[Bug 493169] Re: windows line 1058, no one ever mentioned the Local Folders, so how is the user suposed to know what or where it is?

2010-01-09 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package ubuntu-docs - 10.04.1

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ubuntu-docs (10.04.1) lucid; urgency=low

  * First upload for lucid
  * General:
- Refresh pot files
- Changed 'Text Editor' to 'gedit Text Editor' LP: #442417 (Connor Imes)
  * Advanced-topics:
- Added link in advanced-topics to a description about Users and Groups in
  Debian systems. LP: #145055 (Connor Imes)
  * Hardware:
- Added mention of ext4 to hardware.xml and changed the mentioning of the
  default filesystem in Ubuntu from ext3 to ext4 LP #449667 (Connor Imes)
- Removed subsection in hardware about quirk-checker script - link was
  broken, script is outdated LP: #461158 (Connor Imes)
  * Keeping-safe:
- Updating instructions for automatic login for new GDM LP: #442676
 (Dean Sas)
- String adjustment (period inside of a quote tag), Scott Shields,
  LP: #496885
  * Internet:
- Changes remaining mention of flashplugin-nonfree to flashplugin-installer
  in web-apps.xml LP: #444546 (Connor Imes)
- Change some guimenu tags to guimenuitem tags in web-apps.xml to show
  arrows in HTML documentation instead of + signs LP: #453512 (Connor Imes)
- Removed reference to network-manager radio buttons, as radio buttons
  aren't used in this version of NM for wired networks (Jim Campbell)
- Aligned similar strings in 'internet' section to benefit translators;
  some small adjustments. LP: #460360 (Connor Imes)
  * Musicvideophotos:
- Fixed apturl for mtp-tools package in music.xml LP #452262 (Connor Imes)
- Improve ipod section, patch by Michael Fitzhugh. LP: #370085
  * Printing:
- Updated printer setup directions in printing section LP: #435510
  (Connor Imes)
- Fix scanning typo. Patch by Shane Fagan LP: #447250
  * Programming:
- Removed entire programming section LP: #414035 (Connor Imes)
  * Serverguide:
- Adjusted wording in serverguide package-management file to more
  clearly describe apticron.  LP: #473280 (Connor Imes)
- Updated LDAP section for changes to the Jaunty package.
  Fixes LP: #475492, LP: #459403, LP: #463684 (Adam Sommer)
- In OpenSSH section, .ssh/authorized_keys permissions should be
  600, not 644 LP: #491159 (Connor Imes)
- Replaced description of ebox Log Observer in serverguide with a real
  description of the event's purpose LP: #405926 (Connor Imes)
- Fixed IP example in serverguide's postfix configuration section
  LP: #495202 (Connor Imes)
- Include 'auto eth1' in interfaces file for static IP configuration
  LP: #441802 (Connor Imes)
- Fix for disabling Control-Alt-Delete in serverguide. Scott Shields,
  LP: #496465
- Typo fix, Scott Shields, LP: #497867
- PostgreSQL setup fix for config file pg_hba.conf, Scott Shields,
  LP: #492286
- Misc fixes in windows-networking section. Vikram Dhillon, LP: #462607
- Changes to RAID installation section LP: #428036, LP: #462719
  (Connor Imes)
- Fixes and adjustments to web-servers LP: #462621 (Connor Imes)
  * Switching:
- Replaced Pidgin with Empathy in applications-equivalents
  LP: #490980 (Connor Imes)
- Fixed misspelling of Rhythmbox (Connor Imes)
- Added note about FAT32 file size limit to Windows. Also removed comment
  of NTFS needing extra work since Ubuntu now supports it out of the box
  LP: #442111 (Connor Imes)
- Replaced explicit em-dashes with normal en-dashes LP: #493331
  (Connor Imes)
  * Windows:
- Menu entry correction, LP: #483149 (Jonathan Jesse)
- Two very small fixes in Windows migratingdata section
  LP: #493358, LP: #493843 (Connor Imes)
- Various updates to the Windows section on migrating data. LP: #492949,
  LP: #492951, LP: #492955, LP: #493166, LP: #493169 (Connor Imes)
- Further updates to the Windows section on preparing to switch and
  migrating data - specifically for transferring email
  LP: #493169 (Connor Imes)
- Add support for for exporting bookmarks in IE7 and IE8 LP: #442097
  (Shane Fagan)
- Added necessary step to exporting Outlook data in windows section
  LP: #493866 (Connor Imes)
- Ubuntu does have some fax support - adding link in glossary sections
  LP: #493346 (Connor Imes)
 -- Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com   Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:26:29 +

** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 493169] Re: windows line 1058, no one ever mentioned the Local Folders, so how is the user suposed to know what or where it is?

2009-12-06 Thread Connor Imes
** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Connor Imes (rocket2dmn)

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[Bug 493169] Re: windows line 1058, no one ever mentioned the Local Folders, so how is the user suposed to know what or where it is?

2009-12-06 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
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[Bug 493169] Re: windows line 1058, no one ever mentioned the Local Folders, so how is the user suposed to know what or where it is?

