[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
As this is a request to change the default settings I've changed the importance to Wishlist. ** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu) Importance: Low = Wishlist -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
A workaroud??? You're kidding I hope? The woarkaround breaks visual appearance because of symetry problems. You may really think twice for such a huge habits change: LTS versions targets enterprises and aims to be a Red Hat or Suse alternative... but I really don't immagine any sysadmin install a distribution configured like this: Users screaming, loss of productivity... This is really a pity to make this kind of change to: -Make a bad copy of Apple layout, that count for 5% PC market share... whose users are under Steve gourou influence and are not really subject to change for any Linux flavour! -Sink the Ubuntu boat in 6 months... So please make this appear on top again... and go reading ubuntu forums to hear the scream about this stupidity! ** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Incomplete -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
We should have a way to revert to the old button layout in a GUI manner, not with a command-line workaround, as this affects the final user. Be able to put the button back to the right side (where they have always been) with a command line is just a usability joke. -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
Make a GUI to put the buttons on the left-side if you want, but please leave the buttons on the right side by default ! As the other Yann (!) says, this is a crazy change for a LTS !!! -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
Setting back to triaged as no more info is required for a developer to be able to work on this. Please don't change the status of this bug. Please see top post for a workaround, sorry for missing the menu part of the string in my earlier post. ** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Triaged -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
left side or right side is not the main problem. Even If i agreed that copying the mac OS style is not the best idea. Some apps have the icon on right, so putting the gtk theme to the left will only perturb people. for me this new themes are cool (in design) but are uggly in some way if you try to force the buttons in this order : minimise, maximise, close = you will have an UGLY theme and on ALL window who only have 2 or 3 buttons, you'll have something ugly too?field.comment=left side or right side is not the main problem for for me this theme is cool (in design) but it's uggly in some way if you try to force the buttons in this order : minimise, maximise, close = you will have an UGLY theme and on ALL window who only have 2 or 3 buttons, you'll have something ugly too ok having a new theme is cool, but changing the side an the order of the buttons is kind of disturbing copy Mac design is a bad idea too. there are about 5% Mac user, and about 90% Windows user Convincing 10% windows users to switch on ubuntu, will bring a LOT more people than bringing 100% of mac user Ok there are people who want to change from windows to mac, but its not for the button position ^^ so stop copy useless stuff ^^ ** Attachment added: one button uggly http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40479273/ugly1.png -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
** Attachment added: normal order give ugly theme http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40479296/ugly2.png -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Confirmed -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
OK, setting back to confirmed... maybe this is the more appropriate as triaged is clearly inappropriate: Buttons artwork is so more symetric, so changing gconf makes this look very bad. So the solution may be to change buttons to make them symetric again for users being able to change default behaviour withous artifact... or making a second theme that is coherent, that could be chosen at install. Maybe Canonical could uses this to make stats on users choice: Is users choose left (I doubt!), maybe this could become the default in future releases. But let users decide! -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
@Yann , Kindly stop changing the bug status! This bug has enough information , is there any information missing from the bug? Triaged means: * A member of UbuntuBugControl believes that the report describes a genuine bug in enough detail that a developer could start working on a fix * Use this when you are confident that it should be looked at by a developer and has enough information For more information on bug status , see : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status ** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
The developer in tis case is the design team. -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
I like much the idea of the text on the left side than in the center. The place of the control-buttons has no importance for me. -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
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[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
This bug description mentions two completely separate issues: the window buttons and the window title. On the other hand, discussion seems to be completely about the buttons. I suggest editing the description to simplify things and maybe filing another bug if there is another regression caused by the position of the window title. As well as being against the standard approach to how we manage bugs, putting both issues in one report is unfair to the other wishlist items being marked as duplicates of this one. The window title position is a considerably less polarizing issue and one that _is_ controlled by individual themes (instead of gconf settings). There's also the question of whether this is about the order of the buttons or just the side of the window they are on. The order of the buttons is what breaks other Metacity themes, while the side of the window is what really hurts muscle memory. I'm assuming you want them both back, but again, clarification in the bug description would go a long way. -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
I want to thank Mitch Towner for sharing the command to reverse the new ART: gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string :minimize,maximize,close It worked immediately, thank you very much! (As a Ubuntu user I would like to know all the commands to properly fix or configure the OS This is part of the Linux/Ubuntu way, namely: The freedom to control ones own OS, apps, and thereby be in control of one's PC. This choice has been taken away from us by Microsoft, and hopefully will be given back to the people through Linux and Ubuntu The tendency to control and have power over others is a huge BUG At least we can escape to Ubuntu for a little more freedom!) BavarianPH, Ubuntu forever! -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
