[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2009-11-17 Thread Ubuntu QA Website
** Tags added: iso-testing

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2008-10-23 Thread LumpyCustard
Sorry to bring this up again, but I've just upgraded to Intrepid and
it's doing it again.

I have a Quadro FX 500/600 nVidia card

The driver that fixes this bug was released on 7th Oct 2008 (version
177). This, however is not available from the repos yet.

This is the changelog for version 177 (from 
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/linux_display_ia32_177.80_uk.html)
Updated mode validation, in cases when no EDID is detected, such that 1024x768 
@ 60Hz and 800x600 @ 60Hz are allowed, rather than just 640x480 @ 60Hz.

Was this the affecting bug?

Could we get this into Intrepid quickly?

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2008-01-24 Thread Bryce Harrington
I think we can now close this bug as fixed as of the Gutsy release.
While some resolution detection issues remain, they are uncommon and
typically unrelated to the original bug report, and of course should be
entered as their own bug reports.

For the 42 duplicates to this bug, I'm going to also assume our changes
in Gutsy fix them.  If not, please test against Hardy, and if it still
isn't fixed there, undupe the bug and we'll look into it further.

Thank you everyone for testing and verifying fixes as they were
developed for this bug.

** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Released

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2008-01-16 Thread Jacques-Louis KREISS
I encounter the same bug with a fresh install of Kubuntu Hardy Alpha 3.
I have a Fujitsu laptop with i945GMA video  and a 1280x800 LCD panel.

kdm appears with very big fonts, so I guess it uses a 640x480
resolution.

Attached is my Xorg.log

NB: the JHardy Alpha 3 LiveCd guessed the correct resolution.  When
installed,it once worked and now I have this resolution problem, without
me having changed anything (not even an update/upgrade).

** Attachment added: Xorg.0.log.txt
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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2008-01-16 Thread Timo Aaltonen
Don't guess, instead attach the output of 'xranrd'. Fonts being big
could be an issue with KDE at the moment.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2008-01-16 Thread Timo Aaltonen
uh, make that 'xrandr'..

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2008-01-16 Thread Jacques-Louis KREISS
I'm sorry. I think the resolution is correct. Only the fonts are very big when 
kdm launches.
Here is the result of xrandr:

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 800, maximum 1280 x 1280
VGA disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
LVDS connected 1280x800+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 289mm x 
21mm
   1280x800   60.1*+   60.0
   1280x768   60.0
   1024x768   60.0
   800x60060.3
   640x48059.9
TV disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

I think I'm not on the right bug ;-)

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-11-21 Thread blokeinlondon

Thanks very much Bryce

Here is the correct info

parse-edid: parse-edid version 1.4.1
get-edid: get-edid version 1.4.1

Performing real mode VBE call
Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f00 bx=0x0 cx=0x0
Function supported
Call successful

VBE version 300
VBE string at 0x0 NVidia

VBE/DDC service about to be called
Report DDC capabilities

Performing real mode VBE call
Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f15 bx=0x0 cx=0x0
Function supported
Call successful

Monitor and video card combination does not support DDC1 transfers
Monitor and video card combination supports DDC2 transfers
0 seconds per 128 byte EDID block transfer
Screen is not blanked during DDC transfer

Reading next EDID block

VBE/DDC service about to be called
Read EDID

Performing real mode VBE call
Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f15 bx=0x1 cx=0x0
Function supported
Call successful

parse-edid: EDID checksum passed.

# EDID version 1 revision 1
Section Monitor
# Block type: 2:0 3:fc
Identifier GATEWAY CS700
VendorName GWY
ModelName GATEWAY CS700
# Block type: 2:0 3:fc
# Block type: 2:0 3:fd
HorizSync 30-70
VertRefresh 50-120
# Max dot clock not given
# DPMS capabilities: Active off:yes  Suspend:yes  Standby:no

Mode800x600   # vfreq 85.061Hz, hfreq 53.674kHz
DotClock56.25
HTimings800 832 896 1048
VTimings600 601 604 631
Flags   +HSync +VSync
EndMode
Mode800x600   # vfreq 75.000Hz, hfreq 46.875kHz
DotClock49.50
HTimings800 816 896 1056
VTimings600 601 604 625
Flags   +HSync +VSync
EndMode
# Block type: 2:0 3:fc
# Block type: 2:0 3:fd
EndSection

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-11-20 Thread Bryce Harrington
blokeinlondon, the output of get-edid is binary data (thus the weird
characters).  You should run it like this:

 get-edid | parse-edid

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-11-16 Thread blokeinlondon
On my computer the get-edid command causes serious corruption see the
strange characters at the end of this comment maybe this helps.

 sudo get-edid
get-edid: get-edid version 1.4.1

Performing real mode VBE call
Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f00 bx=0x0 cx=0x0
Function supported
Call successful

VBE version 300
VBE string at 0x0 NVidia

VBE/DDC service about to be called
Report DDC capabilities

Performing real mode VBE call
Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f15 bx=0x0 cx=0x0
Function supported
Call successful

Monitor and video card combination does not support DDC1 transfers
Monitor and video card combination supports DDC2 transfers
0 seconds per 128 byte EDID block transfer
Screen is not blanked during DDC transfer

Reading next EDID block

VBE/DDC service about to be called
Read EDID

Performing real mode VBE call
Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f15 bx=0x1 cx=0x0
Function supported
Call successful

���Xv�(!�h�b�ZK�HO�B��EY� �0X  @6�V 1X
P6��GATEWAY CS700�2xF�

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-11-14 Thread Bryce Harrington
I'm dropping the priority of this from critical to high, because while
there are still some important resolution problems, it appears we've
solved the worst monsters.  Almost every article published about Ubuntu
Feisty included a mention of failure to detect resolution, but reviews
of Ubuntu Gutsy now days rarely mention X resolution problems.

** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Critical = High
   Status: Confirmed = In Progress

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-11-02 Thread blokeinlondon

I managed to fix (via workaround) for this problem by installing gutsy and then 
installing Envy.

Envy is not core ubuntu software it is written by some italian guy but
the code needs to be included Ubuntu as it solves a lot of monitor
configuration problems.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-11-02 Thread Checkmate
I found bug 115220 recently; looks like Bryce patched the aspect ratio
code on Oct. 17th.

Even with that patch, I still have to delete 1600x1200 from xorg.conf
to get X to start up. And then the maximum resolution is 1400x1050
instead of 1680x1050. I'm probably seeing the issue where the monitor's
highest resolution isn't available.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-31 Thread nat
Well I see this what I believe to be this bug with Gutsy but not
Drapper. And in Gutsy it affects all but text-mode: that is both
Graphical boot screen AND X, both in the live CD + when installed. Not
knowing how to override to a textmode install I had to used the live CD
by pushing Ctrl+Alt+Minus until I got a 320x2?0 screen that though
terribly distorted my monitor could display enough to be used. I have
Gutsy installed and X working after change the H/V ranges for X's
monitor, but have yet to fix and still have monitor out-of-sync issues
with ubuntu's boot screen.

