[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Steve Langasek]

af-fsfe,

I understand your frustration at this regression.  Please realize,
though, that filesystem-level encryption of /home is at the bottom of a
long list of disk encryption solutions that should be preferred over
this in all but the most specific of corner cases:

 - full-disk encryption of a single partition including / and /home
 - encryption of a single LVM VG containing both / and /home filesystems
 - disk-level encryption of /, /home on a separate unencrypted filesystem using 
ecryptfs for user-level encryption
 - passphrase-based encryption of /, with keyfile-based encryption of other 
partitions

All of the above work in karmic; the only configuration that really
doesn't work is passphrase-based encryption of disks other than the root
partition.  This is a bug, certainly, and will be resolved for the 10.04
LTS release; but it was not a blocker for the 9.10 release, with reason.

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[af-fsfe]

I am using an encrypted home partition, and I experience the same
problem as GOo in #13 _although_ I am using the "bootwait" option in
/etc/fstab. However, using "bootwait" on /home should not have any
effect anyway.

There are currently lots of bugs related to this issue, and bug reports
seem to overlap.

I have been using Ubuntu from the beta of Warty Warthog, and this is the
third release that broke my encryption setup, which is not complex at
all anyway. I know I am being unprofessional now, but this SUCKS, guys.
It really should be possible to mount an encrypted home at system boot
without months of bug-reporting. Karmic is final, is it?

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Steve Langasek]

This bug is also fixed in lucid, where plymouth is now used to serialize
all passphrase prompts and other boot time interaction.

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   Status: Triaged => Fix Released

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Steve Langasek]

T.O.D.,

> When ubuntu asks me for the second passwd for my data, Ubuntu still
caries on booting and x is starting.

The solution for this is documented in the Ubuntu 9.10 release notes at 
.

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Re: [Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Ulrich Lukas]

Hi Tod,


as a workaround, I suggest that you use a custom init script
containing the "cryptsetup luksOpen..." and mount commands.

Or switch to openSuse; they have a maintainer who actually maintains
this.

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[T.O.D.]

Hi

I have a encrypted hdd and in it it looks like:

encrypted hdd 
(enter passwd)
--  root (/) not encrypted
-- home (/home) encrypted
(asks for pw,can type it)
-- data (/mnt/data) encrypted
(ask for pw, cant type it)

I i use the solution from above i cant boot anymore cause my hdd
encryption is not gonna be decrypted.

When ubuntu asks me for the second passwd for my data, Ubuntu still
caries on booting and x is starting.

Thanks

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Saïvann Carignan]

>So, isn't it a solution to simply make root filesystem depend on
>cryptsetup in cases where interactive input is needed? I.e. when no
>other (xsplash, key file) method is used?

Actually, root filesystem already depends on cryptsetup by design when
root partition is encrypted, since it will never get mounted until
cryptsetup prompt gets the good passphrase (therefore upstart wait in
that situation). In other situations, it's not possible to make
filesystem "depends" on cryptsetup since filesystem is a event, not a
task. This bug only concern cryptsetup installations which does not
mount root filesystem AFAIK.

>What if any of the essential directories (/var, /home, ...) reside on
>other filesystems, are mounted onto the root filesystem, like when
>encrypted or on a remote server and might not be available yet?

That is a very interesting question, I wouldn't be able to answer that
(I'm not a developer myself). My guess is that everything except / is
ignored since many other mount point can be necessary or not for the
system, depending on the distribution and many other variables (ex. :
/var, /media/*) . I guess that there is many chances that it's not
upstart job to look at all these mount points and decide which ones are
really needed since there are many many possibilities, unless upstart
follows some FHS specification, but I might be wrong. I don't know how
upstart handle these cases, but I think that it only react to the event
of / becoming mounted and readable/writable.

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Re: [Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Ulrich Lukas]

> but the computer does not need other filesystem than root to be mounted 
> to boot correctly, therefore it makes no sense to depend on 
> other filesystems then root.


What if any of the essential directories (/var, /home, ...) reside on
other filesystems, are mounted onto the root filesystem, like when
encrypted or on a remote server and might not be available yet?

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Re: [Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Ulrich Lukas]

vbar wrote:
> cryptsetup can't have the power to stop <- why not?

Because that would interfere with Ubuntu's boot speed ambitions, I
recon. I.e. there might be cases (e.g. with key files, RFID-cards etc.)
where it might make sense to continue booting while cryptsetup does its
work unattendedly.


Saïvann Carignan wrote:
> That is why cryptsetup prompt only works when
> root filesystem depends on cryptsetup

So, isn't it a solution to simply make root filesystem depend on
cryptsetup in cases where interactive input is needed? I.e. when no
other (xsplash, key file) method is used?

