[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
** Changed in: metacity (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) = (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 Title: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/29560/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
** Changed in: metacity Importance: Unknown = Wishlist -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
i hope Pranav Mistry's F/OSS work will be included in this lovely Ayatana project, before he goes Nobel Prize.. -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
Was going to report this. In my case i have the movie player open and nautilus in the background, i would like to drag and drop several movies in the playlist of movie player without losing focus on movie player. In this case movie player is in the front and nautilius is maximized and in the background but when i click on it to drag the movies a loose focus of movie player. -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
** Project changed: dead-ayatana = hundredpapercuts -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
Won't Fix in papercuts , but is tagged ayatana to be overseen in Ayatana project ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Invalid = Won't Fix ** Tags added: ayatana -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
** Changed in: ayatana Status: New = Invalid -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
delay the gain of the focus a couple of ms when drag is not an option? -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
There was a post on the gnome developer blog about why this is a harder problem than it appears. http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/2008/06/11/drag-and-drop/ For the record this is a very, very longstanding problem in both gnome (metacity, specifically) and KDE, and it isn't as simple as it seems. -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
Hi, My bug #388247 was marked as a duplicate of this one. However, I do not believe that mine is actually a duplicate. This bug, #296560, talks about a situation where people drag from a lower window to an upper window. Then the lower window steals focus when it should not do so. That is the opposite of my bug. My bug is not about stealing focus at a bad time. It's about not stealing focus when it should be stolen. Let's say I want to drag something from an upper window to a lower one. The lower window is currently obscured by upper windows. While my drag is hovering over the lower window, that lower window should steal focus, so that I can aim my drag at a specific folder or spot in that (formerly) lower window. Also, if I continue to drag around, any window I hover over for more than a short amount of time should steal focus. If this explanation isn't clear, please don't hesitate to ask for clarification. Thanks. -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
@Apreche, I agree that your bug is not a duplicate of this one. It is similar but not the same. Yours is a longstanding gnome bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132339 This gnome bug is cited near the end of the gnome developer blog post I linked to above. ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #132339 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132339 -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
Added this to the ayatana project , as this merits some more attention. There have been several papercuts asking for a fix . Fixing this will bring more easy of use for drag'n'drop. ** Also affects: ayatana Importance: Undecided Status: New -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
*ease-of-use -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
thanks for the excellent article ;) -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
here's the respective bugzilla page for the associated meta-bug; http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133047 it's called: Bug 133047 – Fix and improve focus handling and DnD i don't understand the part, why the information about DnD or not DnD operation is so crucial. Doesn't it suffice to assign behaviour via MouseButtonDown and MouseButtonRelease events? let's hope this issue will be resolved soon, since i hear that fluxbox already handles this and it has been around for so long in gnome... -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
frederik.nnaji: I covered this in the article: What isn’t a solution * Always raising the lower window only on release, not on click (suggested by many people). This would solve the problem at the cost of weirding everyone out, not just breaking the expectations of existing Metacity users and users from other window managers in the world of free software, but also the expectations of Mac and Windows people. There are *no* other systems I'm aware of which behave this way. The Mac doesn't, Windows doesn't, Metacity doesn't, and nor does any other WM. It would solve this one problem at the cost of introducing a much larger problem. -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
Do you know for sure that fluxbox handles this? If so, I could read their code or ask their developers to find out how. (It's not that we don't know how to do this-- we know lots of ways to do this, none of them very good. What's needed is a standard way.) -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
oops.. my bad. yeah, sounds conclusive to me, a scalable solution for a problem of scale.. let's see what shuttleworth's people will come up with.. i'm optimistic about the matter.. as long as somebody has a proper severety level assigned to the problem, it should work out in time. On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Thomas Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know for sure that fluxbox handles this? If so, I could read their code or ask their developers to find out how. (It's not that we don't know how to do this-- we know lots of ways to do this, none of them very good. What's needed is a standard way.) -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in The Metacity Window Manager: Confirmed Status in metacity source package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Open a nautilus window and xmms. maximize natilus. Bring xmms on top (activate it). Nautilus is now on the background, yet some files are visible within it, because xmms does not cover it completely. Now, a natural action is to drag a file to xmms playlist. This is not possible because, as soon as you click the file in the nautilus window, nautilus goes on top and (being maximized) hides xmms. So, the only way to drag is to hover the tasklist and reactivate xmms. IMHO, a much better way exists (the one employed by MS. Windows): the nautilus window should go on top only when the mouse is _released_ (not when it is pressed). So a direct drag would be possible, without resorting to the tasklist. -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
Here we go: http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/2008/06/11/drag-and-drop/ I learned quite a lot myself writing that! -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
I think the importance of this bug should be higher than Wishlist because it's a big usability issue for a such common thing. Is there anything that ubuntu developers could do to accelerate the resolution of this bug upstream? Thanks -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
@perfran: I'll write a page on blogs.gnome.org later explaining the rather complicated current state of play. -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
Thank you Thomas -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
** Changed in: metacity (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
Also found this upstream bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76672 Brainstorm idea link: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/2567/ ** Tags added: drag drop focus raise -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/29560 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 29560] Re: drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released
** Changed in: metacity (upstream) Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- drag drop improvement: delay bringing window to front until mouse released https://launchpad.net/bugs/29560 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
