[Bug 298480] Re: Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window
** Changed in: kde-baseapps Status: Unknown => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/298480 Title: Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kde-baseapps/+bug/298480/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 298480] Re: Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window
Launchpad has imported 9 comments from the remote bug at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185140. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2009-02-21T17:14:53+00:00 Johnathon wrote: Version:(using KDE 4.2.0) OS:Linux Installed from:I Don't Know Originally posted on Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/298480 Summary: Konsole should not close background apps (processes called by command ) upon closing konsole window. To reproduce: Open console Type in kate Close konsole window Kate window also closes Currently, gnome-terminal supports this feature. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/298480/comments/5 On 2009-03-10T20:15:08+00:00 Matthew Woehlke wrote: ...then gnome-terminal is broken. Allowing jobs to run after the parent dies is creating orphans. (Whether gnome-terminal fails to shut down the shell in this case, or has a misfeature to detect still-running jobs and disown them, neither is a good idea.) To understand why this is bad, consider if the child process is a CLI program that needs an associated tty; you now have a child running that is useless but can't be stopped except by searching the system process list for it and using 'kill'. Neither the shell nor the terminal emulator should be second-guessing the user this way. Fortunately, there are already ways to indicate that you wish a child process to ignore termination of the parent. The canonical way is 'nohup'. In bash, it's often easier to 'disown' such children (especially if you forgot to use 'nohup' to start the child), i.e. 'kate disown'. (Having said that, it would be nice if konsole would integrate detachable sessions, mainly so that crashes wouldn't take out all my shell sessions, but that's a different issue.) @Robert: I'm closing this WONTFIX. Obviously as the maintainer you can decide that's wrong :-), but IMO fixing the bug exactly as written would be broken. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/298480/comments/6 On 2009-03-10T23:08:16+00:00 Robert Knight wrote: No, I agree with the reporter about what I expect to happen - and it does for me. If I start a Konsole session, run kate and quit the session and also Konsole then Kate stays running as I expect. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/298480/comments/7 On 2009-03-10T23:09:10+00:00 Robert Knight wrote: Also, about accidentally exiting with running jobs - the shell will, depending on its current settings, warn you about that. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/298480/comments/8 On 2009-03-10T23:12:18+00:00 Robert Knight wrote: I was able to reproduce. Normally I close tabs by pressing Ctrl+D to tell the shell to exit - in this case, kate stays running in the 'background'. If on the other hang I put kate in the background and close Konsole via File - Close Window then Kate exits. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/298480/comments/9 On 2009-03-12T00:07:20+00:00 Matthew Woehlke wrote: Right, I had no trouble reproducing, but I don't see how you can fix it other than to either a: not sighup bash, or b: rely on detecting bash complaining about stopped jobs, or... Eew. I tried your way; apparently on EOF, bash happily disowns anything in the background without warning? That feels icky. Ah, well, I guess the solution then is that Konsole should always try to kill shells with EOF before resorting to SIGHUP. I'm still not sure how I feel about that, though; what if I am running a process where EOF will cause something to happen that I don't want, but SIGHUP would be fine? (Meanwhile, I have asked Chet if this is desired behavior. Alas, I would have to install another shell to check if this is typical.) Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/298480/comments/10 On 2009-03-12T23:06:10+00:00 Matthew Woehlke wrote: Hmm... well, I still don't really like this behavior, but Chet has spoken: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.shells.bash.bugs/12602. So according to him, Konsole should send EOF when anything (tab or whole app) is closed nicely. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/298480/comments/11
[Bug 298480] Re: Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window
** Changed in: kdebase Importance: Unknown = Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/298480 Title: Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 298480] Re: Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window
Hello there, Kubuntu currently does not have the manpower necessary to implement this feature as a distribution, so we are closing this report. Worry not, though, because your wish item is still being tracked by KDE at http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185140 . Once KDE implements this feature, we will include it in the Kubuntu release which contains the KDE version the feature was implemented in. Thanks for understanding, and have a nice day. ** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/298480 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 298480] Re: Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window
** Changed in: kdebase Status: New = Confirmed -- Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/298480 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 298480] Re: Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window
** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/298480 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 298480] Re: Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window
Attaching to upstream bug ** Changed in: kdebase Importance: Undecided = Unknown Bugwatch: None = KDE Bug Tracking System #185140 Status: New = Unknown -- Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/298480 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 298480] Re: Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window
** Changed in: kdebase Status: Unknown = New -- Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/298480 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 298480] Re: Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window
Testing Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4.2 Beta2, the problem persists. -- Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/298480 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 298480] Re: Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window
I noticed this too in intrepid (KDE 4.1.3, Konsole 2.1). Previous versions of Konsole (KDE 3.x) didn't behave like this. -- Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/298480 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 298480] Re: Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window
I can confirm this. Probably should be requested upstream. ** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist Status: New = Confirmed ** Also affects: kdebase Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Konsole should not terminate background processes upon closing konsole window https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/298480 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
