[Bug 493762] Re: Hide shortcut keys in menus

2010-02-08 Thread Dylan McCall
Following upstream's assessment of this (in gnome bug 604315), I am
adding human-gtk-theme to the bug report. It is possible to style the
GtkAccelLabel to achieve the desired effect. Here is Moblin doing it:
http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=151627

May be worth discussing on the ubuntu-art mailing list. May be worth
implementing the adjustment in a non-default theme (in the community-
themes package) in order to test the waters and get the ball rolling :)

** Also affects: human-gtk-theme
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 493762] Re: Hide shortcut keys in menus

2010-01-13 Thread Pedro Villavicencio
** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Triaged

** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)

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[Bug 493762] Re: Hide shortcut keys in menus

2010-01-12 Thread Dylan McCall
** Description changed:

  This is a continuation of a discussion from:
  https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/403691
  
  Why not hide the Control+Commands on drop down menus in the same way?
  That would reduce a hell of a lot of visual noise for something that -
  let's be honest here - is rarely used.
  
  Example:
  
  Before (boo, noisy!):
  http://imgur.com/wpAR4l.png
  
  After (a breath of fresh air!):
  http://imgur.com/cOy1nl.jpg
  
  (Sorry about the icons - screenshot was taken on 8.04)
  
- If 403691, it would be nice if they could coincide so that pressing alt
- would uncover all the shortcuts.
+ If bug #403691, it would be nice if they could coincide so that pressing
+ alt would uncover all the shortcuts.
  
  The one issue to deal with would be the width - would it get wider as
  the shortcut appeared, or would it be that width normally, with the
  accelerator simply becoming visible when the key is pressed. I think I'd
  prefer the later, but would be interested in what others have to say.

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[Bug 493762] Re: Hide shortcut keys in menus

2010-01-12 Thread Rich Jones
That's at least a step in the right direction!

>From upstream:
http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=149582

Much nicer, themeable, customizable (haters like me would be able to
make them invisible with theming :) )

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[Bug 493762] Re: Hide shortcut keys in menus

2010-01-12 Thread Dylan McCall
Fun trivia: Maemo (used on Nokia N810, N900, etc) hides shortcut text when the 
keyboard is closed, shows it when the keyboard is open.
Windows does similar stuff with the mnemonics (which are indicated by 
underlines): they are only shown when Alt is being pressed, then some newer 
applications produce more colourful and obvious overlays (indicating all the 
shortcuts) to make it easier to interact that way.


I don't think we can do all that here, but I have an alternative suggestion: 
use Pango markup to italicize, grey out or shrink that shortcut text. Gets it 
out of the way, emphasizes that the shortcuts are _alternatives_, but doesn't 
harm any existing functionality.

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[Bug 493762] Re: Hide shortcut keys in menus

2010-01-12 Thread Vish
The upstream bug report is for this issue , and the suggestion was to
make the shortcuts lighter.

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[Bug 493762] Re: Hide shortcut keys in menus

2010-01-12 Thread Vish
One issue in Rich Jones' mockup is that gtk currently does not work that way. 
If the shortcuts are not displayed the menu will become thinner/narrower. Check 
out the session menu. 

The fix is in no way a simple/easy one.

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Status: New => Invalid

** Also affects: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #604315
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=604315

** Also affects: gtk via
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=604315
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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