[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
Just to note: the automic sensing is in the driver (jack event) layer, and PA can't easily override it if mixer controls aren't available. This is a somewhat intractable problem, because PA would need a more complete jack event system to override it /and/ mixer support from the driver. I don't see this being fixed before M+1 (11.04) at the earliest. ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Summary changed: - Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic + Allow laptop users to use select mic -- Allow laptop users to use select mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
** Changed in: oem-priority Status: New = Fix Released -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
This may be a duplicate of LP #449781... -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
This issue is partically resolved by linux-backports-modules-alsa- karmic-generic or linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic-pae (depends on the kernel your using). autosensing now work for the XPS 13, though still no way for you to manually choose. So once you plug in the headset. You can't manually choose to take input from the internal mic. You have to unplug the headset. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
Trying out the latest alsa doesn't exactly fix the issue. Though I have been looking and it looks like the issue is with pulse audio. Reading this email: https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio- discuss/2009-June/004229.html Have a lot more understanding now. Looks like the issue is the pulse audio configuration. Some of the captures at the alsa level do not have the same name as those expected. Seems the solution is to add the proper stanzas to the files. Though have not tried this just yet. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
** Changed in: oem-priority Assignee: Canonical Ubuntu QA Team (canonical-qa) = (unassigned) -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
I'm working on adding alsa-driver snapshots to Karmic LBM. This issue isn't gonna get fixed in the Karmic kernel because the regression potential is too high according tohttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/418617/comments/20. ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Critical = Undecided ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
** Also affects: linux-backports-modules-2.6.31 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: linux-backports-modules-2.6.31 (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: linux-backports-modules-2.6.31 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
Some updates on #27 I have found ALC272 shows the connector options. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
Tested Dell mini 9, using ALC268, Karmic 10/4/2009 daily build, connector option shows. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
CX20551 shows the connector option Tried booting karmic live on Toshiba NB205, also using ALC272, but connector option does not show, please refer to the information below: = Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0 Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Simple mixer control 'Mic',0 Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Default PCM',0 Simple mixer control 'Capture',0 Simple mixer control 'Beep',0 Note: my another Dell engineering sample is also using ALC272, but connector option shows in that system. ** Attachment added: toshiba_codec0 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33018926/toshiba_codec0 -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
I can have @leannogasawara put out a wide CFT with instructions on how to test, if there are any special test instructions I'd appreciate if @Jerone or @dtchen would post them here. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
@Pete Instructions to test gather info. 1) Check sound preferences Input tab shows a Connector drop down box to allow you to switch the input for the card. If it does your working. If it does not move to step 2 to gather info on your card. 2) Grab info on sound codec from /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 If that isn't their then /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0 3) Grab info from command amixer scontrols -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
Also to add here is an example of what you should see if things are working ** Attachment added: Working Example http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33006134/Input%20Sound%20Preferences%20on%20Thinkpad%20T61.png -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
Here is an example of things not working ** Attachment added: Not Working Example http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33006887/Sound-Prefrences-on-Thinkpad-X301.png -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