I know my CRT doesn't support being queried, could this be due to a lack
of 'sane' defaults?

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-31 Thread nat
Oh and safe VGA mode on the CD had the same issues!

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-22 Thread Tony Pursell
The way I found to get the boot screen working was to install StartUp-
Manager and choose a new resolution there.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-21 Thread Tony Pursell
I wrote a few days ago to say that the Live CD works OK with my setup.
I have now upgraded my installed version from Feisty to Gutsy and have
found that the splash screen and boot progress bar does not display
because the monitor complains that the settings are out of range.  In
Feisty the work around for this was to add a vesa code to the boot
parameters in GRUB.  This no longer works.  Does the live CD use special
boot parameters for this to work?

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-20 Thread Checkmate
May I tell you about my own issue? It's not the Tecra 8000. The Tecra
8000 issue is a pleasant problem-solving exercise compared to this:

X.Org wrongly detects the screen resolutions available on my monitor. I
have an ATI Radeon X1900 XT connected to a ViewSonic VG2230wm monitor.
It's a widescreen flat panel; the native resolution is 1680x1050. Ubuntu
has to use the vesa driver. When I install Ubuntu or start the LiveCD
environment (or do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg), it puts
this stuff in /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Device  Generic Video Card
Monitor VG2230wm
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Modes 1680x1680 1680x1050 1600x1200 1440x1440 
1400x1050 1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 832x624 800x600 
720x400 640x640 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

Now wait, did I just say the native resolution was 1680x1050? I sure
did. So why are there mode lines like 1680x1680, 1600x1200, and
1440x1440 in here? I have no clue! But the graphical environment
refuses to start up, even in safe graphics mode. I have to manually
edit xorg.conf so that it looks like this:

Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Device  Generic Video Card
Monitor VG2230wm
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Modes   1680x1050 1400x1050 1280x1024 1280x960 
1152x864 1024x768 832x624 800x600 720x400 640x640 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

Then it works. It's a good thing I knew how to use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to reach a 
command console, use sudo vim to edit xorg.conf, and find the correct place 
in the file. A non-technical user might figure that out...if he was really, 
really, really desperate.
There is no bullet-proof X on Kubuntu. When I tried regular Ubuntu or Xubuntu, 
bullet-proof X didn't help at all. I could select a screen mode in a dialog 
box, but my settings seemed to have no effect.

I believe the problem is that the vesa driver goofs up parsing the
monitor's EDID data. Right now, I use the radeonhd driver, built from
the latest Git tree. It works perfectly fine for me. It's awesome. The
attached Xorg.0.log contains all the monitor information detected by the
radeonhd driver.

Unfortunately, this problem still exists in Gutsy Gibbon. I have to edit
xorg.conf, even if I start the LiveCD in safe graphics mode. Since the
release of Feisty Fawn last year, I've reported this issue a few times
in different places, including the Ubuntu Forums, the Ubuntu mailing
lists, and the X.Org mailing list. I must say, it's like talking to a
brick wall. I literally get no responses.

Doesn't anyone want to investigate? Or at least help me investigate? If
you write a message telling me to shut up, I'll be happy. It means
someone read my message.

** Attachment added: Contains monitor information, correctly gathered by 
radeonhd.
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10085449/Xorg.0.log

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-20 Thread Peter Clifton
Checkmate, take a look at the description of this bug, and try some of
the suggested things there.

sudo ddcprobe
(attach the output)

Perhaps install the read-edid package, and post the output from:
sudo get-edid

What is the output of:
sudo get-edid | parse-edid

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-20 Thread Checkmate
Peter, attached is the output of sudo ddcprobe.
I can't use read-edid on my 64-bit system. I extracted the EDID hex data from 
Xorg.0.log, compiled my own parse-edid, and fed it into there. Here's what I 
got:

# EDID version 1 revision 3
Section Monitor
# Block type: 2:0 3:ff
# Block type: 2:0 3:fd
# Block type: 2:0 3:fc
Identifier VG2230wm
VendorName VSC
ModelName VG2230wm
# Block type: 2:0 3:ff
# Block type: 2:0 3:fd
HorizSync 30-82
VertRefresh 50-75
# Max dot clock (video bandwidth) 170 MHz
# Block type: 2:0 3:fc
# DPMS capabilities: Active off:yes  Suspend:no  Standby:no

Mode1680x1050 # vfreq 59.954Hz, hfreq 65.290kHz
DotClock146.25
HTimings1680 1784 1960 2240
VTimings1050 1053 1059 1089
Flags   +HSync -VSync
EndMode
# Block type: 2:0 3:ff
# Block type: 2:0 3:fd
# Block type: 2:0 3:fc
EndSection

One more detail: The monitor does seem to support 1600x1200 mode. It's
pretty strange, but it shrinks the display down to 1680x1050 when I use
the mode. Everything gets blurry. When you boot from LiveCD, does Ubuntu
try to use the highest resolution available? I don't think that's very
wise.

The modes I end up deleting from xorg.conf (1680x1680, 1440x1440) seem
to fall under the category ctiming here. I bet the issue could be
solved by making Ubuntu ignore the ctiming modes, because they're
obviously wrong here. There are some legitimate ctiming modes, though.
I'm gonna find whatever's calculating those modes. Maybe somewhere,
there's a hidden assumption about the aspect ratio. This is a widescreen
16:10 monitor, and maybe some software can't handle that.

Thank you very, very much for responding. :)

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-20 Thread Peter Clifton
Ah, 64 bit. As I understand it, there are some issues probing monitor
info on 64 bit machines that people are working on. Hopefully it will be
resolved by Hardy.

People not replying probably means they don't know how to help.. that or
are jealous of your huge hi-res monitor ;)

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-20 Thread Checkmate
I doubt the 64-bitness is a problem here, because it got the EDID data
from my monitor. The vesa driver has to use an x86 emulator to run code
from the video BIOS, but I think it manages that fine (Fine here, but
not on my Tecra 8000).

I looked at the source code for ddcprobe (part of xresprobe) and found
the part where it calculates ctimings:

/* Standard timings. */
for(i = 0; i  8; i++) {
double aspect = 1;
unsigned int x, y;
unsigned char xres, vfreq;
xres = edid_info-standard_timing[i].xresolution;
vfreq = edid_info-standard_timing[i].vfreq;
if((xres != vfreq) ||
   ((xres != 0)  (xres != 1)) ||
   ((vfreq != 0)  (vfreq != 1))) {
switch(edid_info-standard_timing[i].aspect) {
case 0: aspect = 1; break; /*undefined*/
case 1: aspect = 0.750; break;
case 2: aspect = 0.800; break;
case 3: aspect = 0.625; break;
}
x = (xres + 31) * 8;
y = x * aspect;
printf(ctiming: [EMAIL PROTECTED], x, y,
   (vfreq  0x3f) + 60);
}
}

So that's how it detected 1680x1680 and 1440x1440: It thinks there's
an aspect ratio of 1 because of an undefined condition. Is this the
same code that Ubuntu uses to configure xorg.conf for the vesa driver?
If so, that would explain everything.

