[Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-06-08 Thread Bryce Harrington
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 321613 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/321613

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 321613
   9100m G   card (for acer aspire 4350)

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[Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-06-06 Thread Asif Youssuff
I'm running Karmic, and I'm getting similar issues. Logfiles attached.

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[Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-05-08 Thread udippel
Mainly FYI, and to Bryce:
I am in a similar situation, with an IGP 8300.
No, mine is worse: all proprietary drivers crash (- I took it up with NVIDIA), 
nv does not support this card (10de0848).
So I was betting on nouveau, but it doesn't do the job here, neither.

Uwe,
who could be helped by a vesa solution for 1600x1200, 85 Hz; somehow it ends me 
at 60 Hz, despite a modline.


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[Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-05-08 Thread Gaetan Nadon
udippel,

There is a range of motherboard GPUs (C73/C77/C79) that are not
supported by the nv driver. I see 2 options for you to try with a Live
CD so as not to disturb your system:

1) Add the 10DE0848 id in /usr/share/xserver-xorg/pci/nv.ids file and restart 
X. The nv driver may support it after all.
This line in the log should go away: (II) No matches found for this device in 
/usr/share/xserver-xorg/pci

2) Install the current nvidia.com 180.51 driver which list your GPU as
supported. Very important instructions are in
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual. On second thought, I am
not sure you can do this one on a Live CD as I think there is a kernel
module involved. I have installed and uninstalled this driver a few
times with no problems.

To restart X (you can't reboot from a Live CD) use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
(pre 9.04) or Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a terminal and then '/etc/init.d/gdm
restart'. Do not edit the xorg.conf file to use or stop using the nv
driver.

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[Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-30 Thread Gaetan Nadon
I suspect the alpha code has not handled the situation correctly. I have
reproduced the upgrade scenario with 9.04 Beta March 26 and everything
works rock solid.

Scenario:
Upgrading from Intrepid to jaunty when using a restricted driver (177) with a 
card having a missing device id in nv.ids. 

What happened is exactly what you wished for: jaunty is running with the
restricted driver at level 180 (not 177) which is the recommended level
for jaunty. I removed the restricted driver and it works as expected: no
device id, so the nv driver does not load and reverts back to vesa
driver. I always have a working desktop.

Scenario:
Running jaunty without restricted driver, add Driver = nvidia in the Device 
section of xorg.conf. 

This simulates situations where either user edited the conf file or some script 
messed it up or a user reinstated a bad backup file. The files for the 
restricted driver and kernel module are physically not installed, but X org 
will try to load it anyway.
You will be prompted by a dialog asking you what to do, as it can't load the 
desktop. Looking it the log file, you will see:
   (II) LoadModule: nvidia
   (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia
   (II) UnloadModule: nvidia
   (EE) Failed to load module nvidia (module does not exist, 0)
   (EE) No drivers available.
You can chose to run the desktop in low graphic mode.

Now, from a bug report triage point of view, I'll confirm the bug. I am not 
sure how development handle alpha code bugs, perhaps FixReleased if they feel 
comfortable it has been fixed.
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[Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-28 Thread Marc Kaplan
Good news, and so-so news.

It would seem as though you were right that installing the restricted
driver would solve. this.

As root, I followed the instructions here:

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-965741.html

sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk

And install the first one that comes up.

I am now staring at my GNOME interface once again.

However, what I am confused about is that I was already running one of
the restricted drivers BEFORE I upgraded to Jaunty.  When did it revert
back to -nv instead of trying to use the same driver or look to see if
there was an upgrade available in the restricted repository?

Is there any way that can be added to the upgrade process to prevent
this happening to others in the future?

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[Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-25 Thread Gaetan Nadon
Additional information from Bug 321613
My 9100m G card doesn't work with vanilla nv, but works fine when I add the 
line:
  { 0x10DE0844, GeForce 9100M G },
to the end of the list in nv_driver.c (and recompile, of course :) 

There is still the option of installing nvidia.com driver 177 or 180.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual

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Re: [Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-25 Thread Marc Kaplan
Did you actually physically have to write geforce 9100, or just the
id.  I just added the id but did not reconpile, only restarted.  How
do I re-compile?

