originally setting a release date of months ago, and so upgrading to an alpha in intrepid would have been very risky. I appreciate that it is a very important part of the desktop, but that is exactly why we don't want to drop a broken version in at the last minute. Firefox 3 was unusual because we were going to have to support Ubuntu 8.04 for three years on the desktop, and we knew that Firefox has a history of making it very difficult in practice for us to offer security support for older versions over an extended period of time. This has not historically been a concern for OpenOffice.org, and furthermore Ubuntu 8.10 only needs to be supported for 18 months, so this is much less of a concern. Furthermore, apparently the scheme that used to be used to produce versioned packages (openoffice.org2-*) has bitrotted for reasons I'm not entirely familiar with, so we couldn't use this to produce parallel- installable openoffice.org3-* packages (which was something I had asked Chris to do). This means that upgrading to OpenOffice.org 3.0 is an all- or-nothing proposition; due to the complexity of the packages involved, rolling it back to 2.4.1 with epoch versions would be very difficult indeed and would probably cause other problems. Far too risky for this stage in our release cycle. Regarding the comments about release timings in general, I believe that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases addresses these quite adequately, and at the moment we have no intention of slipping Ubuntu 8.10's release. We would only be prepared to negotiate that for showstopper problems, and while I understand that this is very important to some people it is not a showstopper. The plan at the moment is to put OpenOffice.org 3.0 into jaunty, and then consider offering it in intrepid-backports if it tests out reasonably well there. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Requesting OO.o in 8.10 -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
3.0 that is!! -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Please add OOo to 8.10 :) -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Please add OOo 3.0 to 8.10 :) -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
So much for the latest and greatest. It's a shame that such a significant upgrade won't make it to the final release. And a marketing gaffe, too. We've already lost A LOT due to the lack of new theme despite the promises. People ask me what's so exciting about Intrepid and I don't really know what to tell them anymore. I wouldn't mind if at least the backports repository actually had the latest software. Waiting 6 more months is daunting to say the least. Well, the good thing is there will always be PPAs to turn to for the a little bit more advanced users. joke So.. if you want Ubuntu to include the latest version of your software, cripple security updates for older versions. You'll be much more likely to get an exception next time. :) /joke -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
This makes me very very sad. :( Im with Robert in not really knowing what the advantage of switching to intrepid is. Seems like the same thing as hardy, plus minor changes -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Clearly there is an overwhelming desire on the part of the users to have OpenOffice 3.0 in Intrepid. In normal circumstances, I understand that there should be no delay in releasing Intrepid. The fact that an application is not released in stable enough form to be included is not normally a reason to delay the release. OpenOffice is a core application - it is one of the primary applications that is a 'seller' for Linux. The fact that it is included and installed by default is an important consideration. If Intrepid cannot be delayed, then I would suggest that ubuntu should release Intrepid 8.10.1, with the key requirement that OpenOffice 3.0 is included. I understand that this is normally done only for an LTS release, but I would suggest that these are exceptional circumstances. It is important, especially for new users, that their first experience with ubuntu is a positive one. The fact that OpenOffice 3.0 is out there, but not included in an initial installation of ubuntu will detract from the experience. Not sure who needs to be involved in the decision, but I think most users would agree that waiting six months to have OpenOffice 3.0 included in a standard ubuntu installation is not acceptable. Regards, -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Just my 0.02 euro / dollar here. I think it could be a bad bad bad idea not to include OOo 3.0 in Intrepid because all major distros this fall will include it : mandriva 2009.0 done it, Fedora 10 will do it. Not doing it could be bad advertising. Or at least, providing a meta packages explaining that user could have it without trouble. When i will upgrade to Intrepid with a clean install (nearly 7 months of hardy on my computer let some cadavers) I will kick out OOo 2.4.1 and install official openoffice.org deb on it, as I've done for Hardy. It takes 5 minutes to do, and OpenOffice.org - even if it is not completely visually merged in ubuntu theme is usable. Everybody is free to use which version it wants to use. But I think OOo 2.4.1 will see it support ended soon. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
