[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
I'm running X-Plane 10.03 Beta 10 on Ubuntu Oneiric 64 here. A X-Plane MessageBox states that We could not locate an load OpenAL while strace shows open(/usr/lib32/libopenal.so, O_RDONLY) = 13 read(13, \177ELF\2\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\0\1\0\0\0\340k\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 512) = 512 close(13) (...) open(/usr/lib/libopenal.so, O_RDONLY) = 13 read(13, \177ELF\2\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\0\1\0\0\0\340k\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 512) = 512 close(13) Any workaround is very appreciated. :-) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 Title: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/273558/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
I have an older DVD installer - but where would I download a newer version from? on the x-plane.com site, I only see the demo the updater, but not the DVD installer, for X-Plane v9: http://x-plane.com/pg_downloads.html -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 Title: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/273558/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
http://wiki.x-plane.com/DVD_Installers -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 Title: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/273558/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
oh. I see. good to know :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 Title: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/273558/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
Ben, Didn't know about this patch in X-Plane. Good to know now :) Akos -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 Title: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/273558/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
Ben, One note: the X-Plane Linux DVD installer still depends on libopenal.so.0, at least the one I have downloaded a while ago - on the site, I can't find a DVD installer download anymore, and I don't have the Linux DVD installer on my DVD. Akos -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 Title: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/273558/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
I believe the OpenAL dependency was removed from the DVD installer with the 2.05 installer. Unfortunately, this does nothing for already pressed DVDs, but then that's only fixable by maintaining binary compatibility at the distro level. Users can download the latest DVD installer from the net and use it to unpack the contents of their older DVD. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 Title: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/273558/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
yeah, it's a standoff: app developers refuse to link to the new shared object name, as the ABI didn't change. the distro makers refuse to maintain the old name. thus it's us, the users, how are left to do the symlinking manually :( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 Title: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/273558/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
It's not really a stand-off; we (LR, the company that makes X-Plane) have patched X-Plane to dynamically detect either libopenal.so.0 or 1 so that we will run without user mods on any distribution (including older distros that haven't made this change). It is only the older LR products that are no longer patched or modified that require sim-linking. We don't feel great about this, but we also can't crack open every legacy version of X-Plane any time a new distribution changes a binary API. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 Title: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/273558/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
The ABI of OpenAL is unchanged as users continue to work around this by sym-linking. a href=http://www.squidoo.com/fly-sim;flight simulator/a -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 Title: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/273558/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
Ah - thank you for the symbol list! From the decorations (and names) it looks these symbols are all OpenAL extensions...except for alBufferAppendData, which appears to have been (incorrectly?!?) exported as a non-decorated symbol too. One document from 2001 referes to the well-documented alBufferAppendData, but it's not in the 1.1 spec, not even as a dropped symbol. Anyway, I can't deny that, to the extent that there might be an (undocumented and now deprecated?) core function in OpenAL, that that would warrant a .so version name change. I don't think the other symbols with decoration should warrant a soname change; like OpenGL, OpenAL extension discovery should be done at runtime to cope with renderers that don't provide all extensions; changing the major version because a particular extension was dropped would punish apps that correctly check extensions at runtime. cheers Ben -- Scenery Home Page: http://scenery.x-plane.com/ Scenery blog: http://xplanescenery.blogspot.com/ Plugin SDK: http://www.xsquawkbox.net/xpsdk/ X-Plane Wiki: http://wiki.x-plane.com/ Scenery mailing list: x-plane-scen...@yahoogroups.com Developer mailing list: x-plane-...@yahoogroups.com -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
Yes, they can. I see no reason why libopenal.so.0 and libopenal.so.1 cannot both exist. Some minor patching may be required for configuration file paths (I believe the libraries both use the same path/files in /etc but have different expectations about the contents of them) directhex, you seem far more familiar with them than I. Are there any reasons why my suggestion is impractical/impossible? -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
The following exported symbols were removed between the final openal package, and first openal-soft package: alBombOnError_LOKI alBufferAppendData alBufferAppendData_LOKI alBufferAppendWriteData_LOKI alBufferDataWithCallback_LOKI alBufferi_LOKI alBufferWriteData_LOKI alCaptureDestroy_EXT alCaptureGetData_EXT alCaptureInit_EXT alCaptureStart_EXT alCaptureStop_EXT alcGetAudioChannel_LOKI alcSetAudioChannel_LOKI alGenStreamingBuffers_LOKI alReverbDelay_LOKI alReverbScale_LOKI alutLoadMP3_LOKI alutLoadVorbis_LOKI Clearly, whilst X-Plane might not use these symbols, the old LOKI Software games will - which is precisely why symlinking sonames is wrong. -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
Is it worth repackaging libopenal0 for more recent releases? Can libopenal0 and libopenal1 live alongside each other? -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