On 3/25/09, Gaetan Nadon mems...@videotron.ca wrote:
 Additional information from Bug 321613
 My 9100m G card doesn't work with vanilla nv, but works fine when I add the
 line:
   { 0x10DE0844, GeForce 9100M G },
 to the end of the list in nv_driver.c (and recompile, of course :) 

 There is still the option of installing nvidia.com driver 177 or 180.
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual

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[Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-25 Thread Gaetan Nadon
I am not familiar enough with development on Linux to guide you through
the easy way of doing this. Keep in mind you will now have to maintain
the new object code you created, it will most likely break on the next
update of xorg or kernel. Everyone will have a different opinion on
this, I think installing nvidia.com driver would be considered by most
as a lower level of difficulty compared to compiling.

I would read-up on both ways before making a decision. Neither solution
is officially supported by Ubuntu, your best avenue for support is the
forum, which often has proven to be gold.

Have you tried to delete xorg.conf and reboot? From what I understand,
at least the vesa driver should give you a desktop. Given that it works
on live cd, you can't be that far from a working solution. You could
also reinstall, having backed-up your data first. All depends on if/why
you need to be on an alpha version.

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Re: [Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-25 Thread Marc Kaplan
If it can be avoided, I would prefer not reinstalling the whole
distro.  It is dual booting with vista, sharing a data partition.

Essentially what would be the best, quickest,  easiest, and least time
consuming process to get back up and running AND help get a fix so
this doesn't happen to other people who upgrade to the beta or release
candidate.

On 3/25/09, Gaetan Nadon mems...@videotron.ca wrote:
 I am not familiar enough with development on Linux to guide you through
 the easy way of doing this. Keep in mind you will now have to maintain
 the new object code you created, it will most likely break on the next
 update of xorg or kernel. Everyone will have a different opinion on
 this, I think installing nvidia.com driver would be considered by most
 as a lower level of difficulty compared to compiling.

 I would read-up on both ways before making a decision. Neither solution
 is officially supported by Ubuntu, your best avenue for support is the
 forum, which often has proven to be gold.

 Have you tried to delete xorg.conf and reboot? From what I understand,
 at least the vesa driver should give you a desktop. Given that it works
 on live cd, you can't be that far from a working solution. You could
 also reinstall, having backed-up your data first. All depends on if/why
 you need to be on an alpha version.

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[Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-24 Thread Gaetan Nadon
Marc,
To answer your question in bug 320671 (my apologies for having misspelled your 
name), the 9100M G motherboard GPU is not supported by the driver. 
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9100m_g_mgpu_us.html 
I am not an expert, but I'll share my experience. I have just installed a new 
nvidia card (gts 250) that was released this month. It's not officially 
supported by anyone, not even nvidia has a driver for it on Linux. However I am 
able to get that card working on both 8.04 and 8.10 using official Ubuntu 
documentation. 

All devices on the PCI bus have ids so the driver can make decisions. The ids 
are located in X.org nv_driver.c. Your GPU id is 0x10de0844 where 10de 
identifies nvidia and 0844 identifies the 9100M G chipset. Your 0844 id and my 
0615 id both aren't there.  If you run lspci -n you should get something like 
this: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0844. Run lspci -v -s 01:00.0 and you get more 
details, such as:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0844 
(prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
This means the card is not recognized. The driver may ignore this can and the 
card may work as it is the case for me on 8.04. The driver may decide to quit 
if it knows that it is not capable of handling the card. This is what it seems 
to happen in your case (Ignoring unsupported device 0x10de0844).

