[Bug 324674] Re: ***core system*** UNIX level bug

2009-02-03 Thread Marc Deslauriers
Thanks for reporting this issue, but the fact that the root user has
full control over the system is not a bug, or a security issue. I would
suggest not running as root and to use the sudo command when specific
actions are needed to be taken as the root user.

In order to compromise the init scripts, you need to have root
privileges, so that is not an attack vector.

Marking this bug as invalid.

** Changed in: ubuntu
   Status: New = Invalid

** This bug is no longer flagged as a security issue

** Visibility changed to: Public

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Re: [Bug 324674] Re: ***core system*** UNIX level bug

2009-02-03 Thread darkraven
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ok.lets compromise YOUR linux box and we'll see if that same statement
RINGS true.how about the CORPORATE  unix box,eh?

'sudo' does NOT ELIMINATE the ISSUE at hand.And yes, it is an attack
vector  or I wouldn't have been able to do it so easily.all you need is
access to /lib or /etc and a person like me [average user] can take down
a whole system in SECONDS.No, not with rm -f, either.The /lib issue,even
after TWO solid days of hacking back in, cannot be fixed. believe me,
you WILL need   console access to get back in.

root has whole system access, GIVEN. HOWEVER, there is TOO LOOSE a
system if you allow root to corrupt it.I am asking to lockdown only
those parts of the OS considered VITAL to running it.

IE: base filesytem [as installed],drivers

/etc would have to be in there as well, as without that, there goes your
firewall.

ever taken down a copy of win98 or 3.1 [by accident] and notice how easy
it is to do?linux isn't that much more difficult.believe me, I use SAFE
linux practices.SHIT HAPPENS.

the more you can prevent [SHIT] from happening the happier we ALL are.If
you have EVER installed debain, as stable as it is, you will notice from
time to time when your system DOES go down, it takes quite a while to
get it back, even after a reinstall.

Time is MONEY.

but, you know, do what you want, what do I know???


Marc Deslauriers wrote:
 Thanks for reporting this issue, but the fact that the root user has
 full control over the system is not a bug, or a security issue. I would
 suggest not running as root and to use the sudo command when specific
 actions are needed to be taken as the root user.
 
 In order to compromise the init scripts, you need to have root
 privileges, so that is not an attack vector.
 
 Marking this bug as invalid.
 
 ** Changed in: ubuntu
Status: New = Invalid
 
 ** This bug is no longer flagged as a security issue
 
 ** Visibility changed to: Public
 
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