By the way, has anyone ever looked at edid-decode? It's awesome. It's in the 
xorg git tree here: 
http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/app/edid-decode.git;a=summary
I tried it on my EDID and it correctly parsed EVERYTHING. The output is 
attached.

So, I know how people can help with this issue:
Make ddcprobe more like edid-decode. :)

** Attachment added: Output of edid-decode
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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-20 Thread Checkmate
Attached is a patch for the file ddcprobe/ddcprobe.c in xresprobe.

Here is the REAL spec for the aspect field of a standard timing descriptor:
00: 16/10
01: 4/3
10: 5/4
11: 16/9

After applying this patch, it mostly works. There's no more 1680x1680 or
1440x1440 when I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg.
However, I still have to edit xorg.conf and delete 1600x1200 to get X
to start.

This is an extremely important patch! If anyone knows a better place to
send it, please tell me!

** Attachment added: Interpret the aspect field correctly.
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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-20 Thread Chris
Changing Gutsy screen resolutions does not work on my computer.

Gutsy incorrectly chooses 1920x1440 at 61Hz and although I see options
to change such, when I click apply nothing happens.

The screen resolution I need is 1152x864. I did hope that Ubuntu would
finally work this time around, but no.

I now have a coaster with Ubuntu Gutsy on it.

Oh well. Maybe this will be fixed in 2008.

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Re: [Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-20 Thread Caroline Ford
It is fixable - you need to edit your xorg.conf file. There will be
instructions somewhere - probably on the wiki.

 The screen resolution I need is 1152x864. I did hope that Ubuntu would
 finally work this time around, but no.

 I now have a coaster with Ubuntu Gutsy on it.

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RE: [Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-20 Thread Demosthenes
I had a seemingly unsolveable problem with a Dell laptop screen not
being recognised properly under the binary Nvidea driver that was fixed
by some kind contributer uploading a EDID file to these support forums
and then telling X to use that. Problem fixed. I suggest a database be
created of troublesome displays and corresponding EDID files if this
shows some promise to resolve some issues.

-original message-
Subject: [Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600  
when h/v freqs incorrect
From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20/10/2007 17:16

Changing Gutsy screen resolutions does not work on my computer.

Gutsy incorrectly chooses 1920x1440 at 61Hz and although I see options
to change such, when I click apply nothing happens.

The screen resolution I need is 1152x864. I did hope that Ubuntu would
finally work this time around, but no.

I now have a coaster with Ubuntu Gutsy on it.

Oh well. Maybe this will be fixed in 2008.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-19 Thread Tony Pursell
Just downloaded the Gutsy Live CD and it works fine with my ATI Radeon
Xpress 200 graphics and HP vs17x monitor.  This was the acid test for me
that the problems I originally had with the Dapper live CD install have
been fixed. Awesome and well done!

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-08 Thread blokeinlondon

similar problem to Caroline

sudo ddcprobe
vbe: VESA 3.0 detected.
oem: NVidia
vendor: NVidia Corporation
product: NV17 () Board Chip Rev A2
memory: 131072kb
mode: 640x400x256
mode: 640x480x256
mode: 800x600x16
mode: 800x600x256
mode: 1024x768x16
mode: 1024x768x256
mode: 1280x1024x16
mode: 1280x1024x256
mode: 80x60 (text)
mode: 132x25 (text)
mode: 132x43 (text)
mode: 132x50 (text)
mode: 132x60 (text)
mode: 320x200x64k
mode: 320x200x16m
mode: 640x480x64k
mode: 640x480x16m
mode: 800x600x64k
mode: 800x600x16m
mode: 1024x768x64k
mode: 1024x768x16m
mode: 1280x1024x64k
mode: 1280x1024x16m
edid: 
edid: 1 1
id: 7658
eisa: GWY7658
serial: 1ffe
manufacture: 34 1997
input: sync on green, analog signal.
screensize: 33 24
gamma: 2.70
dpms: RGB, active off, suspend, no standby
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VGA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
ctiming: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ctiming: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dtiming: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dtiming: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
monitorname: GATEWAY CS70
monitorrange: 30-70, 50-120

I would of thought that this monitor just needs adding to bullet proof X
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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-10-01 Thread Bryce Harrington
Demosthenes, please report the focus issue to a separate bug; it's
almost assuredly unrelated to this one.

Caroline, interesting, it seems your card is mis-reporting its
capabilities via ddcprobe.  I've not run across this situation before.
Are you also able to successfully specify 1280x1024 in your xorg.conf
successfully?  It sounds like the monitor will support it (at 60Hz tho),
and I would assume the card does as well.

Eric, that's a good point about virtual desktop sizes, thanks.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-29 Thread Bryce Harrington
John, so yeah if you're seeing 'edidfail', then your bug is 94994.  I
recommend subscribing to that one.  I have some ideas on that one and am
hopeful we can knock it out next week; there's been some really good
successes the past couple weeks at solving some long standing resolution
bugs, and I think we're on a roll.  It would kick ass if we could
eliminate all these major resolution issues for Gutsy!

Demosthenes, try sudo apt-get install xresprobe; that should get
ddcprobe installed for you.

For those of you on this bug's mail list, the website address is
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/3731

The past day I've been going through and looking at hundreds of
resolution bugs.  It is astounding how many of them on close look turn
out to just be bug 27667 in one form or another.  I think that bug fix
by itself is going to go a long way towards remedying Ubuntu's
reputation for poor resolution detection support.  I hadn't expected
we'd be able to close so many of these resolution bugs until Hardy!

** Description changed:

  I'm upgrade my system to ubuntu 5.10, after that, xorg can't load the
  correct resolution of the monitor ( 1024 x 768 ). I'ts only load
  640x480. I've used dpkg-recunfigure xserver-xorg, and insert the correct
  values, but don't work. The system is a Samsung 753dfx and a gforce mx
  200 32mb.
  
  [Update]
  A lot of people have reported this same bug.  Symptoms include:
  
-   * Your hardware supports a variety of resolutions, but Ubuntu only runs in 
640x480, 800x600, and/or 1024x768
+   * Your hardware supports a variety of resolutions, but Ubuntu only runs in 
640x480, 800x600, and/or 1024x768.  If you have all three resolutions, but 
expect more, you are likely seeing bug 27667, bug 49827, or bug 94994.
* In the Monitor section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, your monitor is listed as 
Generic Monitor, with HorizSync and VertRefresh rates that do not match your 
monitor
-   * `xresprobe driver` fails to work, or does not return accurate 
information for your hardware.  (You can find your driver by looking in 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf for the line Driver ...  It will be something like 'ati', 
'nv', 'nvidia', etc.  If you are using this on a laptop, run `xresprobe 
driver laptop`.
+   * `sudo xresprobe driver` fails to work, or does not return accurate 
information for your hardware.  (You can find your driver by looking in 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf for the line Driver ...  It will be something like 'ati', 
'nv', 'nvidia', etc.  If you are using this on a laptop, run `sudo xresprobe 
driver laptop`.  Also run `sudo ddcprobe` - if you see edidfail then you 
are experiencing bug 94994.
  