You have 3 choices when it comes to drivers:
1) The default open source nv driver (2D only) maintained by Ubuntu
2) The binary restricted driver (offered by the restricted driver manager - 
nvidia-glx) which comes from nVidia but is packaged (but not supported) by 
Ubuntu. Driver 177 in Intrepid does support your card.
3) The binary nVidia driver obtained directly from nVidia.com which is shell 
script installed. This is not supported by Ubuntu

When booting a fresh install with a known GPU, the default nv driver is
always used. There are no cases where the restricted driver would be
used. If I understand your case correctly, the default nv driver just
does not work, the X server does not start and you have no desktop.
There may be a reason why the driver rejected your card, perhaps it
cannot handle a notebook GPU. It may be a programming error. My card was
erroneously recognized on Intrepid as another card.

When you have a desktop running using the nv driver (which is not your case) 
follow instructions:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia

When you want to install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com (seems to be your 
only choice) follow instructions:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
Driver 177 is recommended and it works for me, while the later driver 180 does 
not work. You will need to reinitialize the nvidia driver for each kernel 
upgrade.

Before you do any of this, try this simple action: backup and delete
/etc/X11/xorg.conf. It's empty on a fresh install and is generated when
booting. It may get the nv driver working. You said desktop was working
on Intrepid with default nv driver, and you said Jaunty live CD works
fine. That leaves only a migration problem in configuration scripts.

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Re: [Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-24 Thread Marc Kaplan
I think you hit on it that it might be a migration scripting issue.
When I was on intepid, I was using the restricted nvida driver (do not
remember which one), not -nv and 3D was working perfectly.  The
problem appears to have been that when I performed the dist-grade, it
might have reverted back to the -nv driver; not my intention at all.

I will try what you suggested when I get home, but why would it do
that instead of keeping the driver?  Is that by design as well?

Marc

On 3/24/09, Gaetan Nadon mems...@videotron.ca wrote:
 Marc,
 To answer your question in bug 320671 (my apologies for having misspelled
 your name), the 9100M G motherboard GPU is not supported by the driver.
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9100m_g_mgpu_us.html
 I am not an expert, but I'll share my experience. I have just installed a
 new nvidia card (gts 250) that was released this month. It's not officially
 supported by anyone, not even nvidia has a driver for it on Linux. However I
 am able to get that card working on both 8.04 and 8.10 using official Ubuntu
 documentation.

 All devices on the PCI bus have ids so the driver can make decisions. The
 ids are located in X.org nv_driver.c. Your GPU id is 0x10de0844 where 10de
 identifies nvidia and 0844 identifies the 9100M G chipset. Your 0844 id and
 my 0615 id both aren't there.  If you run lspci -n you should get something
 like this: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0844. Run lspci -v -s 01:00.0 and you get more
 details, such as:
 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0844
 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
 This means the card is not recognized. The driver may ignore this can and
 the card may work as it is the case for me on 8.04. The driver may decide to
 quit if it knows that it is not capable of handling the card. This is what
 it seems to happen in your case (Ignoring unsupported device 0x10de0844).

 You have 3 choices when it comes to drivers:
 1) The default open source nv driver (2D only) maintained by Ubuntu
 2) The binary restricted driver (offered by the restricted driver manager -
 nvidia-glx) which comes from nVidia but is packaged (but not supported) by
 Ubuntu. Driver 177 in Intrepid does support your card.
 3) The binary nVidia driver obtained directly from nVidia.com which is shell
 script installed. This is not supported by Ubuntu

 When booting a fresh install with a known GPU, the default nv driver is
 always used. There are no cases where the restricted driver would be
 used. If I understand your case correctly, the default nv driver just
 does not work, the X server does not start and you have no desktop.
 There may be a reason why the driver rejected your card, perhaps it
 cannot handle a notebook GPU. It may be a programming error. My card was
 erroneously recognized on Intrepid as another card.

 When you have a desktop running using the nv driver (which is not your
 case) follow instructions:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia

 When you want to install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com (seems to be your
 only choice) follow instructions:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
 Driver 177 is recommended and it works for me, while the later driver 180
 does not work. You will need to reinitialize the nvidia driver for each
 kernel upgrade.

