[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-12-28 Thread owenspa
I'm running KDE 4.5.4.  Fully uptodate.  On every reboot audio was muted with 
volume level at 44%.
I've tried all the solutions I could find in this list.

What worked for me was.

Set audio unmuted and at the required volume level using kmix.
(not sure if this is essential)

sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio

reboot.

(am I having deja vu - vague memories of 8.04 experiences)

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-10-21 Thread Jim Hunziker
I still had the problem after the fix, and one more thing fixed it for
me:

sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa-utils
sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-10-13 Thread Timothy Patishnock
I've tried #45 but nothing works on my end (Running on a model 5
Pangolin Performance from System76).

I'm also plagued by
1.) No startup sounds
2.) No log out sounds

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-10-11 Thread David Henningsson
Confirming that it is fixed. If it still appears for you, you're
probably affected by another bug.

** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Status: Triaged = Fix Released

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-10-07 Thread Andrea Amoroso
I still have the problem..it happens randomly, maybe when switching from
Unity to Ubuntu..at start I find the audio off..and if I try to reenable
audio and turn up the volume, tha audio still doesn't work..I managed to
make it work changing the connector 3 times or so in the output tab of
the audio preferences..when I select again Analog Speakers, that I had
previously, it works again..hope you find the solution soon..thanks..

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-10-07 Thread Andrea Amoroso
and yes, when unmuting the volume is at the lowest level, but not
working at all..

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-29 Thread Dave North
Initially I was going to comment that the bug showed up on my beta, but
even better I can add that after updating today, it went away. Hope that
proves useful.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-29 Thread LeDucDuBleuet
Same here, latest update solves the problem! Yeah! Thx all!

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-23 Thread Rick Spencer
** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu Maverick)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Luke Yelavich (themuso)

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-23 Thread Jake LeMaster
I've updated today and done as you said, but no luck.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-23 Thread Omer Akram
Yes, I had the problem in two different machines and now everything is
fine for me.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-23 Thread very
@Luke I followed your instructions as you said in post #45 and now
everything works fine. Thank you very much!

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-22 Thread David Henningsson
@Jake, it should be as simple to just change the volume to your
preferred one, then either reboot or log out, and it should store the
latest value, then restore it when you log in again. Repeat this
procedure for every user.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-22 Thread Jake LeMaster
I've done that multiple times and it doesn't work, unfortunately.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-21 Thread Alberto
What happens to me is the following:
1. I can here sometimes the login sound (once/twice out ten);
2. I never hear the logout sound
3. I sometimes hear the system sounds (but not loud...)

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-18 Thread Giorgi Maghlakelidze [DrAcid]
I think it got fixed after yesterday's(?) update... Everything's fine on
my HP Pavilion, x32 Maverick Beta with latest updates... :)

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-18 Thread luk1don
Yes, for me too.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-18 Thread Jonathan Rothwell
It's working mostly for me again (Maverick 32 with all updates), but I
now find that if I use fast user switching and log in as, say, the guest
user, the wrong audio device is selected and the volume is again muted
and at 0%.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-18 Thread Brice
On a single user machine, the latest updates solve the issue for me too.
If I find enough time, I'll try to create a new user and make some
tests.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-18 Thread very
A week ago I fixed this issue - temporarily - by commenting the line
load-module module-device-restore in the file /etc/pulse/default.pa ,
as someone else recommended.

But since the last 2 updates (one this morning and one a few days ago)
no matter if that line is commented or not I stil have no audio since
the audio after I restart is always muted.

Also, now, when I try to open my Audio/Sound Preferences to raise the
volume it takes more than 5-10 minutes to open if it opens at all,
because right now I'm just getting a window with a message that says
something in the line: Watiting for the audio/sound system to respond
(my system is not in English) and I just have to press Cancel.

Thanks.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-18 Thread Jake LeMaster
Daniel, but how would I fix the problem for an existing user? I've
already tried stopping pulse and deleting .pulse* from the home
directory.