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Saïvann Carignan]

vbar : Giving the ability to a software to freeze the boot can lead to
many problems, this is not how upstart works. Upstart let you do it in a
very more flexible way as you can define which tasks require each other,
which slightly reduce probabilities of boot problems. This concept boost
boot preformances by starting tasks by events, and many tasks at the
same time.

What you say is already implemented, most of task depend on root
filesystem, but the computer does not need other filesystem than root to
be mounted to boot correctly, therefore it makes no sense to depend on
other filesystems then root. If your Windows NTFS partition doesn't want
to mount because it is unclean, or if your fstab is misconfigured, would
you be happy to see your computer wait infinitely for it? Anyhow, there
is no reason why the computer wouldn't continue to boot at the same time
that it asks your password.

This bug only need something to be done that would be compatible with
new setup. As I said earlier, maybe that implementing password prompt
via xsplash would be a potential solution. Ubuntu developer probably
alreaday have a idea about how to fix this problem in the future.

Until that moment, it's possible to mount a cryptsetup partition from
initramfs or directly in GNOME, so technically speaking, no real feature
as been lost in this bug. Cryptsetup simply needs to be configured
differently than before.

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[vbar]

cryptsetup can't have the power to stop <- why not?
If I need the filesystems, everything depends on it, so everything else should 
wait (or at least it should be possible to set that manually). I mean, if I 
don't set the noauto option in crypttab, I want 'auto' and not manual.

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Saïvann Carignan]

AFAIK, The reason is that upstart never wait for a task to end before
starting another one, unless a task depend on the first task. No task
depends on cryptsetup and actually no task should depend on it. However,
many tasks depend on root filesystem and won't start until filesystem
gets available. That is why cryptsetup prompt only works when root
filesystem depends on cryptsetup.

Therefore the best way to handle this at the moment is really throught
initramfs as once the system starts to boot, cryptsetup can't have the
power to stop the computer from booting. If xsplash is about to have
that functionnality, a potential fix would be to ask the passphrase
through xsplash like it did in the past with usplash, at the exception
that xsplash would need to hide gdm or prevent the login screen to
appear until user answered the prompt.

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Re: [Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[gkey]

To me it seems that cryptsetup has two startup scripts (in /etc/init.d):

cryptdisks-early
cryptdisks

AFAIK both read /etc/crypttab and cryptdisks-early reads the 1st line
(probably what's needed to boot) and cryptdisks reads the remaining lines.
For some reason upstart doesn't wait for the entry of passwords at the
prompt of cryptdisks.

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[vbar]

@Ulrich Lukas
I agree that only encrypting home, var, tmp.. is a good way to secure personal 
data while keeping the system fast.  
@5tan
Indeed security is gone if someone unnoticedly gets hardware access and returns 
modified hardware/software; This is true even if the whole root filesystem is 
encrypted too (think of hardware keylogger/editing mbr code...).

There are several bug reports concerning broken/hidden/vanished
cryptsetup password promt at boot and I can not understand why this
should not be a serious bug.

I recently changed from opensuse 11.2 to xubuntu 9.10, because of kde3 not 
beeing supported anymore and kde4 too memory consuming for my laptop. I have an 
encrypted data partition with home var tmp  
After updating crypttab of newly installed xubuntu, I am prompted for my 
password at boot, but I have to enter the password fast before the prompt is 
gone.
see 475293 468208 468208 461442 

Tried to use cryptmount(-early) etc. instead of crypttab. Doesn't work
yet automatically, though invoking cryptmount-early init script manually
asks for password and creates /dev/mapper/... entry

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Cédric Dufour]

@5tan: Strange, my 'target=...' in '/etc/initramfs/conf.d/cryptroot' IS
respected in my two LUKS setups, one on Karmic and the other one still
on Jaunty.

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[5tan]

Cédric Dufour,
You right! In my testing system target is /dev/mapper/cryptroot and it was OK. 
But when I try change it to anything else... device path is still 
/dev/mapper/cryptroot

source=/dev/SOMETHING (where SOMETHING means something like hda2, sda1,
sda2, ...) should also work, but your way is probably better for almost
all cases.

"best practices": with not encrypted libraries, executables, etc. any
person with usb-live or cd-live and access to your computer can replace
your libraries and executables with "extended" functionality (it can
write on disk or send by network your files and/or passwords) Anyway: I
can see benefits not encrypted libraries, executables... And YES, not
encrypting of root in some cases may be reasonable. :)

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Cédric Dufour]

Well, the EXACT (and USB-disk-proof) syntax is:
  echo 'target=#TARGET#,source=/dev/disk/by-uuid/#UUID#' > 
/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot
(thus leading to a '/dev/mapper/#TARGET#' device; otherwise, you get a 
'/dev/mapper/cryptroot' device)

Also, make sure to add the proper modules in '/etc/initramfs-tools/modules'. 
Mine are:
  dm_crypt
  aes_i586
  gf128mul
  lrw
(this depends on which ciphers you use; 'diff' the 'lsmod' output before/after 
activating the LUKS partition to find out which additional modules may be 
needed)

As for "best practices": I personally see no benefits (more like
drawbacks) in encrypting my system libraries, executables, package
cache, etc. on a netbook with a slow CPU...

