[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-05-12 Thread Alek
I'm having the same problem:

- disconnect every 30 secs or so, then automatically connects again for 30 sec, 
then disconnects, and so forth
- win xp works fine
- using WPA-PSK, TKIP
- on Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Net
- laptop lenovo 3000 N200 0769
- Ubuntu 10.04 64bit
- this is in the office, on WEP everything works fine (at home)

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-05-12 Thread Smot
This has not been fixed in 10.04 - drop outs still occur regularly.

Is anyone from the kernel team actually looking into this at all?

I'm fed up having to boot into Windows just to post messages like this!

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-05-01 Thread Adam Niedling
Could a developer confirm that Ubuntu does not support TKIP?

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-04-29 Thread linusr
http://techviewz.org/2009/06/how-to-configure-ubuntu-810-904-for.html

looks Ubuntu ships without TKIP support... should this be in known
issues list?

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-04-07 Thread Edward Liang
At several points, I had it working somehow after messing around for a
bit. However, it would break whenever I suspended my computer. Once,
after resuming, the system reported an error of the wpa_supplicant.
Perhaps it is an issue with that.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-04-06 Thread Benjamim
Same problem here, not solving Security Type : TKIP. Windows 7, no problem, you 
just have to write the PIN and the PASSWORD, it is an Ubuntu BUG !!!
bbbenjy

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-04-02 Thread Ichimonji10
Well, I'm going back to school for another five weeks. I'm not really a
coder, so I'll leave it to others to look into source code and such.
However, I do have a few more ideas for tests that can be performed.

This entire bug is predicated on the idea that a certain type of
encryption wreaks havoc with Ubuntu's ability to use Wireless. So, I
would perform some tests whereby a WAP is set to use several types of
encryption, such as WEP and various WPA flavors. The test outcome should
look something like this:

Location 1
WEP: n dB
WPA: n dB
WPA TKIP: ndB
WPA2: n dB

Location 2
WEP: n dB
WPA: n dB
WPA TKIP: ndB
WPA2: n dB

And so on. If anyone else wants to do some testing, feel free.
Otherwise, wait a few weeks and I'll do it myself.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-03-31 Thread Ichimonji10
Nice program there -- I've never used wavemon before. In all my previous
tests, I was just repeatedly issuing iwconfig and averaging the results.

I don't see the same results as you, where your signal repeatedly drops
really low. I do get the occasional drop in signal quality, but it's
neither as pronounced nor as consistent as what you see. Still, the
basic effect is the same. Ubuntu doesn't properly sense wireless
signals, and thus connection quality fails. I wouldn't be surprised if
your occasional drop in signal quality is enough to kill your
connection, especially if it lasts for more than a second.

I've mentioned that I want to figure out what the broadcast power is
under Vista. I couldn't find any way to directly measure how much power
is being sent to my wireless card under Vista, but I designed a test
that effectively tells me the same thing. I logged into my WAP/Router,
and found a tool which reports the signal quality of devices
communicating with the WAP. The tool does not report signal quality in
dB or nW, but rather as a percentage (of the theoretical best connection
quality).

So, I went to various locations around my house, started pinging google
with my laptop, and looked at the signal quality as reported by the WAP.
Note that the location numbers below correspond with the location
numbers I gave in post #29.

Location 1
Ubuntu: 100%
Vista: 100%

Location 2
Ubuntu: 90+%
Vista: 99-100%

Location 3
Ubuntu: 100%
Vista: 100%

#--#

So what does it all mean? Here's my best shot at interpreting these
numbers thus far.

If a computer and WAP are having trouble communicating, then there are four 
possible problems. 
1) WAP is not properly sending a signal.
2) WAP is not properly receiving a signal.
3) Computer is not properly sending a signal.
4) Computer is not properly receiving signal.

I know, this is really broad so far, but stick with me for a few
paragraphs.

Case 1 and 2 are immediately ruled out. There are several different
wireless devices in my house which use the WAP. My iPod touch, two other
family members' laptops, and my own laptop (running Vista) all
communicate with the WAP just fine. If the WAP was not properly sending
or receiving signals, all the other people in this household would be
having problems, too. Furthermore, my computer only has problems when
running Ubuntu, further indicating that the problem lies with a
particular computer, not the WAP.

Case 3 is also ruled out. Why? Well, the tests I just performed indicate
that the WAP receives signals just fine, whether Vista or Ubuntu is
broadcasting those signals. I verified this empirically in this post.
The absolute lowest quality signal that the WAP sensed was 90%. A signal
quality that high should be just fine for communication.