I see the same issue on one of the engineering sample systems: == Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0 Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Simple mixer control 'Front',0 Simple mixer control 'Front Mic',0 Simple mixer control 'Front Mic Boost',0 Simple mixer control 'Capture',0 Simple mixer control 'Beep',0 Simple mixer control 'Input Source',0 === Codec: Realtek ALC269 Address: 0 Function Id: 0x1 Vendor Id: 0x10ec0269 Subsystem Id: 0x1028042b Revision Id: 0x14 No Modem Function Group found Default PCM: rates [0x5f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x1]: PCM Default Amp-In caps: N/A Default Amp-Out caps: N/A GPIO: io=0, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=0, wake=0 Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x1d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x3f, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x39 0x39] Converter: stream=0, channel=0 PCM: rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x1]: PCM Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x1d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x3f, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Converter: stream=0, channel=0 PCM: rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x1]: PCM Node 0x04 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf0: Mono Node 0x05 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf0: Mono Node 0x06 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x211: Stereo Digital Converter: stream=0, channel=0 Digital: Digital category: 0x0 PCM: rates [0x5f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x1]: PCM Node 0x07 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10011b: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x11, nsteps=0x2e, stepsize=0x03, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] Converter: stream=0, channel=0 SDI-Select: 0 PCM: rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x1]: PCM Connection: 1 0x24 Node 0x08 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10011b: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x11, nsteps=0x2e, stepsize=0x03, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x2e 0x2e] Converter: stream=0, channel=0 SDI-Select: 0 PCM: rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x1]: PCM Connection: 1 0x23 Node 0x09 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf0: Mono Node 0x0a [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf0: Mono Node 0x0b [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x92 0x92] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] Connection: 5 0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1d Node 0x0c [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Connection: 2 0x02 0x0b Node 0x0d [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Connection: 2 0x03 0x0b Node 0x0e [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010a: Mono Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00] [0x00] Connection: 2 0x0c 0x0d Node 0x0f [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf0: Mono Node 0x10 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x211: Stereo Digital Converter: stream=0, channel=0 Digital: Digital category: 0x0 PCM: rates [0x5f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000 bits [0xe]: 16 20 24 formats [0x1]: PCM Node 0x11 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400380: Mono Digital Pincap 0x0014: OUT Detect Pin Default 0x41f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Black DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0 Misc = NO_PRESENCE Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0 Connection: 1 0x10 Node 0x12 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x41: Stereo Pincap 0x0020: IN Pin Default 0x99a30920: [Fixed] Mic at Int ATAPI Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown DefAssociation = 0x2, Sequence = 0x0 Misc = NO_PRESENCE Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN Node 0x13 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf0: Mono Node 0x14 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x00010050: OUT EAPD Balanced EAPD 0x2: EAPD Pin Default 0x99130110: [Fixed] Speaker at Int ATAPI Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0 Misc = NO_PRESENCE Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 2 0x0c* 0x0d Node 0x15 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x0001001c: OUT HP EAPD Detect EAPD 0x2: EAPD Pin Default 0x0221401f: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Front Conn = 1/8, Color = Green DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0xf Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP Unsolicited: tag=04, enabled=1 Connection: 2 0x0c* 0x0d Node 0x16 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40010c: Mono Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00,
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
I asked dtchen to provide a test kernel with the bits in it. Once that happens we will need @Jerone to test on as many Dell models that he has access to. @dtchen when the kernel is ready please post the link in the bug -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Pete Graner pgra...@canonical.com wrote: I asked dtchen to provide a test kernel with the bits in it. Once that happens we will need @Jerone to test on as many Dell models that he has access to. @dtchen when the kernel is ready please post the link in the bug Jerone, are there any codecs besides IDT/Sigmatel that I need to be aware of? -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
@Daniel Yes. I'll list what I found so far though from. Also it's not all IDT codecs, as I found some work. Some codecs not showing connectors -- Realtek ID 665 IDT 92HD73C1X5 Realtek ALC272 Conexant CX20561 Monday will try and get more. Though these where the ones I found last week not working. Maybe something to also prompt the community about to try and get wider hardware testing. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
** Also affects: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Critical ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Tim Gardner (timg-tpi) -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
I have a list of machines not showing the microphone. My guess is it may be how the driver on these cards is labeling the capture inputs? These are using Karmic beta 1 build as of (9/22). Dell - (both on dell.com/ubuntu) Mini 10v Studio XPS 13 Also found the issue on two unreleased Dell machines. That are coming out soon. Lenovo --- X301 This issue appaears on some machines, but not on others. Will pos alsa codec data and lspci data for these machines. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
