[Bug 353002] Re: Add option to hide persistent notification icon and add support for the indicator-applet

2010-04-03 Thread trespasser
For Evolution there are actually two positions in the Indication Applet:
* Evolution Mail
* Inbox [number_of_unread_e-mails]

The first one runs the Evolution / opens Evolution window. The second
one does the same as the former but appears only when Evolution is
running (when Evolution's off there's a description string Read and
write emails instead). That's a waste of interface space, however, in
case of Ekiga, there can be:

- when Ekiga is off:
* Ekiga
* Talk to people over the internet

- when Ekiga is running:
* Ekiga

- when there's a call incoming (indicator applet changes colour and the sound 
is played):
* Ekiga (answer a call)
* Ekiga (decline a call)

If you don't consider the above solution (which works similar for
pidgin/telepathy) functional enough incoming call event can be treated
as a special dialogue box - whenever there's an incoming call and Ekiga
isn't in Do Not Disturb state, pop-up an Answer/Decline dialogue box
in the middle of the screen or under the system tray. That's the most
intuitive solution I can think of - don't know how much it bends the
rules of Gnome HIG. Doesn't seem to bend anything to me.

Cheers!

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[Bug 353002] Re: Add option to hide persistent notification icon and add support for the indicator-applet

2010-04-03 Thread Yannick Defais
Hi,

The notification system in Ubuntu has evolved. It seems the right tools for the 
job is a Morphing window.
For more details, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotificationDesignGuidelines

Feel free to propose a patch to upstream...

Best regards,
Yannick

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[Bug 353002] Re: Add option to hide persistent notification icon and add support for the indicator-applet

2009-09-09 Thread Pedro Villavicencio
We are closing this bug report because it lacks the information we need
to investigate the problem, as described in the previous comments.
Please reopen it if you can give us the missing information, and don't
hesitate to submit bug reports in the future. To reopen the bug report
you can click on the current status, under the Status column, and change
the Status back to New. Thanks again!.

** Changed in: ekiga (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Invalid

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[Bug 353002] Re: Add option to hide persistent notification icon and add support for the indicator-applet

2009-08-06 Thread Yannick Defais
Hi,

Is there a solution to choose action: Accept or refuse the call? Having
to click is several places to perform this action seems odd to me. Think
about Ekiga as a phone IRL, it should be simple to use and quick; people
calling wont wait too much for the user to figure out how to use the
desktop.

Marking this bug as incomplete.

Best regards,
Yannick

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   Status: New = Incomplete

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[Bug 353002] Re: Add option to hide persistent notification icon and add support for the indicator-applet

2009-05-11 Thread Robert Ancell
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   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

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[Bug 353002] Re: Add option to hide persistent notification icon and add support for the indicator-applet

2009-04-01 Thread Ken VanDine
This would indeed be very cool!

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[Bug 353002] Re: Add option to hide persistent notification icon and add support for the indicator-applet

2009-04-01 Thread Yannick Defais
Hello,

As far as I know, the Ubuntu philosophy about the indicator-applet is to
forbid any action. Thus you'll be notified about an incoming call, but
you wont be able to accept or refuse it.

Beside that, if there is no icon, how could you possibly show the main
window to the user to allow him to place a call?

Finally, the Gnome HIG allow persistant icon:
http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/desktop-notification-area.html.en
Only core GNOME programs may perpetually display an icon in the status area.

Best regards,
Yannick

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Re: [Bug 353002] Re: Add option to hide persistent notification icon and add support for the indicator-applet

2009-04-01 Thread Juha Siltala
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 14:27 +, Yannick Defais wrote:

 As far as I know, the Ubuntu philosophy about the indicator-applet is to
 forbid any action. Thus you'll be notified about an incoming call, but
 you wont be able to accept or refuse it.

The popup only shows you a notification and indeed does not allow any
action. but the indicator-applet is a separate panel applet which is
clickable and opens the recent message, allowing you to reply.

However, refusing a call would indeed be a problem that needs further
tought.

 Beside that, if there is no icon, how could you possibly show the main
 window to the user to allow him to place a call?

The indicator applet has a dropdown menu listing relevant applications
(currently Pidgin and Evolution) and allows you to open the main window
just like the persistent notification area icon does if enabled.

In effect, the applet's purpose is to consolidate all these persistent
icons into one.

 Finally, the Gnome HIG allow persistant icon:
 http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/desktop-notification-area.html.en
 Only core GNOME programs may perpetually display an icon in the status area.

It does allow this, although it's debatable if Ekiga is core gnome,
the concept of core is not clear to me here. What the HIG says clearly
is that the persistent icon should be optional, altough the core
concept appears there again.

Still, making the icon optional has not been a problem for Pidgin and
Gajim, which have UIs very similar to Ekiga.

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