2009-12-06 Thread Connor Imes
I can see how that might be confusing, esp. if users don't store their
emails in the Local Folders area.  I updated this text to use Local
Folders as an example, and also added imap.gmail.com as an example
since gmail is very popular.  Fix committed to Lucid development branch.

** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

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[Bug 493169] Re: windows line 1058, no one ever mentioned the Local Folders, so how is the user suposed to know what or where it is?

2009-12-06 Thread AJenbo
If they use imap then this quide does not apply to them. T-bird, by
default, only stores mail from pop mail accouts in mbox format. And with
imap the user would automaticaly get there mails once the configure the
account.

Instead the guide should point out that the Local Folders folder is
located inside the Mail or ImapMail folder that they copyed during
the preparation steps.

Acttually i think the quide should point out that it is not nesesery to
make backups of your emails if you use imap, especialy as they will just
be frustrated once they get to the restoring par, because Thunderbird
didnt store the mbox files in the ImapMail folder by default, it does
however store a bunch of MSF files with excatly the same name (different
extension) that the user will likly think are the mbox files (mbox files
dosn't have an extension), Evolution will just gray out all file types
and not let the user continue with out any way for the user to know what
hi is doing wrong, and probably thinking that he just lost all his
emails.

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Heres a suggestion for the new text.

Open the folder filenameLocal Folders/filename, witch is found in
side the filenameMail/filename folder, look for files with names
such as filenameInbox/filename, filenameUnsent
Messages/filename, filenameSent/filename. Select a file and press
guibuttonOpen/guibutton. If you have many email messages, you may
have to wait a while for the file to be checked before you can continue.



Changes should then also be made to line 756 to no longer mention the
ImapMail folder.

Around line 712 a note should be added stating that if the user is using
imap, he/she does not need to make a back up of the messages, as they
are already backed up on the server.

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[Bug 493169] Re: windows line 1058, no one ever mentioned the Local Folders, so how is the user suposed to know what or where it is?

2009-12-06 Thread Connor Imes
Thanks for your feedback, your points are valid.  When I tested, I was
able to transfer email from an IMAP account using this method, though it
is not necessary.  Here is a revised suggestion, with a few adjustments
and spelling fixes:

listitemparaOpen the folder filenameLocal Folders/filename,
which is found inside the filenameMail/filename folder, and look for
files with names such as filenameInbox/filename, filenameUnsent
Messages/filename, and filenameSent/filename. If you did not store
your email in the filenameLocal Folders/filename area, choose the
appropriate folder in filenameMail/filename. Select a file and press
guibuttonOpen/guibutton. If you have many email messages, you may
have to wait a while for the file to be checked before you can
continue./para/listitem

Also, here is a suggestion for a note about IMAP and SMTP:

noteparaYou do not need to export mail messages if you use IMAP for
retrieving email from the your mail server - the email is still stored
on the server. You only need to export mail messages if you use SMTP to
retrieve email from your mail server. This is because by default the
email will not be persisted on the server after it has been downloaded
to your computer when using SMTP./para/note

Finally, the line numbers you are listing do not match what I see in the
source, where are you getting them from?

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[Bug 493169] Re: windows line 1058, no one ever mentioned the Local Folders, so how is the user suposed to know what or where it is?

2009-12-06 Thread AJenbo
Much better... but SMTP is for sending mail, POP3 is the one you want to
mention ;)

The line numbers are from the Karmic PO file that i got from launchpad.

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[Bug 493169] Re: windows line 1058, no one ever mentioned the Local Folders, so how is the user suposed to know what or where it is?

2009-12-06 Thread Connor Imes
Oops! Thanks so much, I'll fix that locally, I haven't committed any
other changes since I changed the status earlier.  I think this is a
sign that I need to step away from the computer for a bit.

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[Bug 493169] Re: windows line 1058, no one ever mentioned the Local Folders, so how is the user suposed to know what or where it is?

2009-12-06 Thread Connor Imes
Here is a proposed patch to my original changes.  Please have a look and
let me know if you approve.  It includes changing the import directions,
adding a note about not needing to transfer IMAP, and removing the
mention of the ImapMail folder.  Thanks.

By the way, if you are interested in proposing patches yourself, I can
help you get that setup.  In that case, you can provide a patch and we
will review it, then apply it assuming it looks good, or offer advice to
further improve it.

** Attachment added: windows-take2-patch.diff
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36513094/windows-take2-patch.diff

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[Bug 493169] Re: windows line 1058, no one ever mentioned the Local Folders, so how is the user suposed to know what or where it is?

2009-12-06 Thread AJenbo
Looks good.

I might be interested in being able to submit patches, but atm. I spend
most of my spare time translating.

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[Bug 493169] Re: windows line 1058, no one ever mentioned the Local Folders, so how is the user suposed to know what or where it is?

2009-12-06 Thread Connor Imes
Ok, I applied that proposed patch, any further work on this material
should be in a new bug report.  If you do want to get involved with
submitting patches, have a look here -
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation

Cheers.

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