This broke Gish (http://www.chroniclogic.com/gish.htm) for me earlier today. Adding a symlink fixed it. To me, as a user, this is a regression and a serious bug. I don't care at all how many symlinks I have in /usr/lib32. I care when Ubuntu's packaging breaks my software. Please re-open. It's a trivial fix. -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
For what it's worth, no one ever posted a clear explanation of _why_ the .so major version was bumped to this bug. Given that users continue to work around this by sym-linking, it certainly _appears_ that the ABI of OpenAL is unchanged. Can anyone point to at least one routine in the ABI that was modified, added or removed? -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
I think it's important to note however, that this is NOT an Ubuntu- specific issue. Other distros are making the same migration (and are doing it the same sudden-transition way). While I think that the only reasons to REPLACE one library with the other is few shared files in /etc, I think there is no reason why the old code cannot be patched to look at a different file(s). There's two different ways this can be fixed: 1. Fix it on the distro/packaging side 2. Fix it on the application side I vote that #1 is the proper solution. If libqt was dropped when libqt4 was added, I think there would be a lot more noise... but it's nearly the same problem. We need a graceful transition, not an all-or-nothing approach as is being implemented now. That said, Pre 1.1 openal development has ceased. Applications still being worked on (like x-plane) should notice this and do what they need to do to keep current. I'm not saying anyone is doing this, but lets try to avoid stonewalling. Being inflexible doesn't help anyone. If I could code worth anything, I would have a go at fixing the issue myself. I hope there is someone out there with the skills and motivation. And, taking a probably naive view, I don't see how this is an issue on the application side itself. Unless there are dirty kludges involved, it shouldn't be very hard to find and adjust any calls to a given set of functions. Why is there such resistance to 'porting' the code to the new version? If it really is that hard, then I would say someone is doing something wrong. Take that with some salt, since I likely don't know what I'm talking about. Now... bickering aside. Why is it specifically that the old library cannot be provided side-by-side? It makes no sense to me. Is it the config file conflict in /etc? As mentioned earlier, this (probably) should be something even I can fix. The specification to use that file is stored somewhere. Even MS 'notepad' can do a find/replace. I sincerely hope there's more to this than laziness or stubbornness. -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
Thanks for all the swift resposnes. Ben: while 930 Beta might look for both libraries, the X-Plane Updater itself only looks for .0 - so actually updating to 930 Beta is not possible without working around this via a symlink, for example -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
Hi Everyone, I am the other Linux guy...first, to be clear: Regardless of what happens with any distro, we (LR) have altered our OpenAL support to dynamically load either version of libopenal in our master code - over time all live apps will end up supporting either distro. Maróy, the next cut of the installer (2.06) should fix this when it comes out. It is actually a bit silly that the installer links to libopenal.so.0 at all - this is a result of shared makefiles, not a design requirement. Draeath, you ask a good question here: why do we not just patch our apps (or why are we making so much noise since we already have done the work for the patch). In our case there are a few issues: 1. If there really is an ABI change, there is a risk that our change (to simply load either version of the lib) isn't correct. This is the practical reason why I keep asking what changed. (The impractical reason is my own sense of wonder as a developer of binary apps that the lib changed.) 2. Since X-Plane 8 is no longer being developed, change the code isn't a very good solution for us. From our perspective as developers of a binary application that is ported onto Linux, if apps stop working due to later changes in standard APIs for some distros, it means an additional cost of development (in that we have to be in maintenance mod for an app for as long as distros are coming out). (Compatibility problems like this do creep in on Mac/Win, but on a much slower time scale.) 3. Other distros are making this change...unfortunately the total rate of change across all distros is very uneven...we first started hearing about this a while ago and there are still users running the sim who are on distros that are not making this change (not to mention users who are not updating their distros). The shear of having the change not come uniformly means we had to do a dynamic linking solution - dropping support for all distros still on libopenal.so.0 was not an option for us. Thus I reiterate my initial point: openAL is (in theory) a standard - like OpenGL, it should not be necessary to change the version of the .so even if the underlying implementation is 100% changed. We link against ATI and NV implementations of the GL without multiple .so versions, because the API and ABI are standard. It seems to me that libOpenAL should be in that category, so there should not be an app-perceivable change from the creative to the new implementation! cheers Ben Ákos Maróy wrote: Thanks for all the swift resposnes. Ben: while 930 Beta might look for both libraries, the X-Plane Updater itself only looks for .0 - so actually updating to 930 Beta is not possible without working around this via a symlink, for example -- Scenery Home Page: http://scenery.x-plane.com/ Scenery blog: http://xplanescenery.blogspot.com/ Plugin SDK: http://www.xsquawkbox.net/xpsdk/ X-Plane Wiki: http://wiki.x-plane.com/ Scenery mailing list: x-plane-scen...@yahoogroups.com Developer mailing list: x-plane-...@yahoogroups.com -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
what did the X-Plane people say? it seems that the latest X-Plane is still trying to load libopenal.so.0 ... -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