This will be done for backports with OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 to be released on Dec 2. OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 is a bugfix only release and should prove to be much more stable than the current release. Many problems don't show up until after the official release as was seen with 2.4.0 in Hardy. Unfortunately as Colin already mentioned openoffice.org versioned package support (eg openoffice.org3-foo) has bitrotted and doesn't work anymore. I tried resurrecting it but kept running into one problem after another and finally after consultation with the Debian maintainer came to the conclusion that it was unsupportable. Feel free to use the packages in the PPA and report bugs using the Help-Report a bug feature so that it is easier to track which bugs pertain to 3.0. Thanks! Chris Cheney -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
So, if it can be done in a clean way, what about adding a note of this in releases notes (not possible to give OOo 3.0 in Intrepid), and adding a wiki page for people who wants to add by hand official or ppa packages ? Just my 0.02 euro / dollar. It will be great, but it is sad that it could not be done before official intrepid release :( -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Ubuntu has become known for predictable release schedules, Unless there is a bad kernel (or X) bug such as e1000e (Now fixed) than 8.10 should be released on time. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Open Office 3.0 has been released to-day (Oct-13-2008). I suspect that it's too late to be included in Intrepid, but it should absolutely be a high priority in terms of backport / update in Intrepid. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Even though there are sure to be bugs in 3.0.0 I'd prefer for Intrepid to be released with it instead of 2.4.1. My motivations for this are: Intrepid is NOT an LTS release, meaning that those who are in search of stability and support will most likely not choose Intrepid for deployment. This gives more leeway for potentially troublesome packages (not that OOo 3.0 has been troublesome, the beta and RC's have been quite stable). Including OOo 3.0 now instead of in the next release gives it more exposure and hence more chance to find any troublesome bugs before it is time to release the next LTS. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
I would rather Intrepid be delayed than shipped with OOo 2.4.1. Ship it with OOo 3.0! -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
The final has been released. See http://www.prweb.com/releases/OOo/3/prweb1459364.htm for the press statement. So how about it folks - Oo-3 in 8.10!!? -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Also, you must realize that if Ubuntu truly wanted to, it would have included OpenOffice.org already. Developers, you cannot complain that it is already past feature freeze, and that it's too late. Nonsense. Let's say you did the same thing with GNOME. GNOME 2.24 released well after Intrepid's feature freeze. But did you not include it? Of course you included it! How? By providing GNOME 2.23, the DEVELOPMENT version of GNOME 2.24, and changing that to GNOME 2.24 after the feature freeze, falling back on the alibi that 2.24 was only a bug-fix release for 2.23. The same situation with OpenOffice.org. If you truly wanted, you could have provided 3.0 Beta, with 3.0 RC1, and so on. There, problems would have been found and solved. Exactly as you have done with GNOME. I am aware GNOME is like the base, if not all of Ubuntu. But so is OpenOffice.org. It is one of the major symbols of open-source. I do not want to see Ubuntu ship with an outdated version of a major application when it has updated all others. I know openoffice.org splits into various files in the Ubuntu repos. You can delay 8.10 for a few days if necessary. You might say You say that because you want your features. But we're developers, and have to keep on our schedule. Come on, Ubuntu is the biggest Linux distro. The public forgave you when you delayed Alpha 1 for like a month, it'll forgive you again if you delay it for like a few days. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
come on, guys, there's tons of bugs for intrepid that still need to be fixed. go do your 5-a-day to fix those, and quit whining about oo.o3 not being included. i'm sure they'll include it after 2-3 weeks or something! -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Hi Exsecrabilus, thanks for your input but I think you are missing two or three key points. 1) Intepid did not ship any beta/RC version of OO 3.0, like they did with Gnome (2.23), so comparing the two is not valid. If there are any serious bugs we may not have time to catch them and this could result in a disappointing and unpolished experience for OO users. 2) There are users just as vocal and adamant as you on the OTHER side, who would yell and scream if Ubuntu shipped OO 3.0 with bugs, and that it shouldn't have been pushed in past the feature freeze just to appease a few people who could easily install it themselves (see #3) if they weren't concerned with something as stable and thoroughly tested. A large part of the appeal of Ubuntu to many users is that when a release comes out, all the applications have been tested for months already and have all the kinks worked out. If we start throwing in completely new versions of major applications mere weeks before a release, Ubuntu will lose a lot of stability and reputation. 3) You (and any other user) will be easily able to install OO 3.0 yourself via a deb/ppa/backport if you so desire. It is a great candidate for a backport and will probably be backported soon after release (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports for more information). This seems like a win/win to me, since users who want stability and polish get it by default, and users like yourself who want more bleeding edge can easily enable it in many ways as I mentioned above. I don't really see the gripe. As such if the decision is to stay with 2.4 for Intrepid (only 6 months after all), I think it makes sense, and OO 3.0 can be stabilized by Intrepid backport users and Jaunty alpha/beta testers. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