I'm glad that when I start my computer and login to my username, my
sound isn't muted upon entering my session anymore. But I'm still
troubled by the fact this isn't guaranteed for other user sessions that
may start during (like with fast user switching) or after that initial
session. They still get muted sound upon login.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-16 Thread luk1don
I can confirm too, but now sound is muted for the some time.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-16 Thread angel orna
it is working fine for me (ubuntu 10.10 beta)

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-16 Thread Jake LeMaster
This is now fixed for me after the latest update to alsa-utils this
morning.

* debian/init: Restore change from 1.0.21-1ubuntu2 lost during merge
that skips muting and zeroing levels prior to shutdown/reboot,
which was a hack for broken drivers.  This change closes LP: #21804,
LP: #208920, #227505, #360108, #432660, #449783, #553132, #564472,
LP: #584609, #592016, #596360, #613054, #617516, #622487, #632019.

Thanks.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-16 Thread Jake LeMaster
Perhaps I spoke a little too soon. It does indeed appear to be *mostly*
fixed (sound isn't muted now upon boot), but I just logged out of one
user and into another, and the second user had muted sound. The levels
weren't zeroed, but it was indeed muted when it shouldn't have been. (No
login sound or anything.) Blah.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-16 Thread Daniel T Chen
Jake, was the second user an existing one or a new one?  Note that for
existing users, it isn't an alsa issue but what pulseaudio has stored
for that user.  You should try and reproduce the issue with a brand new
user.

Note also that the graphical greeter has a corresponding user. :-)

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-16 Thread Raymond
 so the current factory default levels (e g, what you get if you
boot a Live-CD)

The controls are muted by default by the driver to prevent accidental
damage of the speaker ,

The volume of Live-CD is the result of alsactl init

If you use alsactl store -f original.txt before you logout/reboot

After you login/boot  and the pulseaudio restore the volume

 alsactl store -f current.txt

and compare with the controls in current.txt and original.txt

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-15 Thread eZFlow
It doesn't happen on my main system with a sb audigy 2 but it does
happen on an older pc with sb live!

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-13 Thread Johannes Schmitz
I can confirm the always mute problem in beta.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-10 Thread David Henningsson
So getting to this seems pretty hard. I think we're going to need a
startup/shutdown expert to fix this the right way.

Here is what *should* happen, in that order:

#1) PulseAudio plays the log-out sound, if any
#2) All applications accessing PA should quit
#3) PA should store current volume, then quit
#4) alsa-utils should mute the card to prepare for shutdown

#1 and #2 can go in parallel.

What we know so far is that #4 happens before #3 and probably before #2 as 
well, and #1 does not happen at all ( see bug #214370 ). We should probably try 
to delay #4 rather than killing PA earlier, to prevent us from making it harder 
to fix #1. 
Perhaps we should also prevent PA from autospawning if the runlevel is 0 or 6.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-10 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Subscribing Scott, as a world expert on startup / shutdown :-)

Scott, do you think David's outline in
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/592016/comments/26
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Re: [Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth

OK, I'm reassured you're on the case of the underlying bug :)

With regard to the 65%, I do understand that there are outliers. But I
feel strongly that we should pick a reasonable level, and fix the
outliers. Turning the computer on and having no sound always feels
like a problem. The chances of setting some level like 65% causing
deafness are so remote that I think it's better for us to give the new
user a straightforward starting position.

Mark

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-09 Thread David Henningsson
@Mark, IIRC, PulseAudio does not mess with the controls unless the
volume control is actually moved, so the current factory default
levels (e g, what you get if you boot a Live-CD) are what you see in
/sbin/alsa-utils (function sanify_levels_on_card()). Most of them
(front, pcm, master) are set to 80%.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-08 Thread David Henningsson
Isn't this a race between pulseaudio quitting, and alsa-utils muting the
output to prepare for shutdown? Can we fix this by changing /etc/init
/alsa-mixer-save.conf

from

start on starting rc RUNLEVEL=[06]

to something like:

start on (starting rc RUNLEVEL=[06]) and (there is no pulseaudio process
left)

...however you write that in upstart, if it's even possible?

