[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
This analysis is correct, tilda will start without real transparency if this is not supported by the window manager. Unfortunately there is not much that can be done in tilda. This is a problem of the startup script or what ever mechanism is responsible to start tilda. If tilda is started before compositing is active, then it just does not work. I am closing this bug as Invalid. ** Changed in: tilda (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 Title: Tilda without true tansparency after system start To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tilda/+bug/518447/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
I'm almost sure this has to do with Tilda attempting to start before the compositing engine is ready. The fix here would be to have the ability to control startup application priority. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 Title: Tilda without true tansparency after system start -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
Same problem. This work around works for me: sh -c sleep 2; exec tilda -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
Also affect by this bug, Lucid fresh install on SSD disk. Possible work around is to use this command instead when starting Tilda in the start-up programs: sh -c sleep 2; exec tilda -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
It's not an Ubuntu-specific bug, I have the same in Debian with XFCE and its compositing. The reason might be that Tilda starts before the compositing has started and chooses non-transparent mode. http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=90305 -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
Obviously, my statement was too fast and therefore incorrect. Both my two 64 bit machines start tilda w/o real transparancy which makes sense after Alexandre's explanation. My third box at home might be slow enough to bring up compiz first, because I didn't notice the flaw here. Maybe this kinda race condition can have different winners depending on rainfall or mean temperature of the last 11 days or so :] ... only joking, sorry! -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
Alexandre's script works for me. Obviously not ideal, but it's a decent workaround in the meantime. -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
On my work system (64 bit Lucid) the problem persists. Autostarted tilda comes up without transparency. Will try your workaround, Alexandre! -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
That last suggestions sounds very reasonable to me! But, luckily my laptop now works with tilda and transparency (64 bit Lucid) without workarounds. Have to test it with my other box, though. Will report back. -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
Same for me, only occurs in Lucid. I'm not sure but tilda might load before compiz, and is not able to get real transparency because of this. A simple workaround for me was to load this script at boot time instead: #! /bin/bash sleep 5 tilda exit -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
Encountering exactly this issue immediately after upgrading from Karmic to Lucid. -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
Confirm. Clean install of Lucid. Did not have problem with Karmic. -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
It's definitely doing this for me too in Lucid. No transparency if it autostarts at boot, but if i quit it and start it again manually, it's fine. I don't get it. What's different about the command ':~$ tilda' being run by the startup applications manager from me running it from the terminal or clicking it in the applications menu? As far as I can tell, that's the only difference between the two instances. -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
** Changed in: tilda (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
I also get this on Lucid, but not on Karmic. -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
I can confirm this on Lucid Lynx with Tilda 0.09.6-2. Restarting Tilda fixes this a while, but not for long. -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
** Attachment added: tilda without true transparency after system startup http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38861820/tilda_after_startup.png ** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38861821/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: ProcMaps.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38861822/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: ProcStatus.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38861823/ProcStatus.txt ** Attachment added: XsessionErrors.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38861824/XsessionErrors.txt -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 518447] Re: Tilda without true tansparency after system start
** Attachment added: tilda with true transparency after being shut down and restarted http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38861855/tilda_after_restart.png -- Tilda without true tansparency after system start https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518447 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