Furthermore, I did some research on the intertubes, and several
technical folks seem to think that 100mW of power being sent to a
wireless card is more than enough. As I understood it, 80mW of power is
the point of diminishing returns -- send more power than that to a
wireless card, and you're not getting much benefit. They were even
discussing using 30 to 40mW of power in wireless cards. Therefore, the
100mW of power that Ubuntu sends to my wireless card should be plenty
enough.

So far, cases 1, 2, and 3 are ruled out. My WAP is working just fine
(case 1 and 2), and a strong enough signal is being sent to from my
laptop (case 3). That leaves case 4: Ubuntu is not properly receiving
signals. I verified this empirically in post #29. Now, why and how
Ubuntu fails to receive signals is up for debate. Perhaps, as Smot
indicates, Ubuntu is simply under-estimating signal strength. Maybe
Ubuntu tells the wireless card to listen to the wrong frequency/channel.
This is, by the way, possible: the frequencies defined for use in the
802.11 standard are SO close that one could be listening on channel 10
and receive signals on channel 11.

#--#

Well, that was a long-winded way of saying that Ubuntu has problems. :'(

Thanks for the feedback, Smot.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-03-30 Thread Smot
Thanks for some really useful info, ichimonji10. I haven't been able to
get such empirical measurements as you, but your results do agree with
the symptoms I get here.

When booted into Vista, wifi availability throughout my house is good -
I never experience any dropouts. With Ubuntu 9.10, the connection drops
frequently. It's not a regular as clockwork thing as sometimes it will
stay connected for an hour or so, then other times I can't stay online
for more than a few minutes. Sometimes it reconnects quickly, but mostly
I struggle to get it to reconnect and have to give up and return to
Vista.

Is the bit of software Vistumbler freely available? I could run it at
home to give some comparative results to your.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-03-30 Thread Ichimonji10
Vistumbler is free, and available for download at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/vistumbler/

I was also looking for a program that would tell me my wireless transmit
power under Vista. I found a program called WirelessMon that almost does
the trick... but the TxPower field says N/A. WirelessMon has a free 30
day trial.

Thanks for the feedback, Smot.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-03-30 Thread Smot
I've installed Vistumbler, and under Vista, sitting in my usual
armchair, I get a consistent -47db. Using wavemon in Ubuntu, in the same
place, it sits mostly at -60db and, roughly every 2 seconds drops
dramatically to -80db for a brief moment.

I'm wondering if this occasional drop is sufficiently low for the
connection to be lost.

Do you see the same effect in your environment?

Also, interestingly, I can see around 8 wifi networks available in my
area within Vista, but generally only three or four in the Network
Manager list in Ubuntu. Very often, mine is the only one listed while
another family member (using Windows 7) can see many more.

I may be wrong, but I'm not aware of a way in which the receptive
strength of a wifi interface can be altered by software. The
implication is that Ubuntu is somehow under-estimating the strength of
signals, and making incorrect decisions on connectivity based on this
evaluation.

Let's hope The Powers That Be have taken note of your signal strength
findings!

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-03-29 Thread Ichimonji10
Aside from restarting my computer, the surest way to reset my wireless 
connection is to issue:
sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart

I've tried turning off power management and increasing broadcast signal 
strength. Hey, maybe the problem lies not in Ubuntu, but in the wireless signal 
strength? Turning off power management did little. I tried issuing this:
sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
While that command sucessfully turned off power management, doing so did not 
help me with my wireless connection. I also tried changing signal strength:
sudo iwconfig wlan0 txpower 120mW
OR
sudo iwconfig wlan0 txpower 25
However, neither of these commands completed sucessfully. I can, however, lower 
the broadcast strength of my wireless signal. For example, I can set the 
txpower to less than 100mW, and less than 20dBm. It appears that there is a 
limit on how much power I can sent to my wireless card. My default signal 
strength is 20dBm anyway, so these settings don't help me.

I suspect that the problem with my connection, may be as simple as a low 
broadcast power. Here's why:
1) From where I'm sitting, my laptop detects a connection strength of approx. 
-77dBm. It varies between -73 and -83. (oops -- my connection just dropped. 
Moving closer to WAP)
2) From where I'm sitting, my iPod touch detects a connection strength of 
approx -57dBm. It also varies between -53 and -61.
3) Both my wireless router, my iPod touch, and my laptop all include wireless N 
capable chipsets. All devices are operating at the 2.462GHz frequency.
4) All other (two) laptops used in this house have no problems connecting to 
WAP. They use wireless G. 
5) Even when my laptop is THREE feet away from WAP, signal strength is still 
-55dBm (-53 to -59). That is TERRIBLE. iPod touch reports signal strength 
between -32 and -42 dBm. 
6)From experimentation at school, I have found that my iPod touch does not 
establish a wireless connection if signal strength is below -75dBm. As a good 
rule of thumb, I try to make sure that the signal strength is above -72dBm. 
7) When running Vista on this laptop, connection strength is MUCH better. I'll 
have to boot into Vista to check out how it treats wireless.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-03-29 Thread Ichimonji10
I've done a little testing, using both Vista SP2 and Ubuntu 9.10 on my
laptop. I went around to various locations in my house and tested the
signal level my laptop was sensing. I used iwconfig to test the sensed
signal level under Ubuntu and Vistumbler to test the sensed signal level
under Vista. I do not yet know how to test transmit power (in either mW
or dBm) under Vista, so that set of tests will have to wait.

