[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2010-06-19 Thread Ludwig Weinzierl
I don't use nautilus because of this bug. Should be high priority in my
opinion.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2010-06-19 Thread Ludwig Weinzierl
I don't use nautilus because of this bug. Should be high priority in my
opinion and we can't count on upstream in this case.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2010-06-13 Thread Vish
** Tags added: nautilus

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-12-20 Thread Patrick Roberts
Pedro Villavicencio  wrote on 2009-12-14:
If you want this bug to be fixed, then talk with the upstream maintainers, 
best way is to comment on the upstream report and raise that on their mailing 
list.

You've got to be kidding. Those people at Gnome just don't want this bug
to be fixed. It doesn't matter if you talk to them or if you create
patches. Some patches are already SIX YEARS old, but Gnome just doesn't
cooperate. I've seen people got banned, because they were asking to
finally fix this bug. Really, it doesn't care what you do. They just
don't want to have this bug fixed.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-12-14 Thread Pedro Villavicencio
If you want this bug to be fixed, then talk with the upstream
maintainers, best way is to comment on the upstream report and raise
that on their mailing list. Discussing unrelated things only creates
more noise into the bug tracking system which makes the work of
developers and triagers even harder. Thanks.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-11-20 Thread Patrick Roberts
Sebastien Bacher  wrote on 2009-10-26:
The reasoning you use doesn't stand, you can't dictate people to work on 
nautilus, the one working on compiz or ubuntuone would probably not fix this 
bug either if they were not doing that, they do things they are motivated doing 
or would do nothing

And that's the problem of open source. There's no one telling dictating
developers to fix bugs. What you're saying is completely right: they do
things they are motivated doing or would do nothing and that's the
problem: Developers want to develop new features as that's way more fun
than the boring work of fixing bugs. That's why there are so many bugs
in our operating system that exist for more than five years, but still
aren't fixed. The developers who wrote those applications just don't
want to fix those existing bugs, because it's boring. Instead they just
develop some new features, because it's fun.

But who's going the fix those bugs? The developers don't want to fix
them. It's right, developers of Compiz of Ubuntu One are not going those
bugs, as they are working on their own applications. What's left? Those
people like me, who are not a programmer and aren't able to fix those
bugs. But if you ask the developers to fix the bugs in their
application, they just say: If it bothers you, fix it yourself. I'm
not a programmer. How am I going to fix those bugs? Besides that, why
SHOULD I fix the bug myself? It their application. They released an
application with annoying bugs, so it's their task to fix those bugs.

But the developer isn't paid and he does what he likes to do, which is
developing new features. That's the problem: there's no one who tells
those developers: Go fix those bugs. That's problem of software
developed by people who aren't paid.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-11-20 Thread lenooh
there were and are patches for this bug, but the problem is that the
maintainer is holding them back for whatever philosophical reasons...
any solution would be better than no solution.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-10-29 Thread wribeiro
Please set importance at least to medium

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-10-26 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Those comments are not constructives and you are not commenting at the
right place anyway, ubuntu distribute those software and is not writing
those

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-10-26 Thread Christian A. Reiter
I can understand that, yes.
But this is just an expression how _important_ it is to fix this bug.
It's not funny for users to _want_ to help, but being not able to program, many 
have to wait, and see things evolving like UbuntuOne (when there's Dropbox 
already) and another compiz effect, when some of the very basics are not fixed.
This is frustrating for the community as well and therefore not less important.
But you're right, Ubuntu is only partly the right place to speak here.
As mentioned above,
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94618
is the main discussion.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-10-26 Thread Sebastien Bacher
The reasoning you use doesn't stand, you can't dictate people to work on
nautilus, the one working on compiz or ubuntuone would probably not fix
this bug either if they were not doing that, they do things they are
motivated doing or would do nothing

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-10-26 Thread Christian A. Reiter
You're right, sorry. And that's the wrong place too for discussions like
that...

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-10-25 Thread Patrick Roberts
wribeiro wrote on 2009-10-20:

More than 3 years since this bug was first reported, and the only thing to do 
is make background clickable when Nautilus is in listview mode, but until now 
nothing was done.
Maybe Nautilus team should review the importance of this bug and change its 
priority because a solution is really necessary for users who manage large 
folders and depends of listview mode to manage lots fo files.
Home users, like most part of Gnome users, maybe don't feel affected by this 
problem, but enterprise users are!
How can Gnome substitute Windows in enterprise environment if a single 
correction like that take such a long time to be implemented?