Cheers

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Re: [Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Steve Langasek]

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 03:41:56AM -, Ulrich Lukas wrote:
> While I admit that that concerns a smaller number of installations,
> using a non-encrypted root partition with encrypted /home, /tmp, /var is
> best practice

It most certainly is not best practice.

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[5tan]

First, I'm sorry for my bad english, but I want help with this
cryptsetup problem :)

Saïvann Carignan: according to:
> My /etc/crypttab file contains this :
> X /dev/sda7 none luks
> 
> My /etc/fstab file contains this :
> /dev/mapper/X /media/X ext4 defaults,relatime 0 0

echo 'CRYPTROOT=target=pvcrypt,source=/dev/sda1' > 
/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot
should be:
echo 'CRYPTROOT=target=X,source=/dev/sda7' > 
/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot

And I advice to make copy of initrd - for kernel 2.6.31-14-generic it should be:
cp /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic.copy

*For other currently running kernel number 
cp /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r`.copy


AND call update-initramfs with -k option
update-initramfs -u -k `uname -r`

For what? If initrd.img won't boot system then in grub start menu we
need edit line with copy of initrd.img

And again: I'm very sorry for my english

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Ulrich Lukas]

Thanks for the reply and the workarounds, but please consider that there
are systems with custom kernels and without an initramfs.

While I admit that that concerns a smaller number of installations,
using a non-encrypted root partition with encrypted /home, /tmp, /var is
best practice if you run Ubuntu on a portable computer.

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Saïvann Carignan]

Ulrich Lukas : Please don't change the bug status, Triaged is more
appropriate than Confirmed here. As mentionned in previous comments,
this bug affect very rare user customisations where the root filesystem
does not depend on cryptsetup. In your case, you can easily use a
workaround to enjoy Karmic without that bug, you just need to edit /etc
/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot so usplash ask you the passphrase from
the initramfs (before ubuntu starts to boot, like when you install
ubuntu on cryptsetup partitions using ubuntu alternate CD).

Or you can simply copy these commands (in good order) in a terminal (and
take care to change /dev/sda1 by the device name of your real cryptsetup
partition). These will do all the job for you.

sudo bash
echo 'CRYPTROOT=target=pvcrypt,source=/dev/sda1' > 
/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot
update-initramfs -u

If you need more assistance, please don't comment in the bug report, you
can contact me directly if you want, or use ubuntuforums or launchpad
answers.

** Changed in: cryptsetup (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Triaged

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Ulrich Lukas]

Hi, Steve,

the current situation is unbearable.

If I set up my encrypted /home exactly like all the HOWTOs say (i.e.
manually after installation), the password prompt is not accessible
unless switching back to the first text console. (And even there the
password prompt is horribly broken and cluttered with other boot
messages, but that is another story)

This is breaking working setups.

Unless the password prompt functionality is added to upstart, xsplash or
KDM (or GDM) in the next few days, leaving things as they are is a
really bad option prior to the impending Karmic release.

** Changed in: cryptsetup (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => Confirmed

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Saïvann Carignan]

Steve Langasek : You probably means "upstart"? Anyway that sounds
correct AFAIK, unless there was some easy way to prompt the password
through xsplash rather than usplash or console. Since root filesystem
does not depend on cryptsetup in this case, upstart does not need to
wait on cryptsetup while it asks the password, the real problem here is
simply that cryptsetup prompt is not accessible. Is there such feature
in xsplash that I could take a look at in order to bring a potential
fix?

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Steve Langasek]

Having looked into this, it's too much effort to bother with to get
usplash /not/ started in initramfs for the case where cryptsetup is not
needed for the rootfs; so I'm wontfix'ing this bug for karmic and
downgrading it since we effectively will always have usplash already
running before reaching this point.

** Changed in: cryptsetup (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Triaged => Won't Fix

** Changed in: cryptsetup (Ubuntu)
   Importance: High => Low

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Steve Langasek]

As of the latest upload of initramfs-tools, this should be working
again, but only by accident: cryptsetup is now setting up usplash
unconditionally in the initramfs, whereas it should only do this if it's
needed for decrypting the root filesystem or swap.  So I'm leaving this
bug open since we should have a separate check for usplash in the
cryptdisks init script using whatever mechanism will be used for fsck
prompting.

** Changed in: cryptsetup (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: cryptsetup (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Triaged

** Also affects: cryptsetup (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Importance: High
   Status: Triaged

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Saïvann Carignan]

** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32180333/Dependencies.txt

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[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

[Saïvann Carignan]

Scott James Remnant : subscribed at your request in bug 430496 since it
does not seem to be fixed in that situation.

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