I'll also need amixer data. On Oct 1, 2009 6:40 PM, Jerone Young jerone.yo...@canonical.com wrote: I have a list of machines not showing the microphone. My guess is it may be how the driver on these cards is labeling the capture inputs? These are using Karmic beta 1 build as of (9/22). Dell - (both on dell.com/ubuntu) Mini 10v Studio XPS 13 Also found the issue on two unreleased Dell machines. That are coming out soon. Lenovo --- X301 This issue appaears on some machines, but not on others. Will pos alsa codec data and lspci data for these machines. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic http... -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
Jerone, I don't think this is a generic bug. PulseAudio is trying to do the right thing, but as I mentioned in a previous bug, the auto- generated HW profiles only work as well as the information Pulse is fed. On my 13 Macbook running Karmic Beta, my default Hardware Profile as displayed by gnome-volume-control preferences, is Analog Stereo Duplux. The displayed soundcard icon includes the following text: Internal Audio 1 Output / 1 Input Analog Stereo Duplex If I click the Input tab, I see single device listed Internal Audio Analog Stereo. I also see a combo box for Connector which allows me to switch between Line-In ( the usual external mic connector ) and Microphone. So, in theory, if ALSA reports things correctly *and* your kernel version of your ALSA codec fully supports your system, it should be possible to switch inputs via the gnome-volume-control preferences. That said, this *almost* works on my machine. I'm able to capture sound via the microphone, but when I re-configure to capture from the Line-In, I had problems. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
Here is data from my X301: jer...@ubuntu:~$ amixer scontrols Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Default PCM',0 Simple mixer control 'Docking Mic',0 Simple mixer control 'External Mic',0 Simple mixer control 'Internal Mic',0 ** Attachment added: codec info for Thinkpad X301 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32839053/Thinkpad_x301_codec -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
Here is data a Studio XPS 13: amixer scontrols: Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0 Simple mixer control 'Headphone',1 Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Simple mixer control 'Mic Jack Mode',0 Simple mixer control 'Mic Mixer',0 Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Simple mixer control 'Capture',0 Simple mixer control 'Capture',1 Simple mixer control 'Amp',0 Simple mixer control 'DAC Mixer',0 Simple mixer control 'Digital Input Source',0 Simple mixer control 'Digital Input Source',1 Simple mixer control 'PC Beep',0 Simple mixer control 'Speaker',0 ** Attachment added: Dell XPS 13 codec info http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32839230/xps_codec -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Tony Espy e...@canonical.com wrote: So, in theory, if ALSA reports things correctly *and* your kernel version of your ALSA codec fully supports your system, it should be possible to switch inputs via the gnome-volume-control preferences. Well, it's also dependent on using the very newest alsa-driver/linux. Unfortunately all the mic autoselect code was committed long after the last freeze, and somehow I doubt Tim/Andy will smile upon my proposal to chuck all that code into sound/pci/hda/* at this stage... -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
@Daniel You should bring it their way as this is a major functional bug. Basic use case is users have no way to user their headsets to use voip applications. @Tony In these cases the Connector tab isn't even shown to allow you to switch the input. Though on others it is. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
Here is a picture of what input tab in sound prefrences looks like on my X301. Regardless of the profile I choose I get no Connetors box. ** Attachment added: Sound-Prefrences-on-Thinkpad-X301.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32839673/Sound-Prefrences-on-Thinkpad-X301.png -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
Jerone, again it's not really a PulseAudio bug it's more a ALSA driver bug. This part of the problem with the way we lock down our kernel for releases... we're stuck with what's in the stable kernel release that was chosen, and in general, do very little back-porting of ALSA code unless it's an OEM deal ( usually post-release ). -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
Ouch. So from a Canonical prospective this is bad. For the Dell XPS 13 we are actually under contract to enable it in the standard distribution. One of those is microphone. So we have an issue for this it even being certified for Karmic. This going be fun ;-) Jerone On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 00:04 +, Tony Espy wrote: Jerone, again it's not really a PulseAudio bug it's more a ALSA driver bug. This part of the problem with the way we lock down our kernel for releases... we're stuck with what's in the stable kernel release that was chosen, and in general, do very little back-porting of ALSA code unless it's an OEM deal ( usually post-release ). -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