Thank you!

I couldn't agree more. The same goes for the non-functional copy/paste
in Ubuntu (Linux in general). Developers just don't care. They don't
want to fix bugs, they only want to develop new features. Stop
developing Gnome Shell, another Login Screen and such new features.
First fix all of those existing bugs!

It's the problem I see with all kind of open source software. Developing
new features is fun, but fixing bugs isn't. So, the developers only want
to develop new features, but they really don't care about existing bugs.
First complete your existing project, before moving on.

Then there are those people who keep on saying Fix it yourself if it
bothers you. and The code is opensource and anybody could give it a
try. Those people think everyone in the world knows how to write
programs and how to fix bugs. I really want to fix those bugs. If I was
able to fix bugs, this bug was already fixed, but I'm not a programmer.
I know a little PHP and that's it. All other languages are way too
complicated for me. I've tried C, C++ and Phython, but I'm not able to
produce something usefull. The only thing I can do in C, C++ or Phython
is a CLI application which asks for two numbers and then says Number 1
+ Number 2 = Answer. I just don't have enough skills to do more
advanced programming.

Who's going to fix all of those bugs if the developers don't want to fix
them and those who do want to fix them have not enough skills to fix
them?

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-10-23 Thread wribeiro
Should'nt this bug be assigned to GTK bugs?

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-10-20 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Note that the issue could be that the gtk widget used does select the
line when clicking on the background and need a new widget

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-10-20 Thread Sebastien Bacher
The change might not be trivial but the code is opensource and anybody
could give it a try

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-10-20 Thread Christian A. Reiter
 importance Low?
I think this is one of the most hated bugs in Nautilus/GNOME, people just 
resignated to report it further...

This SHOULD definitely be more important.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-10-20 Thread wribeiro
More than 3 years since this bug was first reported, and the only thing to do 
is make background clickable when Nautilus is in listview mode, but until now 
nothing was done.
Maybe Nautilus team should review the importance of this bug and change its 
priority because a solution is really necessary for users who manage large 
folders and depends of listview mode to manage lots fo files.
Home users, like most part of Gnome users, maybe don't feel affected by this 
problem, but enterprise users are!
How can Gnome substitute Windows in enterprise environment if a single 
correction like that take such a long time to be implemented?

Thank you!

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-10-19 Thread wribeiro
I'm very sorry to say that this bug is still present in:

- Nautilus 2.26.2, Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope
- Nautilus 2.28.0, Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala - Beta Release

Please, solve this problem as soon as possible. Listview mode in
Nautilus is almost unusable because of this limitation.

Thank you!

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-09-27 Thread Joslyn
** Description changed:

  What I did:
  
  - Nautilus is configured to show listview, and the directory-tree on the left 
( just checked, symbolview has the same issue )
- - right-click on a file/folder and clicking on copy 
+ - right-click on a file/folder and clicking on copy
  - change to the folder where the file/foldershould be copied to
  - rightclick anywhere in the listview of the contents of that folder
  
  What happened:
  
  - When rightclicking on a folder, there is the option to insert into that 
folder ( which is nice ) and cut and copy - no paste
- - When rightclicking on a file the only options are cut and copy - no paste 
+ - When rightclicking on a file the only options are cut and copy - no paste
  - When actually rightclicking on the actual folder from the tree-view, paste 
into that folder exists, but is inactive (!!!) - so no workaround available
  
  What I expected:
  
  a past option that pasts the files/folders I've copied before into the 
folder at whichs contents I'm looking.
  and a paste into that folder option in the treeview
  
  What I found out :
  
  when there are very few files/folders in a folder, and the list is
  shorter than the nautilus window could show - the whitespace below the
  list has this option. This should simply be added to the files and
  folders.
  
  P.S: please do not remove paste into that folder - its nice actually,
  but not all I expected...

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-07-28 Thread Christian A. Reiter
don't exactly know what you mean with space in dest folder is full -
disk space? no, please explain.

in Dolphin/Konqueror you can right-click on the whitespace right to the file 
names in detail view or anywhere in between the files in the symbols view, and 
choose Paste, when you right-click on a folder, you can choose paste into 
folder.
IMO this is the way nautilus should do it as well.