Location 1
Ubuntu: -67 to -75dB
Vista: -44dB

Location 2
Ubuntu: -79 to -87dB
Vista: -59dB

Location 3
Ubuntu: -68dB
Vista: -44dB

For what it's worth, I'm still using WPA2 security. I checked the
transmit signal strength on my WAP, and it's set to high (though it gave
no actual numbers -- just the option of low, medium, and high). So far,
it looks like I'm still having the same bug as the rest of you guys.
I'll post more more stuff as I figure this mystery out.

BTW, do you all have the same symptoms as me? Or am I waaay off here?
i.e. do you all have similar oddities with received signal strength
under ubuntu vs other OSs?

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-03-10 Thread Chronon
I have AR928X chipset (Eee PC 1000HEB) and have had this problem with
9.10 and now with 10.04 (not with previous versions).  I am using WPA
(TKIP).

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-03-08 Thread Henry Goldstein
Same problem here.  I've been running Ubuntu 9.10 on a new Asrock ION
330HT for a week or so now.Wireless degrades over time after boot,
and becomes pretty much useless.  Wireless is mixed WPA/WPA2+WEP, and
I'm using a passphrase for WEP and ascii psk for WPA (both Draytek Vigor
2800vn and a Linksys router used as an access point).I'm considering
experimenting with changing to hex WEP and WPA keys, but am hoping that
I won't have to, and that someone will come up with a definitive
solution.

As I use wireless on the Asrock only to streaming media, I could
probably do without encryption, but it would be nice to get the whole
system working (as it is for this Windows notebook I'm typing on now ).

I've tried wicd, but gave up after quite a lot of trying to sort out a
template that would work with my existing wireless router set-up.

I'll keep coming back to Launchpad to see how the community is getting
on.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-02-16 Thread Kelly Harding
Seems to have same problems with Lucid Alpha2 on my Aspire One.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-02-13 Thread reibian
Joining the party with Sony VGN-FE53B
Despite all the tips I got from the Ubuntu community to run various commands, 
like
dhclient -r 
ifdown 
ifup
/etc/init.d/networking/ restart  (all under *sudo*), 
restarting the whole system is the surest way to get the wireless back after 
involuntary disconnects from the router so far. Help!

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-02-12 Thread glycotrainer
Having same issue.

As reported by other users, I did not have this problem w/ Jaunty.
Disconnects when connected via WPA2. Disconnects during downloads.

Oblivious to hardware make/models, but laptop is a Sony VGN-NW240F.

Sometimes Network Manager reconnects automatically, but most of the time
I'm prompted for WPA key. When at home I type it in, when I'm not at
home I have to restart. Sometimes key is accepted, but most times I have
to restart. As already expressed by others, this is an extreme pain in
the rear.

Just now (reason I looked for a solution) it has disconnected like 10
times while I try to DL a Linux Mint .iso.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-02-06 Thread pr100
I take it back... it worked fine with wicd initially. But now I'm seeing
exactly the same problem. The strange thing is that either it's rock
solid or very flaky; and you get either one thing or the other whenever
you reboot.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-02-05 Thread pr100
I had this problem with my dell vostro 1510 laptop. It was fine before
upgrading to karmic, and then frequent disconnects after the upgrade.

I installed wicd instead of network manager that it works fine, so it
does indeed seem that th eproblem is with network manager.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-01-22 Thread Smot
I've just reported bug #505224 as a duplicate of this. It contains some
syslog info which may help understanding the cause of this problem.

To cap it all, my laptop dropped off the network trying to file this
comment.

Trevor

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-01-17 Thread David Tomaschik
Romel: are you using WPA2+AES?  Most of those who have reported the
issue have systems using WPA-TKIP.  Also, what wireless chipset do you
have?

