[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-14 Thread Tom
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 119420 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119420

It's disappointing to see this has been marked a duplicate of an old
dead bug-report when so many people have shown an interest in this and
suggested much more advanced ideas.

Perhaps in some cases it'd be more relevant to mark the older empty one
as a duplicate of the one that has a wealth of ideas in it?

Regards to all from 
Tom :)

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-14 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 119420 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119420

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 119420
   Cannot edit a comment

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-14 Thread Craig Huffstetler
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 119420 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119420

I agree. I understand how the duplicate status works, but I think this
bug is where it's at. This is where a) the ideas are, b) the Answers
team member's are subscribed (initially, at least) and c) the comments
are.

I think this is where the primary discussion should take place. The
other bugs should be marked as duplicates.

** Also affects: launchpad-integration
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-14 Thread Craig Huffstetler
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 119420 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119420

I guess we can't add what we think it affects anymore either (I.E. add
Launchpad Foundations or Launchpad Bugs) since it is a duplicate.

I think Bug Control should revert the duplicate status as described
above by myself and Tom.

Sincerely,

Craig

** Also affects: launchpad-foundations
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Summary changed:

- Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies
+ Launchpad should allow reply editing and/or removal by user (without 
administrative intervention) for various reasons

** Description changed:

  I can edit the question but I can't edit the answer. Why you can edit
  the question and not the answers or replies?
  
  What if I'm doing e-shopping having also https://answers.launchpad.net/
  open. I'm copying and pasting my credit card number in the e-shop form,
  then suddenly my cat jump on my keyboard and the my credit card number
  is pasted in a answers.launchpad.net and the form is submmitted?
  
  What if I'm reporting a long log file excerpt with personal informations
  (like MAC addresses or passwords) and after removing almost all sensible
  informations and submitting the reply I realized that I missed the
  remove a single important personal information?
  
  Websites like stackoverflow.com allow you delete a reply for any reason
  without delay. Other sites wait some minutes before copying replies
  across the network (through mails) for decrease the information leak in
  case that the user changed his/her mind and decide to remove his/her
  post.
  
  Some jurisdiction like the Italian law about privacy says that the
  holder of personal data should be able to obtain the removal of any
  personal data without any unjustified delay (Dlgs 196/2003 Art. 7 and
  Art.8) http://www.camera.it/parlam/leggi/deleghe/Testi/03196dl.htm
  
  The law speaks about the removal of any data which is personal, not only
  data *too* personal.
  
  Maybe this something that it's true to all the EU. I'm not a lawyer. 
  From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_privacy_law :
  begin-of-wikipedia-excerpt
  The European Directive on Protection of Personal Data, released on July 25, 
1995 was an attempt to unify the laws on data protection within the European 
Community. As a result, customers of international organizations such as Amazon 
and eBay in the EU have the ability to review and delete information, while 
Americans do not.
  end-of-wikipedia-excerpt
  
  Isn't the law of country of the user that matters when a service is used
  across countries boundaries?
+ 
+ Update:
+ 
+ Based on responses: 
+ We also think think this change this affect not only Launchpad Answers, but 
also other systems, such as Launchpad Bugs. It would be handy to be able to 
edit and/or delete your *response* within a specific time-frame of posting in 
case of whatever response for whatever reason.

** Tags added: launchpad

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Re: [Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-11 Thread Bhavani Shankar
Yes tom +1 from me :)

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 A time factor addresses my concerns.  Often it's just after making a
 post that you immediately realise an error worth correcting, or
 something that should be usefully added (or deleted).

 Nice one Craig :)
 Regards all, from
 Tom :)

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-09 Thread Bhavani Shankar
I think its a real valid concern, affects me too :) setting the status
to confirmed...

** Changed in: launchpad-answers
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-09 Thread Tom
I think there is a concern that if everyone can change any posting
they've made in a thread then the answers that follow may not make or be
completely wrong or even damage someone's system if they are looking
through past questions to help solve their current problem.  Even a
subtle change in a nuance in a question might radically the answers
received.

I think that once people realise that it's a public forum and that their
postings cannot be altered it discourages flaming attacks and rudeness
hence encouraging a more family-friendly environment.

On the other hand there are clearly likely to be times when it would be
good to have a responsible moderator able to edit out certain things.

I've not seen any of the possible instances occur in all the time i have
spent in here and it's been my experience that moderated forums tend to
be quite unpleasant.  I think we should expect the level of maturity and
caution that we currently have and avoid falling into the traps that
this bug could lead us.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions
Regards from
Tom :)

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-09 Thread Martin Pool
It seems like this is not even specific to answers, but also bugs and
other places: you want a way for people to remove all data they posted,
which is not Launchpad's approach at present.

In practice, you can contact an admin through the link at the bottom of
any page and they will remove it.  So the question is just whether you
should be able to do it immediately without admin intervention.

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-09 Thread Craig Huffstetler
I agree, it is a valid concern around certain sections of Launchpad.

A timer could be initiated for submitted content, say 1 minute. I've
seen this on other sites (AJAX-y) where you are allowed to edit your
content or even delete it for X amount of time after you have submitted
it.

This would be a nice feature to have in Bugs and in Answers. I am not
very familiar with the other Launchpad Foundation systems, and their
interworkings, but I at least know they do apply to Launchpad Bug
Comments and Launchpad Answers (Comments, Answers, Information
Requests).

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-09 Thread Tom
A time factor addresses my concerns.  Often it's just after making a
post that you immediately realise an error worth correcting, or
something that should be usefully added (or deleted).

Nice one Craig :)
Regards all, from
Tom :)

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-08 Thread Andrea Francia
It's about answer not Ubuntu

** Changed in: ubuntu
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-08 Thread Andrea Francia
This would be a bug report about the launchpad.net website not about
Ubuntu. I don't know how to change the Affects field.

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-08 Thread Tom
** Package changed: ubuntu = launchpad-integration (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-08 Thread Andrea Francia
** Also affects: launchpad-answers
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-08 Thread Tom
It's the same as changing the status.  Something weird happened when i
tried changing the Affects thing and it wouldn't let me put it in the
right place but then somehow it's got both places showing lol.  Anyway,
at least it seems to be going to the right place (and where-ever i sent
it too!)

Apols, thanks, good luck and regards from
Tom :)

** Changed in: launchpad-integration (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid = New

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-08 Thread Sebastien Bacher
the issue is not a bug in the launchpad-integration ubuntu code which
adds menu entries to software

** Changed in: launchpad-integration (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: launchpad-integration (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 358017] Re: Answer doesn't allow you to remove replies

2009-04-08 Thread Tom
Sorry, thanks for fixing that Sebastien :)

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