Satish, does this answer your question?

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-07-28 Thread Patrick Roberts
don't exactly know what you mean with space in dest folder is full -
disk space? no, please explain.

Of course he isn't talking about disk space. Is it so difficult to understand? 
What he means:
In List View each row contains one file. Let's say, there's enough room in the 
window to fit 40 rows in it (so 40 files can fit in this window).

Now you copy a file and you try to paste it in the destination foler. If
the destination folder contains less than 40 files, there are some empty
rows left, so you can use this empty space to paste the file. If the
destination folder contains 40 files or more than 40 files, there's no
more space left to do a secundairy click to be able to paste the file,
so the destination folder is full (not in terms of available bytes,
but number of empty rows a.k.a. whitespace).

in Dolphin/Konqueror you can right-click on the whitespace right to the file 
names in detail view or anywhere in between the files in the symbols view, and 
choose Paste, when you right-click on a folder, you can choose paste into 
folder.
IMO this is the way nautilus should do it as well

I also did a test and you're completely right. This is the way Nautilus
should work. This is the way all file managers (except Nautilus) work.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-07-17 Thread Satish
Is this bug handled in Konqueror??Can one paste files into folder by
right-clicking in dest folder even if the space in dest folder is full??

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-29 Thread Patrick Roberts
I agree with Christian A. Reiter. Having Paste and Create new folder
always in the context menu is a bad workaround for the reasons Christian
A. Reiter gave. A secundairy click should give a different context menu
as when clicking some space next to, above or beneath the filename. Just
like when doing a secundairy click on a hyperlink on a website. You only
get the conext menu to open links in a new tab when clicking the
hyperlink. Doing a secundairy click only 1mm next to, above or beneath
the hyperlink gives you a completely other context menu. The same goes
for Icon View and Compact View in Nautilus. A secundairy click on a
filename gives you a completely other context menu compared to the
context menu you get when doing a secundairy click next to, above or
beneath a filename. The same goes for all views of the Explorer in
Windows.

Attachment: Current situation.

** Attachment added: Nautilus1.png
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28505394/Nautilus1.png

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-29 Thread Patrick Roberts
Attachment: How it should be.

A secundairy click on the filename or the icon should give the same
context menu as in the current behavior. Clicking on a filename or the
icon only selects the brown in the screenshot. A secundairy click
anywhere else should give the same context menu as when clicking in
white space. Left clicking anywhere else shouldn't select any files.

** Attachment added: Nautilus2.png
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28505528/Nautilus2.png

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-29 Thread Christian A. Reiter
I'd say mark the whole line from top to bottom, so it does look better
when more than one items are selected

** Attachment added: better version?
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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-29 Thread Patrick Roberts
Compact View has some white space between filenames, so I also added
some white space in my screenshot. Your version indeed looks better,
although it isn't possible to get the context menu when clicking between
two filenames. Is it really needed to be able to click between
filenames? I don't think so. Everything is better than what we have at
this moment.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-29 Thread Christian A. Reiter
It's not necesary to click on the few pixels between two items - there's 
plenty of space on the right side of the file name. MS Explorer does this, 
Konqueror/Dolphin does this, and as you said, nautilus in it's other view does 
this as well.
And AFAIK this is a GTK+ problem, this whitespace is not implemented yet.

I would say, reimplement GNOME in Qt now that it's LGPL ;-)

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-28 Thread Christian A. Reiter
This would be just another bad workaround.
Fix it once and for all times by having free space clickable - context menu, 
and as drop target.
paste in context menu of files is completely against all usability concerns. 
I wether want to paste a file into another nor create a folder inside a file, 
so I don't agree with you, sorry.

This has been discussed many times before.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-27 Thread Jossele
Yes! Please fix it in anintuitive way.
My mom was totally confused when the paste action did no show up in the 
context menu as soon as the nautilus window was full. She thought the folder 
was full because she couldnt paste anymore.
This is totally counter-intuitive.
It would be a big usability improvement.

My proposal: show paste and create new folder etc even if you click
on a file in the view.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-26 Thread Nexos
Yeah. I totally agree.
Fixing such annoying bugs should be priority #1 above making new feature.