I e, start when both conditions are fulfilled. Optionally keep it as it
is, then wait for pulseaudio to be killed before continuing.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-08 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I've noticed this with a USB headset. If we're going to have a default
level in Ubuntu it should be 65% please, but the best is to reset to the
former level of the same device.

** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Also affects: pulseaudio (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Importance: High
   Status: Confirmed

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-08 Thread Daniel T Chen
David: sounds reasonable, go for it!

Regarding Mark's comments, there are actually a couple pieces here.
Firstly, we're incorrectly using alsactl via the udev script; the fix
for that is in maverick's alsa-utils bzr branch. Secondly, percentage
isn't precise for default levels given the inordinate number of
hardware quirks, particularly with usb audio devices. Most of those
devices behave wildly differently at 65%, and dB information isn't
precise for a nontrivial number of them.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-08 Thread David Henningsson
Okay, so just to test, I hacked /sbin/alsa-utils stop a little to wait
for pulseaudio to quit, but I had a timeout of 15 seconds and after that
time, pulseaudio was still alive. So something should tell pulseaudio to
shutdown, but it doesn't.

** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Status: Confirmed = Triaged

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-05 Thread Jorge Suárez de Lis
Same here. Upgraded after alpha 3 release.

I tried creating a new user and rebooting directly into his account and
no dice.

Doug McMahon workaround [1] fixed this for me.

[1]
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/592016/comments/1

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-05 Thread Colin Mills
I installed Ubuntu 10.10 Beta (64 bit) and encountered the bug, the
sound was muted and when unmuted the sound was set to minimum.

The workaround suggested by Doug McMahon and Jorge Suárez de Lis
(https:/ /bugs.launchpad .net/ubuntu/ +source/ pulseaudio/ +bug/592016/
comments/ 1) fixed the problem for me as well.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-05 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/alsa-utils/ubuntu.new

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-03 Thread Brice
Same problem here on an Alpha 3 fresh install and fully upgraded.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-03 Thread Björn Schließmann
Still present as of  pulseaudio 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-
queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu17. No behavioural changes whatsoever.

(BTW, this version is listed in changelog with date 2010-07-21 -- I
wonder which recent updated posting #11 refers to?)

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-02 Thread rafal cieslak
Could you check whether it is still present? Recent updated fixed it for
me.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-02 Thread David Stansby
Yep, fixed for me. Marking as fix-released

** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-02 Thread Jake LeMaster
This isn't completely fixed. It's still here in a strange way.

For my account, the issue is gone. But for the second user account on my
machine, the bug still exists. Here are peculiar things I can easily
reproduce:

Consider user A my account - sound always works fine. User B is the
account where sound will still start muted.

1. Log into user B first after booting the computer.
2. Sound is muted.
3. Switch to user A.
4. Sound works. (Login theme plays and everything.)
5. Switch back to user B - sound is no longer muted and is working.
6. Switch to user A and log out.
7. Switch to user B and log out.
8. Log back into user B.
9. Sound is muted again.
10. Repeat steps 3-9 as many times as you want.

It's like Pulse isn't working for user B unless user A logged in at
some point during user B's session. I wouldn't know what's really going
on, but I can reproduce it trivially everytime with those steps. It
doesn't require rebooting or anything. Any idea?

** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released = Confirmed

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Re: [Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-02 Thread Luke Yelavich
Jake, could you clear out all .pulse related files from the user with
the problem, and try again? The easiest way to do this is to log out, go
t a text console, make sure you don't have any pulseaudio processes for
that user running, and rm -rf .pulse* in your home directory.

Thanks.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-09-02 Thread Jake LeMaster
Hi Luke, I tried your suggestion and it didn't help. I actually did it
for both accounts, and now the one that was working is back to having
the muted problem again too. :/

If you yourself try what you suggested, does it make the problem come
back? Or for anyone else?

Is there anything else I should try?