- The work-around for this bug is to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace
+ One work-around for this bug is to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace
  the rates with ones that match your monitor.  The section should look
  something like this:
  
  Section Monitor
  Identifier  Generic Monitor
  VendorName   SNY
  ModelNameSDM-S91
  Option  DPMS
  HorizSync   28-80 # Important:  Use horizontal frequency for 
your monitor
  VertRefresh 48-75 # Important:  Use vertical frequency for 
your monitor
  EndSection
  
  Your monitor's documentation will tell you what the frequencies are.
  It's typically on a data sheet in the back of the book titled Input
  Signal or similar.  If you don't have the printed manual, you can
  usually also find it on the manufacturer's website.
  
  Alternatively, you can try running `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
  and specifying the refresh rates through that interface, if you wish to
  avoid hand editing config files.  Note that this will replace your
  xorg.conf file entirely.
  
- The proper fix for this bug is to identify WHY xresprobe isn't working,
- and for this we will need everyone's help.  Here are some ideas on why
- it may or may not work, that need testing:
- 
-   * Does it work with DVI monitors?
-   * Does it work with KVM switches?
-   * Does it work with DVI-to-VGA adapters?
-   * Does it work with HD monitors?
-   * Does it work with multi-headed systems?
-   * Does it work on non-x86 systems (AMD64, PPC64, et al)?
- 
- If you are having resolution problems, you can help by running xresprobe
- (see above) and if it fails, then try to think of anything a-typical
- about your system, and report your findings in the comments of this bug.
+ If you're running Gutsy, then you can also try the Screen and Graphics
+ GUI admin tool, which lets you reconfigure your xorg.conf in a graphical
+ manner.

** Tags removed: metabug

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-29 Thread Bryce Harrington
Checkmate:  wow, that's an insidious little bug you've found!  We'll
want to do some testing before we commit that.  Can you file a new bug
requesting that patch, and assign it to me?  I think if it causes no
other unusual behavior we can roll out that change for Gutsy.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-29 Thread Checkmate
Bryce: I have submitted bug 146643.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-29 Thread Demosthenes
thanks Bryce..  I finally found the timings for the Viewsonic VA1912W
and manually created a 1440x900 resolution and enabled it and it works,
and enabled anti-aliasing, vibrance, etc with the Nvidia control panel -
but now another weird problem when some apps close (like a full screen
app just now) keyboard and mouse lose focus to the X screen as a whole -
i.e. - can't interact with the computer although mouse cursor can be
moved around (but has no effect)...  ideas?

I really hope the next version of Ubuntu will fix some of these bugs -
it's taken a decade of solid development to get Linux to a point where
it is *almost* usable for the average user, but not quite.  Most people
would not have a clue about manually setting timings and all these
commands.  But I am happy I've made some progress.  Still leaves Linux
in the 'need a lot of technical knowledge' category though, not quite
there yet until these things are easier to resolve or better documented.
Definately an improvement from when I last used Linux a few years ago
though (before Ubuntu existed).

Can't say I have heard Vista is all round easy to install and maintain
either though I have to admit.

Now if I can just resolve this weird 'lose focus' bug?

Would also like to know how to pipe full screen video to the TV as XP
does so flawlessly.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-29 Thread Caroline Ford
ddc probe finds the resolutions for my monitor, but not for my graphics
chip?

 sudo ddcprobe
Password:
vbe: VESA 3.0 detected.
oem: NVIDIA
vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
product: CR17 Board Chip Rev A3
memory: 32768kb
mode: 640x400x256
mode: 640x480x256
mode: 800x600x16
mode: 800x600x256
mode: 320x200x64k
mode: 320x200x16m
mode: 640x480x64k
mode: 640x480x16m
mode: 800x600x64k
mode: 800x600x16m
edid:
edid: 1 3
id: a001
eisa: DELa001
serial: 38315a42
manufacture: 11 2002
input: sync on green, analog signal.
screensize: 31 23
gamma: 2.90
dpms: RGB, active off, suspend, standby
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VGA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
timing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz (VESA)
ctiming: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ctiming: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ctiming: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ctiming: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dtiming: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
monitorserial: 23DDC23B81ZB
monitorname: DELL E771a
monitorrange: 30-70, 50-160

It's an onboard nvidia gforce chip (think mx4) and an old dell crt. I am
now running at 1024x768 but only by manually adding the monitor ranges
to xorg.conf

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-28 Thread Demosthenes
I tried sudo ddcprobe and command was not found.. Using standard Ubuntu
installation with Nvidia card and Viewsonic widescreen (VA1912W) that
should be 1440x900.

Any ideas??  It's the only thing left that stops me from switching from
XP to Ubuntu.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-28 Thread Bryce Harrington
Heya all,

I'm just surfacing to report some progress made on resolution detection
for Gutsy.  We've found a fix for a sub-class of this bug, for
situations involving LCDs with analog connections (I assume this is
VGA connections as opposed to DVI) where the highest (and most correct)
resolution gets lost.  This is bug 27667 and is due to poor logic in
xresprobe/ddcprobe.sh that mixes up CRTs and LCDs.  The logic is being
dropped, which will fix this bug.  There were also a couple other
logical errors which may have caused other related monitor resolution
mis-detections.

144956 also has a fix; it addresses an issue that cropped up after Tribe
5 for intel users that resulted in misdetected resolutions for some.
This was caused by a patch added in Tribe 5.  The patch will be dropped
to fix the issue.

For others experiencing this problem, a couple tips:  run ddcprobe to
see if it reports a series of timings for your monitor.  If it instead
returns edidfail, you're seeing bug 94994.  If it returns a correct
list of resolutions, but the highest one is missing, and you're using an
LCD, then you're seeing bug 27667.  For everyone else, stay tuned...

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-28 Thread Checkmate
OK. This is from the X.Org mailing list (I wrote to it):

 Julien Cristau wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 20:13:15 -0700, Nolan Check wrote:
 
 I own a Toshiba Tecra 8000 laptop. The display device is a NeoMagic
 MagicGraph256AV, which uses the NM2200 chipset. The monitor goes up to
 1024x768. When I install Xubuntu Gutsy Tribe 5 (with latest updates), it
 fails to detect the screen resolutions properly. It maxes out at 640x480
 until I adjust the HorizSync and VertSync parameters in
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf. The reason for this seems to be that X.Org fails to
 call the video BIOS function to get monitor data. (See attached
 /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
 
 During the VBE DDC transfer, it gets 01 ILLEGAL X86 EXTENDED OPCODE.
 That indicates the opcode 0F 01, correct? The INVPLG instruction.
 