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-01-09 Thread Romel
Guys I am having the same Problem. My wirelss connection encrypted by WPA2  and 
since i had a fresh install of  Ubuntu-9.10  my wireless connection is dropping 
almost every 10 minutes and to get  rid of that i  have to restart the computer.
its so pain in the ass. i am frustrated  so much...i thought version 9.10 will 
be flawlessseems LINUX will have trouble unless the worlds end

hope Ubuntu fix this issue fast

please let me know if  any one had fixed their issues

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-01-08 Thread humbhenri
After many tests with different networks and using ndiswrapper I see
that my problem is not about ralink drivers cause the problem occurs
using ndiswrapper too. With another router/network (from my neighbor)
this problem don't happens. My guess is the router, will change it and
see if the problem is gone.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-01-06 Thread humbhenri
Another observation: with an unprotected network my connection doesn't
drop and behave much better, the problem only occurs when using wpa it
seems.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-01-06 Thread Adam Niedling
Humbhenri: this is what this bug is about, read the description. If you
get disconnected while using something other than WPA (TKIP) then it's
another bug.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-01-06 Thread IanO
I have the same problem on a Dell Vostro 1510 with an Intel 4965AGN
wireless interface. Using 9.10 x64 and WPA (TKIP).

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-01-05 Thread Jim Smith
I also have this problem.  I have a brand new (made Sept. 2009) Acer
Aspire One and I am running the 9.10 Notebook Remix.

My wireless interface is:  AR928X Wireless network Adapter (PCI-Express)
Vendor:  Atheros Communications Inc.

My wireless connection comes up when I boot the system, but then it
drops out after 5 minutes or so.  This is really a pain!

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-01-04 Thread Ichimonji10
 am also experiencing this problem, as described in post seven. I
recently upgraded to 9.10 x64 from 9.04 x64. I had no problems with
wireless in 9.04. My laptop is an Acer Aspire 3810TZ. The wireless
chipset in it is an Atheros AR928X. Considering that I'm using wireless
n in my household, my signals should not be dropping.

I've attached some information about my computer; hopefully this will
help. Next time my connection drops, I'll see if I can find some
information from the logs and post it here.

** Attachment added: computer wireless info.txt
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37415408/computer%20wireless%20info.txt

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2010-01-04 Thread humbhenri
Same problem here, using a ralink chip with the rt73usb module loaded.
wicd keeps reconnecting automatically at every 2~5 seconds so I can surf
the web, but any direct download is impossible.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2009-12-31 Thread Pau Iranzo
Same problem here. The strange thing is that this happens to me with my
own router, but when I connect to other routers the problem disappears.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2009-12-30 Thread starlord
I have been experiencing this recently on an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10.
Either way it is exactly as described in number 7.  Let me know if you
need more info.  I'm not going to add more since it is unlikely to
assist in resolution unless someone has a specific idea.  I am running a
fairly standard install, with a self-configured LAMP server.  It works
fine then drops and can't reconnect.  Weird. I will try to make more
observations.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2009-12-20 Thread Keith Patton
Also having same issue with Kubuntu 9.10 (64bit). Wireless works
perfectly fine but will not connect when router set to WPA (TKIP). I
need to have it set to this for security reasons and to allow other
older machines to connect.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2009-12-19 Thread technoboi
This might be the same problem that I am getting. I am using Karmic Netbook 
Remix on an Eee PC901.
It does connect to the wifi but it slowly degrades and thus downloads get 
painfully slow. Starts on full bars, then it might jump to 2 bars, then back to 
full...but eventually it drops to nothing and then disconnects. I then can't 
reconnect unless I reboot. I can however run the 'radar scan' application, 
which displays local networks that can be received, and it picks up my network 
and other networks in my area. I can, in the same position in my house, always 
get a good signal on my Nokia N95 (wifi).
So, I think that this is a software problem especially as, previously, I used a 
modified set up of Ubuntu 8.04 on this computer and the wireless worked just 
fine.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2009-12-17 Thread usererror
Using both WPA2 TKIP+AES i am having wireless drops now with both my
laptops, but they appear not as frequent.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2009-12-16 Thread usererror
I am also using the Intel 3945 Wireless Card.  Connection drops every
minute when using WPA - Personal TKIP.  If I leave a constant ping on,
it will stop pinging my router when the connection drops  Sometimes
the Network Manager will flash the tool tip saying disconnected, then
reconnect.  But other days it does not and the pinging just stops.

Other laptop I am using has a Broadcom card that does not drop, also
running Ubuntu 9.10.

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[Bug 481432] Re: [Karmic] wireless connection keeps dropping - WPA TKIP

2009-12-16 Thread usererror
Changing my security to WPA2-AES did not help.  Trying WPA2 TKIP+AES

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