I really hope to see this happen. Seeing OO3 in Intrepid is a huge deal. I strongly vote for Ubuntu to put the resources needed into getting it in the final releases of Intrepid. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Well, Ubuntu is supposed to be very user friendly, any new user would not be able to install OO.o 3 on their own, it isn't just one .deb, you need to install like 20 .deb packages at once, needs to be done via the shell. Secondly, OO.o 3 seems to be very stable, if we put it into Intrepid there will be very few bugs, I haven't noticed any, we would be able to bug squash in two weeks. Thirdy, for those of you that say, well just upgrade the package from 2.4.1 to 3.0 a few weeks after Intrepid's release, thius will NOT happen, major version changes never happen in normal releases, that is why there was so much pressure to upgrade to FF 3 RC in Hardy, because FF 2 would't be supported long enough and no major version changes. The worst thing that can happen is a relatively small bug popping up for a few users after Intrepid is released, and an average upgrade could fix that easily. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
It's prefere to delay Intrepid 1week that don't ship With OO.o 3.0. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
OpenOffice.org 3.0 is out. You can find the final version on the mirrors. An official release announcement is expected tomorrow. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
I use it since 3.0rc2 and it is very stable with official debs from openoffice.org. Let's hope it could be included for Intrepid Ibex. As Mandriva 2009.0 give it, why not Intrepid Ibex ? -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
I think it's final and not rc right now, so, please include it to 8.10. http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2704 -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Chris has now packaged RC2 in https://launchpad.net/~openoffice- pkgs/+archive, although it's still called openoffice.org-* so you can't test it in parallel with an OOo 2.4.1 installation. I've asked Chris to rename these packages to openoffice.org3-*, which means that the PPA could be a useful test for parallel-installable packages in Intrepid. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Pushing milestone back to final. ** Changed in: openoffice.org (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Chris Cheney (ccheney) Target: ubuntu-8.10-beta = ubuntu-8.10 -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
I also would like to see 3.0 as a separate package, in bug #229054 the 3.0 beta2 package has been packaged. But has the packaging for RC1 already started? I would be willing to help testing it. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
It it is now pushed back to Sept 30. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
After the OOo Release Status meeting this morning it appears they are trying to target a release date of Sept 22 which should be plenty of time to get OOo 3.0 into Intrepid as the main version... if it actually happens. Chris -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
It's almost certainly too late at this point since OOo 3.0 was supposed to have originally been released on Sep 2, not just the release candidate. At their current rate of progress the final version will probably be released at the same time as Ubuntu Intrepid release candidate (~ Oct 20). However, we are considering having separate openoffice.org3 packages for users who don't mind a very buggy version to use, but it won't be the default version installed. ** Changed in: openoffice.org (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist Status: New = Triaged Target: None = ubuntu-8.10-beta -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Just wondering : could it be possible to integrate a RC (2?) version and upgrade it later to final one ? Like Canonical had done for Firefox. I know, it is a little bigger than Firefox, but having to wait for Ibex + 1 for OpenOffice.org 3.0 could be a little longer ;) I remember that Ubuntu Breezu Badger was released using OpenOffice.org 2.0 Beta2... Yes I know, it was 3 years ago ;) -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267376] Re: [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release
Maybe, but it depends on how delayed the final release is. If it somehow releases before the end of September we might be able to get it in still, but I doubt that it would be allowed in if it is delayed past the Intrepid release. -- [Request] OpenOffice.org 3.0 in Intrepid ibex release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267376 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