And just for the record, I am indeed running a fully up-to-date standard
Maverick.

Thanks.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-08-26 Thread Jake LeMaster
I can confirm Luke's observations.

Doug, I've never fiddled with alsamixer and still have the bug.

** Attachment added: pulseverbose.log
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/592016/+attachment/1520263/+files/pulseverbose.log

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-08-22 Thread Doug McMahon
What has come up is that this may be related to alsa-utils

On machines where alsa-utils is installed, but alsamixer never run then sound 
on boot is fine (not muted and or set to 0
Once alsamixer has been run once, then on reboot sound is either muted @level 0 
or just set to level 0

maybe in question is this line? line 385 
mute_and_zero_levels $TARGET_CARD || EXITSTATUS=1


(removing the line or setting the 1 to 0 and sound is always fine on boot, even 
is alsamixer has been used

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-08-21 Thread Doug McMahon
On a laptop with stereo output installed from 1 day pre alpha 3 this is
no longer an issue other than an occasional boot to MUTED sound

On a desktop with 5.1 analog output, installed alpha 1, commenting the line and 
a log out/login produces no change, ie. sound levels stay the same.
However a re-start will produce sound level set to 0 ( note that the sound is 
not muted, just set to 0
Attached log as requested from the desktop


** Attachment added: pulseverbose.log
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/592016/+attachment/1508445/+files/pulseverbose.log

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-08-21 Thread Doug McMahon
Line 3 above should read
. uncommenting the line

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-07-29 Thread Doug McMahon
This appears to be a continuing issue for many - whether the volume is actually 
muted or just set to 0 at boot.
Commenting the mentioned line does resolve for most ...

( The pcm levels I mentioned in previous post (5.1 output),  were the
actual pcm's that affected the various channel levels - not the pcm
level which affects nothing. (in a 5.1 setup

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Re: [Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-07-29 Thread Luke Yelavich
I can also confirm this issue both on a desktop with a quad core, and a
MacBook Pro 4,1 with a Core2 Duo CPU.

Could everybody with this issue try the following for me:

1. If you have the above line commented, please uncomment it.
2. In your logins ession, set up the volume to your satisfaction.
3. Log out of your session, don't restart or shut down, log out.
4. Restart your system.
5. Log back into your session.

If you still have sound volumes set correctly, then this confirms what I
am seeing, where pulse seems to get messed up on restart, but if you log
out of your session and then restart from the login screen, things seem
to be ok.

If you can confirm the above, please follow the procedure outlined here,
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/Log and leave pulseaudio running in a
terminal. Restart your system from within your session, and confirm that
your audio is muted on next login. Attach the log to this bug, so we can
see whether everyone gets the same behavior from pulse when you restart.

Thanks for your help in debugging this.

Luke

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-06-28 Thread Doug McMahon
Actually I like it the way pulse is now - hopefully it won't get messed
up if this is fixed.

With that line commented out pulse will not change the  pcm level on boot if 
lowered in alsamixer from the inexplicable  default of 100.
(there is no reason to use a pcm or any other level of 100 with desktop speaker 
systems - it produces distorted and clipped sound

Additionally on a 5.1 desktop system it leaves the output device device
at surround 5.1

(previously in karmic, lucid,  setting pulse not to reset pcm to 100
resulted in the output device being set to stereo, at least here.

So I'm all for just commenting that line out and leaving things be...

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-06-22 Thread liamdawe
On every boot up i also seem to be muted on my eeepc.

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-06-22 Thread David Stansby
Yep, same here on a MacBook

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[Bug 592016] Re: [Maverick] Sound is always muted on startup; unmuting makes the volume at lowest level

2010-06-13 Thread Doug McMahon
Can confirm same here - always boots to muted  sound

As a temp workaround in /etc/pulse/default.pa find this line and comment
it out (seems counter-intuitive,, but works

load-module module-device-restore

** Changed in: ubuntu
   Status: New = Confirmed

** Package changed: ubuntu = pulseaudio (Ubuntu)

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