[Bug 402082] Re: boinc might use /home
Have many thanks, Dino! Steffen ** Changed in: boinc (Ubuntu) Status: New => Invalid -- boinc might use /home https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/402082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 402082] Re: boinc might use /home
hi, Some feedback about Boinc_dir: I've done it & that work fine. 1) stop receiving new workunits 2) wait for loading the least job 3) change boinc_dir (/etc/default/boinc-client) 4) stop boinc 5) sudo cp -R -p /var/lib/boinc-client /home/oem/boinc-client (- R for folder & subfolders, -p to preserve owner, group & rights) 6) sudo dpkg-reconfigure boinc-client 7) close & reboot on the other os: job continue to be done on the previous workunits'os job downloaded. That it: receiving, computing & sending workunits run without problem. * changes made on each boinc installation of course. So, i hope devs follow my ideas & provide settings to customize installation. -- boinc might use /home https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/402082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 402082] Re: boinc might use /home
Many thanks Frank & Steffen, I just read your responses and i'll give back here in 1 or 2 days my experience. I'm very sorry to never think about the hidden README files, but i hope future brinks more custom settings in all that apps wich ignore /home when doing the job. -- boinc might use /home https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/402082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 402082] Re: boinc might use /home
Frank S. Thomas wrote: > On Wednesday 22 July 2009 07:37:24 dino99 wrote: > >> What i wish >> is that apps path workunit can be costumized by user to use /home for the >> reasons i've explained previously, that seem more logical & cant see the >> difficulties to do that. >> > > You should read the fine manual /usr/share/doc/boinc-client/README.Debian and > after that have a look at /etc/default/boinc-client, and change BOINC_DIR to > your liking. > Many thanks, Thomas, I have just reread dino99's original message, I should have indicated that, too. Somehow I had dual boot associated with Windows/Linux, not karmic/jaunty, so I concur that the change to /home might indeed work if the apps are indistinguishable. Also I had understood that multiple apps would work concurrently on that directory, which apparently is not the case. dino99, please be so kind to drop us a not stating if it has worked. Another possibility, possibly preferable because of the physical identity of the applications, might be to mount the var/lib/boinc-client directory from the first into the second OS. Cheers, Steffen -- boinc might use /home https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/402082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 402082] Re: boinc might use /home
On Wednesday 22 July 2009 07:37:24 dino99 wrote: > What i wish > is that apps path workunit can be costumized by user to use /home for the > reasons i've explained previously, that seem more logical & cant see the > difficulties to do that. You should read the fine manual /usr/share/doc/boinc-client/README.Debian and after that have a look at /etc/default/boinc-client, and change BOINC_DIR to your liking. -- boinc might use /home https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/402082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 402082] Re: boinc might use /home
thanks for reply Steffen, i agree with you when you says : "We should leave things as simple as possible". As i've described my config on the first post, i run boinc on 1 computer with dual boot, no network or things complicated here. What i wish is that apps path workunit can be costumized by user to use /home for the reasons i've explained previously, that seem more logical & cant see the difficulties to do that. -- boinc might use /home https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/402082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 402082] Re: boinc might use /home
Hello, dino99 wrote: > What i meant in my first question, is only about the job project (for > example: wgc) . I know about the difference in Jaunty & karmic packages, but > what's about the download computed projects ? i continue to think that should > be done by any os if that work projects was computed into /home instead > /var/lib/ . > The reason why i ask about that: if one of the installed os fail, instead of > loosing the actual job work, the other os can continue the same jobs instead > of downloading new ones. > with how many computer do you share your home directory? As long as BOINC can rest assured that the executing boinc-client knows exactly who is using the BOINC home folder - itself only, it does not need to fight any competitors who otherwise might want to continue a result file that is currently being worked on. And flagging a workunit is not sufficient since the file may be leftover from some system crash. Yes, there are means to circumvent such issues, but this will render the software more complicated. I can even presume that BOINC does it all already, though. Even if your workunit could be shared between work and home and as such be completed earlier - you can almost same as well have one workunit worked at at home and suspend that until you are home again. We should leave things as simple as possible. And if you lose the one or other workunit, or if it comes in later than the deadline - well - in my mind this does matter so much. Also, I don't think that multiple applications should work on the same workunit since it then is unclear in case of a later identified error which workunits should be investigated again. Best, Steffen (who is also with WCG and redid 12 old (5 days overdue) FAAH WUs for which he truly did not receive any credits) -- boinc might use /home https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/402082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 402082] Re: boinc might use /home
Many thanks Robert for all those explanations, very clear & usefull. What i meant in my first question, is only about the job project (for example: wgc) . I know about the difference in Jaunty & karmic packages, but what's about the download computed projects ? i continue to think that should be done by any os if that work projects was computed into /home instead /var/lib/ . The reason why i ask about that: if one of the installed os fail, instead of loosing the actual job work, the other os can continue the same jobs instead of downloading new ones. Hope you understand & see the advantages. -- boinc might use /home https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/402082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 402082] Re: boinc might use /home
The BOINC packages are currently configured on a per-computer basis, not a per-user basis. This has several advantages: * the BOINC client can do work while nobody's logged in * more than one user can control the BOINC instance, as the files are owned by a BOINC user and group * usually, people don't want to have different configurations for different users Per-computer files are supposed to be stored in /var/lib/. Doing what BOINC does on Windows and making a home folder for the BOINC user in /home/ doesn't seem to be the done thing in Debian-based distros. Even in situations, like yours, where putting them in /home seems to make sense, there are potential problems. Jaunty and Karmic's BOINC packages are different versions, and using the same configuration files for those two versions is probably not a great idea. For your particular situation, I'd recommend using the upstream .sh version at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php, rather than Ubuntu's packages. If you run that inside your home directory, it'll install BOINC there, and you can run the binaries it creates from either karmic or jaunty. That way, you'd be using the same version (in fact, the same binaries), and shouldn't have problems. However, since you wouldn't be using Ubuntu packages in this case, it's rather outside the scope of this venue... -- boinc might use /home https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/402082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 402082] Re: boinc might use /home
** Description changed: Binary package hint: boinc hi, here is my config: - i have boinc installed on Jaunty partition sdc2 - my /home is on a dedicated partition sda3 - karmic is installed on sdc5 Now my question: If i install boinc on sdc5 (karmic), why i cant continue working on the current job load with Jaunty boinc ? i dont understand this as the 2 os have the same /home. - It's very frustating when apps dont use /home by default: for me that - smell bad design (dont want to hurt anybody of course) + It's very frustating when apps dont use /home by default: is it a design problem, a misconfiguration ? + How can i set boinc configuration to use /home by default ? -- boinc might use /home https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/402082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
