[Bug 547139] Re: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts
** Also affects: mountall (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/547139 Title: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/547139/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 547139] Re: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts
I have this problem on Natty. On most boots, nfs shares never mount unless I do it manually. Based on the error messages produced when mountall runs, it looks like the problem is that nfs mounting is done by /etc/init/mountall-net.conf, which runs on net-device-up, but would need to run after statd is fully up and running in order to reliably mount nfs. I see an upstart script called statd-mounting.conf that might be useful here. Oddly, it doesn't seem to be referenced by any other upstart scripts. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/547139 Title: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/547139/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 547139] Re: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts
I have this problem on Natty. On most boots, nfs shares never mount unless I do it manually. That is not the problem described by this bug. This bug report is about the extra error message caused by trying to mount NFS before statd is running; failures to mount the filesystem at boot are tracked on bug #525154. ** Changed in: mountall (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/547139 Title: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/547139/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 547139] Re: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts
Okay, I'll follow that bug, but you might want to update the title of this one. The current title exactly describes the situation I'm seeing. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/547139 Title: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/547139/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 547139] Re: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts, generating a non-fatal warning
** Summary changed: - mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts + mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts, generating a non-fatal warning -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/547139 Title: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts, generating a non-fatal warning To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/547139/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 547139] Re: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts
I also have this problem, but in my case, the NFS share is _not_ mounted. From the console: [...] fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 /dev/mapper/tore.users-varlog: clean, 198/262144 files, 28568/524288 blocks Starting SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking. mount.nfs: Either use '-o nolock' to keep locks local, or start statd. mountall: mount /backup [441] terminated with status 32 spamd. [...] When the machine has finished booting, /backup is not mounted. Running mount /backup after the machine is up works without any problems. The relevant line in /etc/fstab is: nfs:/export/backup /backup nfs defaults,hard,intr 0 0 $ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Release:10.04 Codename: lucid Tore -- mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/547139 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 547139] Re: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts
There is no nfs-utils maintainer in Ubuntu, but as a frequent uploader of the package, I don't agree that it's a problem at all to try to mount NFS filesystems before statd starts. The only problem is if mountall fails to *retry* the mount once statd *does* start. Since you say the NFS filesystem does eventually get mounted, I regard the extra messages about failed mount attempts to be a 'wontfix' issue. If the filesystem fails entirely to be mounted, that's a bug - but that's already tracked as bug #525154. ** Changed in: nfs-utils (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/547139 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 547139] Re: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 13:20 +, Steve Langasek wrote: There is no nfs-utils maintainer in Ubuntu, but as a frequent uploader of the package, I don't agree that it's a problem at all to try to mount NFS filesystems before statd starts. The only problem is if mountall fails to *retry* the mount once statd *does* start. This sounds *very* race prone to me. Discarding proper ordering, hoping that a mop up later will fix things is just bad design, IMHO. There really is no need for it. ISTM that mountall is simply trying to do too much work all at once and too hastily. It is interesting that there is already mountall-net.conf which tells mountall (via SIGUSR1) when a network interface has become available. Perhaps mountall needs to be told when NFS (or any number of filesystems that have prerequisites) is fully available and wait for that before mounting NFS filesystems. Or mountall needs to be split into multiple tools and/or have multiple personalities which can be called to mount different filesystem (types) when the prerequisites for such filesystems have been met. Since you say the NFS filesystem does eventually get mounted, So far. But I will not be holding my breath on that. I regard the extra messages about failed mount attempts to be a 'wontfix' issue. That's a pity. Cleanliness should be every developer's goal. i.e. it should not be simply accepted that yeah, well there will be error messages on boot, but you can ignore them because it creates an environment of complacency where all errors are ignored. but you told me i could ignore errors on boot -- oh, not these error messages, just those other ones? how am i to know which errors i can ignore and which ones i can't? -- mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/547139 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 547139] Re: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts
I see that this was changed from mountall to nfs-utils. I wonder what the reasoning behind that is. It seems to me that it's mountall that's jumping the gun here and trying to mount nfs filesystems before nfs is ready. I can't imagine how nfs-utils can be responsible for or control what mountall is doing. Does the nfs-utils maintainer agree that this is an nfs-utils problem? -- mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/547139 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 547139] Re: mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts
** Package changed: mountall (Ubuntu) = nfs-utils (Ubuntu) -- mountall tries to mount NFS filesystem before statd starts https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/547139 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