Hi, We have programmed the 930 beta of X-Plane to look for BOTH libopenal .so.1 and .so.0, because half the distros we support have changed the lib version and half have not. We continue to want to know (and still have not been told) in what way the ABI changed that warranted a reversioning of the library. We are _not_ changing old versions of X-Plane that have been closed. Our users often symlink openal to get around that. Since the simlink works, it appears to us that there are not real binary ABI changes, hence our asking what really changed. cheers Ben Ákos Maróy wrote: what did the X-Plane people say? it seems that the latest X-Plane is still trying to load libopenal.so.0 ... -- Scenery Home Page: http://scenery.x-plane.com/ Scenery blog: http://xplanescenery.blogspot.com/ Plugin SDK: http://www.xsquawkbox.net/xpsdk/ X-Plane Wiki: http://wiki.x-plane.com/ Scenery mailing list: x-plane-scen...@yahoogroups.com Developer mailing list: x-plane-...@yahoogroups.com -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
Akos to accurately descripe what X-Plane people say: 1. When I contacted Austin Meyer about this, he declared that I did not know how busy he is 2. He said he did'nt care if the bug I reported to him existed or not, since his Linux support guy falsely claimed there was no problem and he didnt want to spend the time to figure out who was right 3. He said he had far more important things to do than support Ubuntu I have since received no emails about other bugs I have reported. By contrast, the open source flight sim project has been a wonderful partner and has actively engaged on quality issues with running their app on Ubuntu. -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
nullack, There are two of us on the X-Plane team here watching this bug. I am one of the Linux support guys; I have received no e-mail from you, so I will assume that you talked to Ben, who posted earlier. Ben also knows, though, that there is in fact a problem. We are actively working to make X-Plane work better under Linux, and so we're following this issue here. If you need support with X-Plane, please send an e-mail to Randy (not to Austin directly), at i...@x-plane.com; Austin is, in fact, very busy, and not actively engaged with Linux technical support. We'd like to engage our users and the Ubuntu community in making X-Plane a better product, but we can't do that unless issues are filed to us through the correct channels. (I digress, though; the Launchpad bug tracker for Ubuntu also isn't the correct forum for this!) In any event, I still think that there should be no harm in shipping both versions (libopenal0a and libopenal1) in different packages, just as Ubuntu does for liblua, libqt, and I'm sure countless other libraries. Thanks, joshua -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
This may be a dupe - or that one is a dupe to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/323745 Confirming that the developers of third party programs need to change their code? If so, is the 1 version a Drop-in for the ) and all they have to do is rename their link in their code? Regardless I will pass this along to the X-Plane folks -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
Hi Y'all, Could someone please tell me what binary functionality has been changed/removed from libopenal with this change? I understand that the implementation has been changed radically. But OpenAL is an API for general access to abstract sound hardware. So...what _can't_ I do with libopenal.so.1 that I _can_ do with libopenal.so.0? - Are there any APIs whose names have changed, been removed, or whose arguments have shifted? If so, what? - Did the method of translating an API to an ABI change with this DLL? - Is it simply the case that there are OpenAL extensions that are now no longer present? (In the last case, it would be wrong for apps to link to OpenAL extensions - they should clearly be accessed with dlsym or something like it.) I ask for two reasons: 1. If an API or ABI really changed, then simply linking against libopenal.so.1 (or dlopening whatever is on the disk) will not be enough, because something is different. 2. We have users who are simply symlinking a fake libopenal.so.0 from libopenal.so.1 and they claim it works. We can update our current products, but not ones that are out of development, so we need to know if this work-around makes any sense. If the conclusion of this bug is ABI changed, apps must recompile, someone please post a link to whatever it is that changed! /ben -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
/usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 coexists perfectly well with /usr/lib/libopenal.so.1 There is no reason to remove this package completely. Simply putting the files there from an earlier Ubuntu version makes applications (that may be impossible to fix, as you well know) happy. While we are at it, lets remove awesfx like Fedora did. That's obsolete as well... nevermind that it's still needed, as libopenal.so.0 still is. -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
Hi, no, libopenal0a (as in the creative variant) is obsolete, and won't come back. The right thing is to recompile 3rd party applications against the openal-soft. In case for binary only stuff, it would imho be better to dlopen system libraries instead of linking against it anyways (or link statically against these). But this is s.th. we can't solve in Ubuntu. - marking as won't fix. Cheers, Stefan. ** Changed in: openal-soft (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
What changed in this version of the ABI? This seems to me like it should be left open for the alternate fix (i.e., leaving an libopenal0a package around). -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
** Changed in: openal-soft (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = New -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
** Tags added: regression-potential -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
Moving status to confirmed. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/$ sudo find -name libopenal.s* [sudo] password for nullack: ./usr/lib/libopenal.so.1 ./usr/lib/libopenal.so ./usr/lib/libopenal.so.1.3.253 ./usr/lib32/libopenal.so.1 ./usr/lib32/libopenal.so.1.3.253 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/$ sudo apt-cache policy libopenal1 libopenal1: Installed: 1:1.3.253-4ubuntu1 Candidate: 1:1.3.253-4ubuntu1 Version table: *** 1:1.3.253-4ubuntu1 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status ** Changed in: openal-soft (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 273558] Re: /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid
Marking as invalid. It has been explained that the ABI for OpenAL changed which necessitated the naming change. Packages in the Intrepid repos have been rebuilt for the new library. It is recommended that upstream projects not in the repos follow suit. ** Changed in: openal-soft (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 missing from Intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/273558 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