 Looks a bit like https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11842 .
 See also http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=404885#46
 
 Julien

 Wow, it's just a one-character change to the code! I'd really like to try
 that patch. I guess it's time for me to figure out how to compile X.Org.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-20 Thread Checkmate
This is already reported: Tecra 8000 laptop video (Neomagic
MagicGraphAV256 with NM2200 chipset) automatically detects as only
640x480. I can fix that by setting HorizSync and VertSync in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf. Then the fonts are way too small, so I fix that by
setting a workable DPI value. I think the reason it fails is that it
finds 01 ILLEGAL X86 EXTENDED OPCODE in the Video BIOS while it's
trying to read EDID data (a message in /var/log/Xorg.0.log). So the
opcode is 0F 01, the INVPLG instruction. I looked in the source code
for the X.Org int10 driver where this error message is printed; there
is no implementation for INVPLG (it's a privileged instruction). Now if
I knew how to compile my own X.Org, I would fix that. I think an
acceptable solution is to simply ignore the opcode.

I suppose I should tell all this to whoever wrote the code!

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-16 Thread Wrwrwr
Gutsy, LG Studioworks 57i is not recognized correctly resulting in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] :) mode. This fortunately falls back to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Running displayconfig-gtk and selecting generic monitor solves the
problem (this very model is not in the database).

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-11 Thread Demosthenes
GeForce 6x series and VA1912W widescreen monitor that should be
1440x900.. Stuck on 1024x768. Don't want to go mucking anything up but
this is what I believe to be the relevant sections of my XConfig file -
I have enabled the 'restricted' NVidia driver (restricted, it's only
restrictive to be stuck with the CPU handling all graphics and not being
able to use Linux as a *desktop*).

3D acceleration and desktop effects seem to be working fine.

Section Device
Identifier nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600]
Driver nvidia
Busid PCI:1:0:0
Option AddARGBVisuals True
Option AddARGBGLXVisuals True
Option NoLogo True
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier Generic Monitor
Option DPMS
Horizsync 28-51
Vertrefresh 43-60
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Default Screen
Device nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600]
Monitor Generic Monitor
Defaultdepth 24
SubSection Display
Depth 1
Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 4
Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 8
Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 15
Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 16
Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 24
Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-05 Thread maikelmeyers
I don't know if this information helps, but I have to tell ;)
When I connect my beamer to my laptop with a long (5m) vga-cable, the desktop 
and beamer resolution is set to 800x600 and I don't get the resolution higher.
When I use a short cable (1.5m) everything works fine (1024x768).
So for now, I have to start with the short cable, and then after booting plug 
the long cable :D

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-05 Thread Michal Suchanek
Apparently the longer cable is defective.

I do not know how long the cable can be until the roundtrip for the
signal is too long for ddc to work but 5m is not that much.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-05 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
Michal:
I've noticed monitor signals don't travel well in really long VGA cables and 
_some_ laptops seem more susceptible than others to the problem (this is under 
Windows to projectors). This doesn't rule out the possibility of being able to 
workaround the issue but once you get a cable over 2.5 metres you can start 
seeing some strange issues and things like signal boosters start to help...

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-09-03 Thread simspace
Thanks for all the info in this post. It was very helpful.
To those with a Westinghouse LTV-32w3 LCD TV - use the following and you will 
see all resolutions...
HorizSync   50-75
VertRefresh60-75

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-08-29 Thread Alacrityathome
Byce,

Not sure if I should post this here or add to the wiki solution but I
have attached the boot screen for the MEPIS solution to the Ubuntu #3731
bug.  The MEPIS 6.0 Linux distro is actually based on Ubuntu packages
but they added this front end capability to resolve the monitor
resolution problem.  Appears to be a good solution that Ubuntu could
possibly consider.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-08-27 Thread Bryce Harrington
Let's also start a spec for a true fix for this:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/AutodetectMonitorFrequency

DisplayConfigGtk and BulletproofX are both important, yet they are just
workarounds to the true underlying problems I've outlined in the above
link.

Please join with me in drafting up a much better, more powerful solution
to this monitor detection mess.  Contribute your thoughts, ideas, and
questions in the wiki page above, to help us conceptualize a real fix to
the problem for Ubuntu (and hopefully Debian too).

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-08-27 Thread Alacrityathome
Many thanks, Bryce, for investing so much in this solution.  I love
testing a wide range of Linux live CDs and find that a % recognize my
i810 1024/768 laptop monitor and a % do not recognize it.  My question
is not part of the wiki spec discussion but more general.  Can I ask if,
in your mind, there is a Linux distribution out there that has solved
this challenge to your satisfaction?  If so, is it possible to borrow
their solution for the famous Ubuntu distribution?  Sorry if this
question is too noobish.

For me, I have gotten used to the xorg.conf edit process (as long as
there is a safe video boot choice) but I can see for the vast number of
potential users out there and the trend to Linux.an out of the box
resolution recognition is critical.

Anyway, if you need an Ubuntu tester for this bug please let me know.  I
would be more than glad to help.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-08-25 Thread Alacrityathome
Just tested tribe 5 Ubuntu and hoped the new GUI for screen resolution
would finally assist in recognizing my 1028 x 768 LCD intel 810/815
screen resolution.

Did not work.  Only worked at low resolution on the safe video mode
start up.  Then use the terminal and the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-
xorg -phigh process as well as plugging in the horzsync and vert refresh
numbers in xorg.conf.  Only then do I  get the 1028x768 resolution.

Is there any way for the new GUI screen resolution in Tribe 5 to accept
a custom configuration?  If I use the GUI to plug in the intel 810, I
still can not get the GUI to pick up a custom sync level.  So, by custom
I would like to see the GUI be able to take a custom sync level.

Last Ubuntu that recognized my laptop resolution out of the box was
6.10.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-08-25 Thread Chris
Just a heads up, Bryce has a discussion thread about this here:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=490982

On page 11, at post 105, Bryce talks about some of his work, very
interesting. He posted it yesterday.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3248403postcount=105

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-08-23 Thread Chris
I just tested tribe 5, Kubuntu and Ubuntu.

Monitor = 19 Viewsonic G90f+
GPU = ATI x1950 PRO
MB = Gigabyte GA-M55PLUS-S3G
RAM = 2GB (2x1GB)
CPU = AMD 64 X2 3800+

Kubuntu 64bit
gutsy-desktop-amd64.iso
* default screen resolution 1920 x 1440 61Hz (unable to move from this)
* could not change this (changing settings did not work)

Ubuntu 64bit
gutsy-desktop-amd64.iso
* default screen resolution 1920 x 1440 61Hz
* settings changed immediately however the reported screen resolutions seemed 
to be off. For example, the ideal XP Pro setting is 1152x864. To make Ubuntu 
look similar, I needed to set it to 1600x1200.

If you need me to test something specifically just let me know.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-08-18 Thread Chris
Hi Bryce,

Any news about this project?

Anything to test yet?

Chris

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-07-10 Thread Michal Suchanek
Bryce: The X autodetection is not a solution for now. It is so poorly
designed it is unusable.

It does not work by commenting out sections in the config file. You have
to *REMOVE* the config file *COMPLETELY*.

This means that many settings for which there are no reasonable defaults
break.

However, I tried it for the sake of experimentation when I was
configuring X for Ati Radeon 9200 + Sony G200. The readouts from the
card are complete, the monitor is fully identified including all the
modes. X says the first detailed timing is the preferred mode in the log
but it chooses some 60Hz mode for this CRT monitor. It probably chooses
the largest over the one marked preferred or one that has reasonable
refresh rate.

Even if it worked this way of configuration is useless because it does
not allow to specify *anything* in the config file (keyboard layout,
server options, dri options, font paths, graphics driver options, ..).
Many of these options could be set or worked around in gdm scripts but
some cannot.

For one, on Matrox cards the default is hardware cursor which is broken.
Another recurring problem is the option to use DDC readings defaulting
to off for some drivers.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-07-09 Thread zishmusic
I fixed the tiling issue with the compaq evo n1000v.

I had to specify HorizSync and VertRefresh in my monitor definition:

Section Monitor
Identifier Monitor0
VendorName LGP
ModelName 6e54
Option DPMS
HorizSync 31.5-90.0
VertRefresh 59.0-60.0
EndSection

After I did this, everything was back to normal.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-07-02 Thread Nick_Hill
This gives a black border on the left
Sorry, the black border is on the right. 

The resolution should be 1024x768 preferably 24 or 32bpp.

According to the xorg.log, there is DDC data to establish screen
resolution and DPI (I am experiencing DPI issues on Gutsy on other
machines):

(II) RADEON(0): clock: 65.0 MHz   Image Size:  286 x 214 mm
(II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1024  h_sync: 1048  h_sync_end 1184 h_blank_end 1344 
h_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): v_active: 768  v_sync: 771  v_sync_end 777 v_blanking: 806 
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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-06-14 Thread Bryce Harrington
Michal:  For automatic device detection, the plan is to let xorg do full
autodetection of both the monitor and the graphics card.  That is still
a work in progress (although it already works well for many
configurations).  This is actually considered the *true* fix for this
bug 3731, and I'm really looking forward to seeing how well it works.
You can test it by commenting out the Device and Monitor section in your
xorg.conf and the two corresponding lines in your ServerLayout, starting
X, and see if it picks up the right device, card, and resolution rates.
This should work for Gutsy, and *maybe* in Feisty, but there's still a
lot of hardware that probably won't get detected right.

Thanks for the suggestion to save the screen settings, that sounds like
it could be useful.  I'll experiment with implementing that once I've
got more of the basics in place.

Sitsofe: thanks, I hadn't seen that spec before; it's got a number of
interesting links for me to check out.  I'd noticed a few proposals for
fallback modes in the wiki, so this is definitely an idea that's been
kicking around a while.

Tony:  Actually the plan for the LiveCD situation is rather than pop
into the failsafe mode, to just go ahead and boot the LiveCD with vesa
or vga or fbdev, so BulletProofX won't be relevant in that situation.
However, the displayconfig-gtk tool will be present in the Admin menu,
so if you got booted into a low resolution, you can use that to select
your monitor/device/resolution, test it with the Test button, and then
go into the installer like normal.  I hope the installer will then
notice you've already configured xorg and reuse your changes, but that
may take some work to iron out the kinks.

Everyone:  If you're getting these emails from 3731 (perhaps via a dupe
bug) and don't want them, a helpful reminder:  If you go to
bugs.launchpad.net and log in, you can see a list of bugs.  Each bug has
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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-06-13 Thread Tony Pursell
Bryce:

Will your BulletProofX work for the Live CD?  In my original Bug #68905
the big problem for me was getting my hard drive repartitioned because I
couldn't run gparted in the low resolution. If you remember, I was lucky
to find a Gparted live CD which had a wide range of video setup options.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-06-12 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
Bryce:
This sounds similar to what was proposed in 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XserverFailover

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-06-11 Thread Bryce Harrington
An early preview about a GUI config tool we've been working on to help
address this problem, since I know many people are having this problem
and wondering what the plan is:

http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/BulletProofX/

This is not a true fix for the root cause of this bug, however it is
going to be a better workaround than having to manually hand-edit your
xorg.conf.  The above link shows the tool in use when Ubuntu has
completely failed to generate a working xorg.conf, and provides a
failsafe environment where the user can select monitor/device settings.

The displayconfig-gtk tool will also be available from within Ubuntu's
System menu, to allow re-configuration once Ubuntu has launched.

Neither of these capabilities are implemented in Gutsy yet, but should
be within the coming weeks; I'll update here once there is something
that can actually be tried out.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-06-11 Thread Chris
Keep up the good work Bryce.  Looks great so far!

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-06-11 Thread Michal Suchanek
Looks good, this is certainly an improvement over the X broke, you are
to keep the pieces dialog.

I would suggest several other things:

 - when I set the driver to iwantaponny (or physically change the
card) I would like the tool to automatically remove the card section and
generate a new one, and only bug me if X fails to start after that.

 - an option (default on) to save screen data, and reuse it when screen is not 
detected. This could be done as a gdm (or similar) script once X starts. To 
avoid the need to start in some sort of VGA failsafe mode in most cases this 
could have several modes
   1) detection working (and used by the driver, some have it off by default) - 
all OK, save data
- if the monitor is not in a database of known monitors, offer the 
option to send the data somewhere for inclusion. The user should fill in the 
manufacturer and model because the DDC data often says something else. This 
probably should be the default only in beta distributions. When sent, the 
monitor should be added to the local database or some whitelist so that the 
script does not ask again. Perhaps the script could even ask if the 
manufacturer/model in the database and the detected parameters are correct.
   2) detection not working, saved data present - offer the option to use the 
saved data
- once X is restarted ask to make the monitor data default regardless 
of autodetection - should be hard to select when the screen is not working
   3) detection not working - offer a selection of monitors to choose from + 
some generic types like 19 LCD (1280x1024) or 17 CRT (1024x768)
- on restart the same as 2) 

Note that many monitors that can be detected on one card would fail on
another, and some cards may be completely broken in this regard. Thus
the semi-automatic building of monitor database could be helpful, and
monitors that report bad data could be singled out - users can send the
saved data when stuff breaks.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-06-10 Thread Tony Pursell
I have attached output from get-edid for my HPvs17x monitor as
requested.

Since getting this problem with Dapper (Bug #68905), I have upgraded to
Edgy.  With Edgy I experienced a similar problem. During the boot
sequence the monitor complained about the settings it was given (it asks
for 1280x1024 @ 60Hz) and did not display the splash screen.  I cured it
by adding vga=791 to the defoptions in grub.  Note, this was not a
problem with Dapper.

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Re: [Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-06-10 Thread Vedran Rodic
@Tony, Your edid seems to be correct, and X should use it without
problems.

Video mode setting code for the OS splash screen is in the kernel, and
we hope it will be solved when (and if) the mode setting code is moved
to the kernel. Regardless of that, current kernel code could be
patched, but I'm not currently looking into that.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-06-09 Thread Vedran Rodic
I believe that the same class of problems are causing many monitor
resolution/refresh rate problems as listed in bugs 50048, 27667 (these
are the bugs I made comments on) and probably many more. The problems
with the edid data.

The new Xorg server should be able to query monitor by itself for DDC edid info 
about it's capatibilities, without ddcprobe. This functionality works for me if 
I leave out monitor specific information from my Xorg.conf like this:
Section Monitor
Identifier Generic Monitor
Option DPMS
EndSection

In the edid there should be data for the recommended resolution and
refresh rate. The problem is however that some monitors have this data
wrong (so you don't get the right resolution or refresh rate), or the
checksum of the complete data wrong (so you don't get the edid data used
by X at all). Either way, could you send the output of the get-edid 
yourmonitormakeandmodel.edid as attachment to this bug, and possibly the
xorg mailing list, so we can see what's wrong with the data and add a
quirk for it in the Xorg code? get-edid is in the read-edid package, and
it's output can be piped to parse-edid to create the Xorg.conf monitor
section). I'm not sure why the checksum for edid data for my monitor is
incorrect, it's probably a quirk of my monitor, but for other cases
where edid data is different on multiple runs of get-edid or Xorg, it
might be best to permanently store this data to be used if nothing valid
is detected on subsequent runs.

 If this gets done in time, it's quite possible that gutsy will finally
have good out of the box monitor autodetection support.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-05-04 Thread Bhavani Shankar
Yes this happens to me also when I changed my card from Igma to Nvidia
6600 GT

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-30 Thread Bryce Harrington
For Feisty, xresprobe is not included in the default installation.  In
theory, this should not be an issue for most people, however I think for
people who don't have xresprobe installed, if they reconfigure Xorg then
the new xorg.conf file could result in incomplete monitor detection, and
thus lead to this bug.  This could also occur if the user installed a
new monitor or video card and re-ran `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-
xorg` without first installing xresprobe.  It could also occur if a user
upgrades from Edgy or Dapper to Feisty, and xresprobe gets uninstalled,
and then the user reconfigures xorg.  As I understand, this was a unique
change for Feisty, and wouldn't affect Edgy or Dapper users since as I
understand xresprobe was installed by default in those.

For gutsy we've altered things such that xresprobe is once again
installed by default, so behavior should at least return to where it was
with Edgy and Dapper.  In at least one dupe of this bug, having
xresprobe present seems to have helped.  See bug 109908.

However, this change only gives us a partial fix; I know there are
additional problems with xresprobe that will crop up even with it
installed.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-30 Thread Bryce Harrington
In bug 94673, this monitor non-detection is occurring intermittently -
sometimes it detects correctly, sometimes it sets it as generic monitor.
Have others seen intermittent behaviors like this, from boot to boot?

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-30 Thread Michal Suchanek
Yes, with a rv100 card and Sony G200 monitor. It was not from boot to
boot but from X start to X start. That is probably why Windows keep the
resolution settings when no screen is detected. It may be turned off,
disconnected, or the detection just might have failed.

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Re: [Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-27 Thread Hans van Esdonk
I remember that after installing the crt was in the 1024 x 768 mode
(after a restart) I played with the desktop effects and switched those
off again. After some time the crt switched spontaneously to 800 x 600
and in the menu only this mode and 640 x 480 was available. The
xresprobe install solved the problem for some reason I don't
understand. Till now I work in the 1024 x 768 mode without problems. 
I also tried to change the config but it looked if it didn't accept the
changes. At the moment in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file shows my monitor
type (daewoo 518X) so I'm satisfied

Hans van Esdonk


Op vrijdag 27-04-2007 om 00:13 uur [tijdzone +], schreef Chris:
 I have manually edited the xorg.conf many times, with many variations.
 Yes setting the H and V refresh rates and modes will eventually enable
 one of a few viewable outcomes, but such is easily broken.
 
 For example, I went to see the 3d cube, Compiz, installed/enabled the
 drivers, reboot and I was back to 800x600 50Hz on a 19 CRT. No way
 around that other than to lose those drivers. They ignored xorg.conf
 completely.
 
 I have also tested xresprobe, but without success.
 
 Xorg 7.3 is slated to be released in May 2007 and that is said to not
 use a xorg.conf at all.
 
 Also other distros have auto detection methods that work (from what I
 have learned), such as suse.
 
 7.04 doesn't work at all for me because I need a full range of screen
 resolutions, color bit depth and refresh rates - everything my hardware
 can do, before I can actually view 7.04 to see what it is like.
 
 Bryce, when you have some actual software solution, let me know and I
 will test it.


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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-27 Thread tomas erlendsson
had a buddy with this problem in his 7.04 and fixed the problem by going
to system settings..monitor and display...addmin
mode..hardware...monitor configure...chose generic...click the right
resolution for your screen ok and restart Xserversorry about not
applying you with tecnical info I am a complete newcomer to the data
world, but this did fix his problem,,, you might want to find your own
monitor in there.we could not find his so we choose generic...

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-27 Thread Chris
Here is a related thread to discuss this further, to complement this
launchpad Bug #3731 reporting:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423745

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-27 Thread jamings
Hi
My name is Ed   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   

I had a problem installing version 7.0.  I could not get a resolution
greater than 640 x 480.  This prevented me from installing the system,
therefore I could not do any of the tweaks that you folks had suggested.
My solution was to upgrade my video card and now get a resolution of
1024 x 768.  I was able to install the system and am using it at
present.  Thanks for all the support and hope this info is helpful.

Ed

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-27 Thread Bryce Harrington
** Tags added: metabug

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-26 Thread fallenguru
Just wanted to add that this doesen't have much to do with the H/V-freqs
being wrong - having no freqs in xorg.conf has the same effect, even
though the X server reads the monitor's EDID info correctly.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-26 Thread Chris
Bug posted 109483, a possible dupe of 3731.

Ref:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/109483

Related Gutsy Gibbon idea suggestion thread:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423745

I am ready to test possible solutions as this bug affects my current
hardware. I await to be advised what to do to assist.

Cheers.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-26 Thread Michal Suchanek
I would like to add that X often does not detect the monitor either. In
some cases xresprobe or similar can read the monitor info but X cannot.
Sometimes it is the other way around. I suspect there are some marginal
setups that require several retries/longer timeouts than usual.

And there are several ways to read the info. One can usually query bios
or read the info from the monitor. Sometimes one way works and other
returns nothing or nonsense.

And reading the info is not always reliable. Even if the monitor is connected 
and turned on. 
I just started X about a dozen times, and once it came in [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Just killing the server and starting a new one fixed the problem.

Some drivers in X do not rely on the info returned from the monitor. In
the ideal case a xorg.conf with no monitor settings should work.
However, some graphics card drivers require a special option to actually
use the information read from the monitor.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-26 Thread Bryce Harrington
bug 91292 shows similar behavior with a cluster of bugs against the
nvidia restricted driver.  Several have reported that the failed monitor
detection only showed up after upgrading to Feisty from earlier
versions, suggesting there is a software change involved (perhaps
xresprobe went missing, or a driver version changed, or the new xorg
7.2, or...?)

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-26 Thread Bryce Harrington
Also see bug 8177 regarding vbetool.  Also has some good background into
the ddcprobe situation and describes some of the amd64 portability
problems.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-26 Thread Chris
I have manually edited the xorg.conf many times, with many variations.
Yes setting the H and V refresh rates and modes will eventually enable
one of a few viewable outcomes, but such is easily broken.

For example, I went to see the 3d cube, Compiz, installed/enabled the
drivers, reboot and I was back to 800x600 50Hz on a 19 CRT. No way
around that other than to lose those drivers. They ignored xorg.conf
completely.

I have also tested xresprobe, but without success.

Xorg 7.3 is slated to be released in May 2007 and that is said to not
use a xorg.conf at all.

Also other distros have auto detection methods that work (from what I
have learned), such as suse.

7.04 doesn't work at all for me because I need a full range of screen
resolutions, color bit depth and refresh rates - everything my hardware
can do, before I can actually view 7.04 to see what it is like.

Bryce, when you have some actual software solution, let me know and I
will test it.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-25 Thread Olivier Lacroix
Hi, 
as this bug seems to be the one where to gather resolution autodetection 
problems, here I go.

Feisty failed to detect well the native resolution (1400x1050) of my
laptop screen. That is strange because xresprobe gave the right one. I
have no idea what went wrong.

It's an asus laptop based on a centrino dothan platform with an X600
graphic card

just tested it : xrandr got it right.

If you need any debug info, just ask for it.

Olivier

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-24 Thread Bryce Harrington
** Summary changed:

- Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 when h/v freqs incorrect
+ Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs 
incorrect

** Description changed:

  I'm upgrade my system to ubuntu 5.10, after that, xorg can't load the
  correct resolution of the monitor ( 1024 x 768 ). I'ts only load
  640x480. I've used dpkg-recunfigure xserver-xorg, and insert the correct
  values, but don't work. The system is a Samsung 753dfx and a gforce mx
  200 32mb.
+ 
+ [Update]
+ A lot of people have reported this same bug.  Symptoms include:
+ 
+   * Your hardware supports a variety of resolutions, but Ubuntu only runs in 
640x480, 800x600, and/or 1024x768
+   * In the Monitor section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, your monitor is listed as 
Generic Monitor, with HorizSync and VertRefresh rates that do not match your 
monitor
+   * `xresprobe driver` fails to work, or does not return accurate 
information for your hardware.  (You can find your driver by looking in 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf for the line Driver ...  It will be something like 'ati', 
'nv', 'nvidia', etc.  If you are using this on a laptop, run `xresprobe 
driver laptop`.
+ 
+ The work-around for this bug is to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace
+ the rates with ones that match your monitor.  The section should look
+ something like this:
+ 
+ Section Monitor
+ Identifier  Generic Monitor
+ VendorName   SNY
+ ModelNameSDM-S91
+ Option  DPMS
+ HorizSync   28-80 # Important:  Use horizontal frequency for 
your monitor
+ VertRefresh 48-75 # Important:  Use vertical frequency for 
your monitor
+ EndSection
+ 
+ Your monitor's documentation will tell you what the frequencies are.
+ It's typically on a data sheet in the back of the book titled Input
+ Signal or similar.  If you don't have the printed manual, you can
+ usually also find it on the manufacturer's website.
+ 
+ The proper fix for this bug is to identify WHY xresprobe isn't working,
+ and for this we will need everyone's help.  Here are some ideas on why
+ it may or may not work, that need testing:
+ 
+   * Does it work with DVI monitors?
+   * Does it work with KVM switches?
+   * Does it work with DVI-to-VGA adapters?
+   * Does it work with HD monitors?
+   * Does it work with multi-headed systems?
+   * Does it work on non-x86 systems (AMD64, PPC64, et al)?
+ 
+ If you are having resolution problems, you can help by running xresprobe
+ (see above) and if it fails, then try to think of anything a-typical
+ about your system, and report your findings in the comments of this bug.

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[Bug 3731] Re: Xorg resolution falling back to 640x480 and/or 800x600 when h/v freqs incorrect

2007-04-24 Thread Bryce Harrington
Some data points from my own experimentation with hardware at hand:

Did NOT detect monitor on an Intel x86_64 box with nVidia Quadro NVS 285
card that has a VGA splitter cord that makes the card dual-head
capable.  It was tricky getting xinerama working on this card so I'm not
surprised it had issues here.

DID detect a Sony LCD monitor on a Dell XPS x86 system with a Radeon
R350.  It was connected to the R350's VGA port.  Did NOT detect another
similar Sony LCD monitor connected to the Radeon's DVI port.  I used a
DVI-to-VGA adapter since the second monitor is VGA.  I don't know if
it's DVI or the adapter, or if xresprobe only detects a single monitor.

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2007-04-24 Thread Bryce Harrington
** Description changed:

  I'm upgrade my system to ubuntu 5.10, after that, xorg can't load the
  correct resolution of the monitor ( 1024 x 768 ). I'ts only load
  640x480. I've used dpkg-recunfigure xserver-xorg, and insert the correct
  values, but don't work. The system is a Samsung 753dfx and a gforce mx
  200 32mb.
  
  [Update]
  A lot of people have reported this same bug.  Symptoms include:
  
* Your hardware supports a variety of resolutions, but Ubuntu only runs in 
640x480, 800x600, and/or 1024x768
* In the Monitor section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, your monitor is listed as 
Generic Monitor, with HorizSync and VertRefresh rates that do not match your 
monitor
* `xresprobe driver` fails to work, or does not return accurate 
information for your hardware.  (You can find your driver by looking in 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf for the line Driver ...  It will be something like 'ati', 
'nv', 'nvidia', etc.  If you are using this on a laptop, run `xresprobe 
driver laptop`.
  
  The work-around for this bug is to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace
  the rates with ones that match your monitor.  The section should look
  something like this:
  
  Section Monitor
  Identifier  Generic Monitor
  VendorName   SNY
  ModelNameSDM-S91
  Option  DPMS
  HorizSync   28-80 # Important:  Use horizontal frequency for 
your monitor
  VertRefresh 48-75 # Important:  Use vertical frequency for 
your monitor
  EndSection
  
  Your monitor's documentation will tell you what the frequencies are.
  It's typically on a data sheet in the back of the book titled Input
  Signal or similar.  If you don't have the printed manual, you can
  usually also find it on the manufacturer's website.
  
+ Alternatively, you can try running `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
+ and specifying the refresh rates through that interface, if you wish to
+ avoid hand editing config files.  Note that this will replace your
+ xorg.conf file entirely.
+ 
  The proper fix for this bug is to identify WHY xresprobe isn't working,
  and for this we will need everyone's help.  Here are some ideas on why
  it may or may not work, that need testing:
  
* Does it work with DVI monitors?
* Does it work with KVM switches?
* Does it work with DVI-to-VGA adapters?
* Does it work with HD monitors?
* Does it work with multi-headed systems?
* Does it work on non-x86 systems (AMD64, PPC64, et al)?
  
  If you are having resolution problems, you can help by running xresprobe
  (see above) and if it fails, then try to think of anything a-typical
  about your system, and report your findings in the comments of this bug.

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