The menu is missing in this command! gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string menu:minimize,maximize,close ;-P I think it would be better to switch the layout back because a lot of people strongly dislike the new layout. (It was not really welcomed by the Ubuntu users) The new button order also does not fit in well with a lot of other applications e.g. like Google Chrome or XMPP and no other major Linux Desktop uses it by default, which will confuse application developers. (The button order would have to be changed in KWin too to have a more consistent look) Also, the icon of the application is not visible in titlebar anymore, which makes the order of windows even more confusing. Would be good if a member of the Canonical design team could comment on this bug. -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
Setting to Low, as we have a workaround. ** Description changed: Binary package hint: light-themes - Please centre window title like in human theme and also order window controls in classic order(minimize, maximize close). + Please centre window title like in human theme and also order window controls in classic order(minimize, maximize close). Thanks, Majo + + -- WORKAROUND - + To revert to old layout, enter in terminal: + $ gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string menu:minimize,maximize,close ** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium = Low ** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/new-ubuntu-1004-light-and-dark- themes.html - window controls are already on right side. Please re-open this bug. -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
I'm not going to reopen a bug based upon a third party blog post when the wiki artwork created by Canonical is available which shows the new theme design. Bug is still invalid. -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
It is strange. As you can see in bug attachments, window controls were on right side(just in strange order-see bug description). But after recent update they are on left side again. It is quite big regression, because I have(naturally a lot of people) a lot of applications, which have classic window controls(minimize,maximize,close) on right side(chrome,lingea, audacious...). I think that majority of ubuntu users will not welcome this change positively. -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
@marian +1 -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
I just changed theme to human, but window controls remain on left side. It looks horrible.(Attachment:human-window-controls.png) And what about consistency with applications, which do not use metacity (compiz)? I think, that a lot of regular users will have problems with it(Attachment:consistence_with_other_applications.png). Light theme is not also very accessible for users with impaired mobility or users with poor sight(window controls over File/Edit...). Thank you very much, Majo ** Attachment added: human-window-controls.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40357203/human-window-controls.png -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
** Attachment added: consistence_with_other_applications.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40357243/consistence_with_other_applications.png -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
** Tags added: metabug -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
I have made this a master bug report or metabug as there are more reports coming in regarding this issue. -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
As stated on a duplicate bug report, if you are not happy with this design decision there is an easy workaround to revert this behaviour: gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string :minimize,maximize,close -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
This bug is not invalid. It would either be a Wont Fix or _might_ be re-considered for the final release. This decision is something that needs to be made by the Upstream authors. The light themes hasnt yet been hosted publicly , once that is done , the concerned authors will decide. ** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
Setting it to medium , since this is not just an aesthetic problem , but also forces users toloose muscle memory and change their usage patterns. ** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
I would add that the arrangement of window controls does not revert to the expected layout when switching from Light back to Human or other themes, nor is there any way for a user to choose how they want their windows laid out except for the above workaround. It's great that it's an aesthetic decision, but a) it should only impact the new themes, and b) should be more readily user-controlled in the event that it is unwelcome. -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
** Attachment added: non-centered title.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40247807/non-centered%20title.png -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
** Attachment added: centered title.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40247861/centered%20title.png -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
Thanks for reporting this bug and any supporting documentation. Since this bug has enough information provided for a developer to begin work, I'm going to mark it as confirmed and let them handle it from here. Thanks for taking the time to make Ubuntu better! ** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
Also do you think we could move the window buttons back to the upper right instead of the upper left over the File / Edit /Etc... -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
** Attachment added: Window buttons on the left http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40286341/windowButtonsLeft.png -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
James, that would need to be in a second bug... Now with the change of the window control buttons, I'm guessing that the title is meant to be this way.. -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls
After seeing this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand#New%20GtkThemes I am going to mark this bug invalid. ** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- [light-theme] please centre window title and order window controls https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