 Before you do any of this, try this simple action: backup and delete
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf. It's empty on a fresh install and is generated when
 booting. It may get the nv driver working. You said desktop was working
 on Intrepid with default nv driver, and you said Jaunty live CD works
 fine. That leaves only a migration problem in configuration scripts.

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Re: [Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-24 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:29:16PM -, Gaetan Nadon wrote:
 You have 3 choices when it comes to drivers:
 1) The default open source nv driver (2D only) maintained by Ubuntu
 2) The binary restricted driver (offered by the restricted driver manager - 
 nvidia-glx) which comes from nVidia but is packaged (but not supported) by 
 Ubuntu. Driver 177 in Intrepid does support your card.
 3) The binary nVidia driver obtained directly from nVidia.com which is shell 
 script installed. This is not supported by Ubuntu

4) The -nouveau driver, which is still highly experimental but is our
   long term future hope
5) The -vesa driver, which is stable but very limited

I've learned recently that a number of PCIIDs are missing from -nv due
to differences between how Debian (and us) handle PCIIDs and how
upstream -nv is doing it.  Debian/Ubuntu expects them to be listed
explicitly, however upstream is using a wildcarding approach.

Since upstream is using the wildcarding approach, that sounds like the
way we should be doing it, however switching to that this late in the
release cycle may incur too large a risk of regression, so possibly the
safest/easiest thing would be for us to just collate the PCIIDs manually
ourselves.  I don't know how much time I'll have to do this before
release, so would greatly appreciate any assistance in tracking down
bugs like this one, that can be resolved by adding the PCIIDs.  If you
locate such bugs, please feel free to assign them to me to look at.
(It would help to make sure the title says something like 
...add support for cardname in them, as that'd clue me in.

Bryce

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Re: [Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-24 Thread Marc Kaplan
I will be more than happy to keep an eye for them in the bug list if
it will help you out and save people the same issues I have had.  I
hope my filing of this bug helped with your discover of this issue.

Should I take it from you comments that you would not like me to
attempt to fix this manually but rather wait until a patch has been
issued for this particular card?

On 3/24/09, Bryce Harrington br...@bryceharrington.org wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:29:16PM -, Gaetan Nadon wrote:
 You have 3 choices when it comes to drivers:
 1) The default open source nv driver (2D only) maintained by Ubuntu
 2) The binary restricted driver (offered by the restricted driver manager
 - nvidia-glx) which comes from nVidia but is packaged (but not supported)
 by Ubuntu. Driver 177 in Intrepid does support your card.
 3) The binary nVidia driver obtained directly from nVidia.com which is
 shell script installed. This is not supported by Ubuntu

 4) The -nouveau driver, which is still highly experimental but is our
long term future hope
 5) The -vesa driver, which is stable but very limited

 I've learned recently that a number of PCIIDs are missing from -nv due
 to differences between how Debian (and us) handle PCIIDs and how
 upstream -nv is doing it.  Debian/Ubuntu expects them to be listed
 explicitly, however upstream is using a wildcarding approach.

 Since upstream is using the wildcarding approach, that sounds like the
 way we should be doing it, however switching to that this late in the
 release cycle may incur too large a risk of regression, so possibly the
 safest/easiest thing would be for us to just collate the PCIIDs manually
 ourselves.  I don't know how much time I'll have to do this before
 release, so would greatly appreciate any assistance in tracking down
 bugs like this one, that can be resolved by adding the PCIIDs.  If you
 locate such bugs, please feel free to assign them to me to look at.
 (It would help to make sure the title says something like
 ...add support for cardname in them, as that'd clue me in.

 Bryce

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[Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-24 Thread Bryce Harrington
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-nv (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-24 Thread Bryce Harrington
Actually nevermind, I think I'll just keep an eye on the bug list
myself, but thanks for the help.

Regarding your own card, you should test it manually before we put in a
patch for it.  It's likely -nv simply will not work on your system, in
which case patching it in may not be the best solution.

