[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
[Expired for linux (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60 days.] ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
Henri Reinikainen, if you have a bug in Ubuntu, the Ubuntu Kernel team, Ubuntu Bug Control team, and Ubuntu Bug Squad would like you to please file a new report by executing the following in a terminal: ubuntu-bug linux For more on this, please see the Ubuntu Kernel team article: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies#Filing_Kernel_Bug_reports the Ubuntu Bug Control team and Ubuntu Bug Squad team article: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/BestPractices#X.2BAC8-Reporting.Focus_on_One_Issue and Ubuntu Community article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Bug_reporting_etiquette When opening up the new report, please feel free to subscribe me to it. Please note, not filing a new report would delay your problem being addressed as quickly as possible. Thank you for your understanding. ** Attachment removed: dmesg boot with processor.max_cstate=1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+attachment/3701980/+files/dmesg.cstate.out ** Attachment removed: dmesg boot with nolapic_timer clocksource=jiffies https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+attachment/3701981/+files/dmesg.jiffies.out ** Attachment removed: dmesg boot normal https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+attachment/3701982/+files/dmesg.normal.out -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Expired = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
I have AMILO Pi 2540 laptop With Intel T2398 (http://ark.intel.com/products/35153/Intel-Pentium- Processor-T2390-1M-Cache-1_86-GHz-533-MHz-FSB), my system worked perfectly. After upgrading to Intel T8100 (http://ark.intel.com/products/33916 /Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-T8100-3M-Cache-2_10-GHz-800-MHz-FSB), I started to having problems as described in this (and #669535) bug. I have not (yet) tried processor.max_cstate=1 as described in Bug #669535, but with nolapic_timer clocksource=jiffies kernel parameters everything seems to work. (~24h up and running with no trouble) There is also 1.15c bios update for AMILO Pi 2540, that I have not tried yet. My system is Ubuntu 13.04 with Linux 3.8.0-23-generic kernel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
** Attachment added: dmesg boot with processor.max_cstate=1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+attachment/3701980/+files/dmesg.cstate.out -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
I don't know if these are any help, there is no error messages anywhere. ** Attachment added: dmesg boot normal https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+attachment/3701982/+files/dmesg.normal.out -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
** Attachment added: dmesg boot with nolapic_timer clocksource=jiffies https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+attachment/3701981/+files/dmesg.jiffies.out -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
btw processor.max_cstate=1 seem to work too. I did not give much uptime to that. I'm not sure which is better solution. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
[Expired for linux (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60 days.] ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
Michael Mulqueen, thank you for reporting this and helping make Ubuntu better. Maverick reached EOL on April 10, 2012. Please see this document for currently supported Ubuntu releases: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases We were wondering if this is still an issue in a supported release? If so, can you try with the latest development release of Ubuntu? ISO CD images are available from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/ . If it remains an issue, could you run the following command in a supported release from a Terminal (Applications-Accessories-Terminal). It will automatically gather and attach updated debug information to this report. apport-collect -p linux replace-with-bug-number Also, if you could test the latest upstream kernel available that would be great. It will allow additional upstream developers to examine the issue. Refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds . Please do not test the kernel in the daily folder, but the one all the way at the bottom. Once you've tested the upstream kernel, please remove the 'needs-upstream-testing' tag. This can be done by clicking on the yellow pencil icon next to the tag located at the bottom of the bug description and deleting the 'needs-upstream-testing' text. As well, please comment on which kernel version specifically you tested. If this bug is fixed in the mainline kernel, please add the following tag 'kernel-fixed-upstream'. If the mainline kernel does not fix this bug, please add the tag: 'kernel-bug-exists-upstream'. If you are unable to test the mainline kernel, for example it will not boot, please add the tag: 'kernel-unable-to-test-upstream', and comment as to why specifically you were unable to test it. Please let us know your results. Thanks in advance. ** Tags added: maverick needs-upstream-testing ** Description changed: Ubuntu Maverick (up-to-date with latest packages as of 19:25 GMT September 20th) Essentially, unless the keyboard or mouse is constantly in use, the system freezes/locks up/appears to be doing nothing. As soon as the keyboard is pressed or the mouse is moved, everything starts going again. - ** - As a temporary workaround, add the kernel option nolapic_timer (thanks to Michael Mulqueen) - ** + WORKAROUND: add the kernel option nolapic_timer (thanks to Michael + Mulqueen) Examples: * System will never make it through boot process unless ctrl (or other) key is held down, just hangs * I'm watching a video, if I don't hold down a key, press a key every few seconds or constantly move the mouse, then it will stop playing and the sound will loop, playback resumes as normal as soon as I trigger an input again * I'm running aptitude update, if I don't keep moving the mouse or whatever, it will appear to stop doing anything (get stuck). I can't tell whether it is doing nothing or just appearing to do nothing. Again, as soon as I trigger an input again, everything starts back up (for a few seconds and then it stops again, unless I keep triggering inputs) * I'm shutting down, it won't ever get there unless I keep pressing/hold down keys, it will just hang. I've left it all night and in the morning it's still stuck at the same point. