[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
I hope this will be helpful. Modifying the instructions as mentioned earlier for the hard link, I did the following: as root: # mknod /dev/m500 c 188 1 # chmod 766 /dev/m500 I was then able to use hotsync easily, since /dev/pilot was otherwise created and deleted over my hard link. The new link doesn't get deleted. I am using debian wheezy, but all other symptoms were practically identical the ones mentioned above. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/38574 Title: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
Thanks for following up. If somebody can isolate the fix, we can push it to dapper-updates - the complete changes in pilot-link, gnome-pilot etc are too huge to just push to dapper. Please open a Dapper task, once a isolated fix is available. ** Changed in: gnome-pilot (Ubuntu) Importance: High = Medium Status: Needs Info = Fix Released -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
Well, this bug does have for Dapper Drake in the title - how much more Dapper-y can you get? I don't know who the person responsible for this is (whether it's the maintainer of the pilot packages or the kernel team), but saying Please open a Dapper task, once a isolated fix is available is basically saying I hope that a fix for this will magically appear out of the air. Who is this somebody who is going to isolate the fix? -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
This does now work in Edgy. However, Dapper is supposed to be supported for five years. People who want a stable Ubuntu also want to be able to sync their Treos. A fix for this problem needs to be backported. -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
A new version (2.0.14) was uploaded to Edgy. It'd be nice if you had a chance to test this and report back, if the problem still persists. ** Changed in: gnome-pilot (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Needs Info -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
gpilotd now does a full sync reliably. But only if I start it by manually from the command line. Same here. See https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome- pilot/+bug/38574/comments/30 -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
Glad that the kernel update appears to solve this issue, and that setting a non-zero timeout appears to solve the problem with the ttyUSB devices hanging around after a sync completes. I'm pretty sure this latter issue has been solved in gnome-pilot CVS, and the timeout=0 trick is only required for pilot-link 0.12.0 pre-releases (and maybe Suse's patched 0.11.8 version). Regards, Matt -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: [Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
After some more playing around, I discovered that the timeout value of 0 in gpilotd-control-applet was causing gpilot to hang at the end of the sync. I changed that timeout to 4 seconds and now gpilotd can perform multiple syncs without having to be killed and restarted. I had changed it to 0 seconds due to another message somewhere saying that was a recommended fix for some of these USB sync issues. I rebooted just to see if that would help with the gpilotd GUIs... and now it's working! I've done 5 correct syncs in a row via gnome-pilot's standard GUI interfaces. So it does appear that moving to the 2.6.17.x kernel is what corrected the issue for me too. -Rob -- Robert W. Brewer -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: [Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
Tonight I tested a full restore of my palm device. First I synced it with gnome-pilot, which worked correctly from the GUI. Next I cleared the memory on the device. The restore results were disappointing. The restore began properly, then the progress bars started flashing back and forth wildly, then the palm disconnected and the progress window appeared to be hung. I could not close the window. I eventually killed gnome-pilot-applet and gpilotd. I started gpilotd manually without gnome-pilot-applet and the restore appeared to be going much better. After several minutes the palm reported that it was complete and prompted me to reset the device, but gpilotd appeared to be hung still trying to transfer data. When I reset the device, it got a fatal exception during bootup. This problem was no doubt because the restore was only partially completed. Needless to say it appears this process is still far too flaky to be my primary means of backing up the device. Once again for reference this is while running the 2.6.17.6 kernel on an up-to-date dapper drake. -Rob -- Robert W. Brewer -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
Any progress on solving this bug? -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
I'm having this problem too. I was previously running Debian unstable with all the same hardware and syncing worked fine to my USB visor using pilot-link. I reinstalled the laptop with dapper drake and I'm getting the flakiness reported here: once in a blue moon it will work, 95% of the time it hangs immediately while trying to get the user info from the visor. I've tried pilot-link directly and gnome-pilot and experience a similar type of hang with both. It seems there is some confusion in this thread about pressing the button on the cradle. Even under Debian I had to press the button on the cradle to wake up the device and have it establish the USB connection. There has always been a human-level timing issue when using pilot-link with a USB device: you need to press the button on the cradle first, then start pilot-link before the USB device disconnects. The issue of this bug report appears more like a hang that occurs after pilot-link or gnome-pilot establishes the connection with the device. I compiled and installed the 2.6.17.6 kernel and though it usually gets further in the syncing now, it still times out. So it's not clear that simply upgrading the kernel solves the problem. -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
I am sorry you are still having problems, I compiled 2.6.17.1 and now have 100% success. Because dapper uses UDEV I plug my palm in, start jpilot, hit the sync button on my palm then click the sync button on jpilot. I am no expert but can you post your pilot-link output ? Dave -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
I spent about a week in total on this problem, You have upgraded the kernel I assume with 'make oldconfig' after my 'make oldconfig' I had to tweak mine, If you want I will email you my .config, let me know ... Dave -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
Robert, There has always been a human-level timing issue when using pilot-link with a USB device: you need to press the button on the cradle first, then start pilot-link before the USB device disconnects. Actually, gpilotd and gnome-pilotd did *not* have any human-level timing issues in 5.10 -- they worked fine every single time. The issue of this bug report appears more like a hang that occurs after pilot-link or gnome-pilot establishes the connection with the device. If you look at the thread, this bug report covers both the occasional hang as well as more frequent time-outs. -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
Hi all, Syncing problems 100% solved :) - Upgraded kernel to 2.6.17.1 and Palm syncing now works perfectly. So it appears that the default kernel is a bit flaky on the USB front Dave -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake - temporary solution
The following work-around has solved the problem for me -- i.e. the Treo syncs fine _every time_ when I do the following: 1. Open a terminal and kill the panel applet and the daemon: $ killall gpilot-applet gpilotd 2. At the command line, type 'gpilotd', but do NOT press Enter 3. Connect the Treo to the PC, and click the Treo's sync button 4. When the Treo's screen displays the Connecting with the desktop... message, press enter at the command line to run gpilotd So far, it has worked every time I've tried. Hopefully this information will help solve the bug. -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
Hi Gerv, I have tried just about everything I can think of, I have upgraded my kernel, compiled the latest version of pilot-link which uses direct libusb support bypassing the visor module, apt-get install --reinstall numerous packages (you never know) and I still only get 1 in 20ish syncs. I have also tried joining the pilot-link mailing list but there appears to be something wrong with there mail server. I am authenticated and welcomed but cannot send anything to the list. Googling around it appears a lot of people are having problems. I am using my Wifes breezy machine now to sync my Zire 31. Just glad I stumbled across the problems before I did the big dist-upgrade on hers as well :) I guess its a case of wait and see, I am sure it will get resolved, hopefully soon. Dave -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
Thanks for the info, I will go down the build own kernel route at the weekend. Cheers Dave -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 38574] Re: Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake
There's not much more to say on this one... it seems very likely that the problem is with the ubuntu 2.6.15 kernel package and has been fixed in more recent revisions. I'd advise building your own kernel, or raising a bug against the kernel package. -- Pb syncing treo 650 on dapper drake https://launchpad.net/bugs/38574 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