To test it, edit /usr/share/xserver-xorg/pci/nv.ids and insert your
PCIID (10de0844) at the appropriate place, then restart your X server.
If the screen comes up and is at least marginally usable, let us know
and we can put the patch in for it.

** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-nv (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-nv (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Incomplete

** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-nv (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Bryce Harrington (bryceharrington) = (unassigned)

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Re: [Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-24 Thread Marc Kaplan
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Bryce Harrington
br...@bryceharrington.org wrote:
 o test it, edit /usr/share/xserver-xorg/pci/nv.ids and insert your
 PCIID (10de0844) at the appropriate place, then restart your X server.
 If the screen comes up and is at least marginally usable, let us know
 and we can put the patch in for it.

No such luck.  Adding it doesn't appear to have done anything.
Attached recent Xorg log after making the change.  Have not done
dist-upgrade today/


** Attachment added: Xorg.0.log
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Re: [Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-24 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 02:55:26AM -, Marc Kaplan wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Bryce Harrington
 br...@bryceharrington.org wrote:
  o test it, edit /usr/share/xserver-xorg/pci/nv.ids and insert your
  PCIID (10de0844) at the appropriate place, then restart your X server.
  If the screen comes up and is at least marginally usable, let us know
  and we can put the patch in for it.
 
 No such luck.  Adding it doesn't appear to have done anything.

Yep, I suspected as much.  Your pci id is far outside the regular range
so the card is probably far too new for -nv.

-nouveau is another option.  Otherwise you'll need to wait for -nvidia
to support it.

Bryce

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[Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-22 Thread Marc Kaplan
Most recent update of xserver-xorg-nv did not resolve this issue.  Most
recent Xorg.0.log attached.

** Attachment added: Xorg.0.log
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24229887/Xorg.0.log

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Re: [Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-14 Thread Marc Kaplan
I ran the live version of Alpha 6 and it ran on this same machine
without an issue.  Isn't there some way, and I'm sure this has been
discussed, that upon upgrading, that the proprietary drivers are
checked for compatibilty, and if they fail, an error comes up saying
that the driver is being turned off?  I don't know how hard it would
be, but based on all these errors with the new Xorg, I would think
this would be something common sense to add.

On 3/10/09, Bryce Harrington br...@bryceharrington.org wrote:
 According to the log, you're trying to use -nv on an unsupported video
 card.

 [0.528508] (WW) NV: Ignoring unsupported device 0x10de0844 (GeForce
 9100M G) at 0...@00:00:0


 ** Summary changed:

 - xserver will not start/no theme found for 1024x768
 + -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

 ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-nv (Ubuntu)
 Sourcepackagename: xorg = xserver-xorg-video-nv

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Re: [Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-10 Thread Marc Kaplan
Yes, I was using the nvidia driver because I had installed it within
Intrepid.  I upgrade to Jaunty from Intrepid, so it kept the driver.
I remember when installing Intrepid, it installed without the
proprietary driver.  Isn't there a way to supress the exisitng driver
during the upgrade process?  I attempted apt-get update and apt-get
dist-upgrade after receiving this notification, but it still would not
load gnome.  What can I do to start X windows?

On 3/10/09, Bryce Harrington br...@bryceharrington.org wrote:
 According to the log, you're trying to use -nv on an unsupported video
 card.

 [0.528508] (WW) NV: Ignoring unsupported device 0x10de0844 (GeForce
 9100M G) at 0...@00:00:0


 ** Summary changed:

 - xserver will not start/no theme found for 1024x768
 + -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

 ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-nv (Ubuntu)
 Sourcepackagename: xorg = xserver-xorg-video-nv

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[Bug 333040] Re: -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

2009-03-09 Thread Bryce Harrington
According to the log, you're trying to use -nv on an unsupported video
card.

[0.528508] (WW) NV: Ignoring unsupported device 0x10de0844 (GeForce
9100M G) at 0...@00:00:0


** Summary changed:

- xserver will not start/no theme found for 1024x768
+ -nv reports it does not support GeForce 9100M G

** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-nv (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: xorg = xserver-xorg-video-nv

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