My soundcard has multiple inputs and they are exposed through gnome- volume control. ** Attachment added: multiple-inputs.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32761636/multiple-inputs.png -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
@Brian Yes. Actually I am gathering info now. Some soundcards don't seem to show it though. So i'm gathering info on those that don't show it. Can you add /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 to the bug. Trying to nail down which cards are ok and which are not. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
That file does not exist instead I have a codec97#0 directory. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
** Changed in: oem-priority Importance: Undecided = Medium -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
FWIW, I never had two different ALSA devices on my machine here; the external jack just supersedes the internal mike if I plug in an external microphone. To clarify this: I actually _do_ have two alsa input devices, one for the builtin mike/jack, and one for my USB headset. I specifically meant that I do not have two separate alsa input devices for the internal mic and the mic jack. I think that the gnome-media volume control does not yet allow the user to switch between input/output devices to control, whereas pavucontrol does. I can properly switch between them using the pulse mixer applet (well, the one that we have by default now, I'm not actually sure whether this is considered a part of pulse or gnome-media now), so from alsa upwards everything seems to be just fine. The question here is whether linux/alsa could expose the mic jack as a separate input device. Reassigning to alsa now. Luke, Daniel, do you know how to find out whether Jerone's laptop is actually physically able to control the mic jack separately? Or Jerone, does that actually work in e. g. Windows? ** Package changed: gnome-media (Ubuntu) = alsa-driver (Ubuntu) -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
@Martin Ah. to add all of these mic mixers are apart of the same card (codec). So the problem is pulseaudio is not exposing multiple inputs on the same card. Since you have a USB headset that shows up as a 2nd sound input. But if that USB headset had 2 inputs .. pulseaudio would only expose one. So you can easily switch between cards (codecs). But if that card has more then one input it is not exposed. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
@Martin No I am not using Windows. All the mic mixers are exposed at the ALSA layer. This is something very much working in 9.04 below and now completely regressed in the new pulseaudio system in 9.10. It is no just my system but Dell laptops as well. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
all of these mic mixers are apart of the same card (codec). So the problem is pulseaudio is not exposing multiple inputs on the same card. Ah, thanks for clarifying. ** Package changed: alsa-driver (Ubuntu) = pulseaudio (Ubuntu) -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
FWIW, I never had two different ALSA devices on my machine here; the external jack just supersedes the internal mike if I plug in an external microphone. So if at all, this is an alsa/kernel issue. (I don't know whether it's actually physically possible to treat them as two devices). Jerone, is that a karmic regression, or has it always been that way? Luke, can you please add some wisdom about where this bug belongs, and whether it's possible to do something here? Thanks! ** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu) Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) = Luke Yelavich (themuso) -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
What ubuntu version do you use? Not sure if that's a pulseaudio issue or a capplet one, I don't have several mic to try but devices should be listed in the sound capplet -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
To follow up on this more I bring the example of the Lenovo Thinkpad. It has 3 ways of recording audio: 1) internal mic 2) mic jack 3) dock mic * if your on a docking station you can have a microphone attached. This is a seperate codec (mixer) from the mic jack. Exactly how does a user use the doc mic ? This is why you cannot have everything be automatic as you make assumtions that may not be true for all users. In this case a user could have a mic plugged into the dock, but wants to use their headset to record. Maybe both just happened to be plugged in and they want to use the internal mic as they have many friends who want to chat who are with them. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
** Changed in: oem-priority Status: Incomplete = Confirmed ** Changed in: oem-priority Status: Confirmed = New -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
It's not automatic. If it's supposed to be it doesn't work. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
Yes. There should also be a way for me to switch it manually. I may have something plugged in but not want to use it. -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
** Changed in: oem-priority Assignee: (unassigned) = Canonical Ubuntu QA Team (canonical-qa) -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 418617] Re: Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic
The switching from internal microphone to one attached to the microphone jack should happen automatically. But I think what you are saying is that there should be a way change inputs as a fallback method in the event that this fails. Is that correct? ** Changed in: oem-priority Status: New = Incomplete -- Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic jack attached mic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418617 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