It's just an annoyance for people coming from Windows... last time I was
trying to convert someone from windows, and that made a bad impression
on him... it was just an annoyance

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-25 Thread wgaa
Full ACK. Patrick's suggestion sounds good to me. Selecting multiple
files in list view without a keyboard is not possible at the moment. I
often miss that function. Compact view behavior would be what I need.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-23 Thread prani_bobby
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-23 Thread roffik
I think adding some empty space (lets say 15-20px) to the left of the
list view would solve this and many more usability issues with list
view.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-23 Thread Patrick Roberts
I think List View should work the same as Compact View. Isn't it
possible to replace some code of List View with the code of Compact
View? In Compact View everything works as it should be. Only the
filename is highlighted when selecting files, you can use rubberband
selection and a secundairy click on a filename gives another menu than a
secundairy click in white space. You can even do a secundairy click in
the white space between two files.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-22 Thread Diego Moya
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-14 Thread lenooh
I think it should. It fits the description perfectly. But it would
probably be marked as a duplicate and not accepted? Should it be moved
from here to one hundred paper cuts?

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-13 Thread Patrick Roberts
Shouldn't this be added to One Hundred Paper Cuts?

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-09 Thread Sebastien Bacher
could people stop adding random comments and wrong statement on this
bug? Upstream is friendly and responsive

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-08 Thread Patrick Roberts
True, Christian. Some bugs are still present in Ubuntu, even after many
years have passed. Nautilus' List View has always had these kind of
bugs. These bugs were already reported in 2001, but instead of fixing
bugs they keep on adding new features. Can't they spend their time
fixing those way too old bugs instead of adding new features?

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-08 Thread lenooh
I agree with Christian and Patrick.

Please do something to fix the problem. This is a basic feature, much
needed, with numerous patches already contributed.

It seems to me that the maintainer of nautilus is just like the
maintainer of glibc, Ulrich Drepper, not willing to accept any patches.
Maybe he should be replaced?

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-07 Thread Patrick Roberts
I couldn't agree more, lenooh.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-06-07 Thread Christian A. Reiter
BTW, thsis bug is rated low despite all the rumble about it.
Could we please set it at LEAST to medium?

IMHO this is high, because it's a major usability problem of a modern file 
browser. I think in Windows 3.1 this was already possible.
My 20 cents to fix THIS bug instead of urging Plymouth or another compiz effect.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2009-05-06 Thread lenooh
in ubuntu 9.04 list view is still unusable because of this bug.
almost 7 years have passed since the bug was first reported. way to go gnome...

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2008-12-26 Thread Patrick Roberts
Could this bug be fixed, please?

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2007-12-14 Thread Pedro Villavicencio
The patch needs to be reviewer before it can be committed or used by
Ubuntu.

** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Triaged

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2007-12-14 Thread André Klitzing
I backported the hardy-version to gutsy (with libexempi) and added this
patch of gnome-bug #94618.

Maybe you want to try that DEBs:
https://launchpad.net/~misery/+archive?field.name_filter=nautilusfield.status_filter=published
https://launchpad.net/~misery/+archive?field.name_filter=exempifield.status_filter=published

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2007-12-10 Thread lenooh
looks like someone implemented the same idea i sugested:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94618
(look comment #51)

will this patch be included in the next ubuntu version? or even sooner?

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2007-12-09 Thread yacahuma
This bug still open on ubuntu 7.10.   I agree  with the proposed
solution of not selecting a file on right click.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2007-05-11 Thread lenooh
I have read the comments at
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94618 and it's really a shame
that they still haven't fixed that bug in all those years! (the bug was
first reported in 2002)

I really don't know why are they complicating it so much.
Like I said, the easiest solution in my opinion would be if right-mouse 
clicking would not select files. Left-mouse click selects file, right-mouse 
click brings up the context menu. If no file was selected before 
right-clicking, then the context menu is directory related, otherwise it is 
file related.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2007-05-01 Thread lenooh
The problem is that the menu that shows up when right clicking is that
it's related to the selected file and not the directory. So not only
paste is missing, but all other options too - create new directory,
zoom, etc...

To fix this, right clicking should not select files.

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2006-07-17 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
   Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2006-07-15 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: nautilus (upstream)
   Status: Unknown = Confirmed

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[Bug 51043] Re: rightclick - paste missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders

2006-07-13 Thread Christoph Wolk
Good idea. I think this is upstream
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94618

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