[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
** Changed in: gdm Importance: Unknown = Low -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
** Changed in: gdm Status: New = Fix Released -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
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[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
This bug was fixed in the package gdm - 2.28.0-0ubuntu2 --- gdm (2.28.0-0ubuntu2) karmic; urgency=low * debian/patches/08_use_polkit_for_settings.patch: - set translatable strings and list the file to translate (lp: #425798) * debian/patches/09_gdmsetup.patch, debian/patches/99_autoreconf.patch: - initialize the translations so the gdmsetup interface is translated (lp: #434102) * debian/patches/17_use_timed_login_after_autologin.patch: - revert upstream change to not use timed login after autologin session (lp: #396489) * debian/patches/18_create_log_dir_when_required.patch: - create the log directory when required (lp: #405227) * debian/gdm.config, debian/gdm.templates: - restore debconf files which have been dropped by error in karmic, thanks Pär Andersson (lp: #395591) -- Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:20:27 +0200 ** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu Karmic) Status: Triaged = Fix Released -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
This bug is about GDM breaking when a user remove system directories that they should never remove. Importance Critical would be ridiculous, I actually think even Medium is too much. It is an incorrect assumption that it is OK to tidy up by running rm -rf /var/log/*. Doing that is never correct, AFAIK /var/cache is the only directory under /var where the FHS say you may remove anything at any time. There is probably many other programs that can't recreate their own log directory, especially programs running as non-root. Only root can write to /var/log, so giving write permissions for other system uid/gid is often the reason that an application have a separate directory under /var/log. (SSD) Users that like to put /var/log on tmpfs will need to sync files to/from it at boot/shutdown, just as if they put any other system directory on tmpfs. If there are guides/howtos suggesting to mount an empty tmpfs on /var/log at boot then those guides needs to be fixed. Here are the relevant parts of FHS[1] and Debian Policy[2]: [1] http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/fhs/fhs-2.3.html#THEVARHIERARCHY [2] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
Say what you wish. Here are two facts: 1) GDM should not explode because its logging directory doesn't exist. Logging is strictly a feature. This statement goes along with every other program that does not inherently require logging. 2) A non-trivial quantity of users will have GDM fail because its logging directory doesn't exist. GDM can a) recreate its logging directory structure, or b) emit a warning; both of these methods are foolproof, simple, and safe. All in all, the dangers of keeping current behavior are great while changing behavior to something less flawed is extremely redeeming. -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
Importance should be Critical. OF COURSE Having a non-functional gdm is just like having a useless machine. -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu) Milestone: None = ubuntu-9.10 ** Also affects: gdm (Ubuntu Karmic) Importance: Low Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) Status: Triaged ** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu Karmic) Importance: Low = Medium -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
Importance should be Critical. This bug bit me in the ass again as the init script, /etc/init.d/gdm, was replaced with /etc/init/gdm.conf. I had to recode the fix into the init file. This is NOT a difficult bug to fix for GDM developers! It is so disappointing that this bug still exists. -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
This bug's priority should be raised to critical. Like Guilhem, many SSD users (that includes some models of EeePCs) use tmpfs for /var/log. -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
Furthermore, damianos' fix is reasonable but should not be included in /etc/init.d/gdm as the logging code is not there. It should instead be in GDM's logging code. -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
Sebastien, as just came up on #ubuntu+1, Many EeePC users have /var/log set to tmpfs, so the proposed init script fix should be adopted until something else is done. I'd go with Damianos' solution. -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
One more thing. I encountered this bug when booting up. However, when GDM failed to start, I was stuck with a blinking white text cursor at the top-left of my black screen and I was not able to Ctrl+Alt+Fn to a prompt. Booting up should fail gracefully. -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
I use /var/log on a tmpfs mount too. I just did the following in /etc/init.d/gdm if [ ! -d /var/log/gdm ]; then mkdir /var/log/gdm fi -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
This bug is quite important for me because my netbook is unusable because of this. To prevent damage on SSD, I use tmpfs for /var/log/ So, I lost all changes and any folder. It make an error for apt, but it's really crazy that gdm stop for this! -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29564955/Dependencies.txt -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
Thank you for your bug report, there is no need to call every small bug a papercut though those are usability issues ** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
The issue is an upstream one and it would be nice if somebody having it could send the bug the to the people writting the software (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/GNOME). They seem to have decided to break if system directories are not available which can make sense, you should not fiddle with things if you don't know what you are doing -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
raised upstream on gnome-bugs, although note that despite any upstream decisions, it could trivially be fixed as a couple of additional `mkdir -p` or `[ -d ... ]` lines in the 'debian/gdm.init' init.d script ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #589862 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589862 ** Also affects: gdm via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589862 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
** Changed in: gdm Status: Unknown = New -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
Right but should the init scripts all try to workaround every way users might have screwed their install? It would add complexity and bugs only to try to workaround users touching things they should not ** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
Well of all the apps I had jnstalled that logged to /var/log/ subdirectory only gdm and apt failed to recreate their chosen subdir on next launch and gdm was the only one that failed to launch because of it. So patching gdm to be consistent with all the other apps included in a default ubuntu install seems a fair proposal to me. As far as I'm concerned /var/log should be as throwaway a dir as /var/tmp and the cache dirs for a user. On 27 Jul 2009, at 13:31, Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com wrote: Right but should the init scripts all try to workaround every way users might have screwed their install? It would add complexity and bugs only to try to workaround users touching things they should not ** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 405227] Re: gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist
I don't argue against fixing this issue, but next you can raise the same concern about deleting the etc directory, etc -- gdm fails to start if /var/log/gdm does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405227 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
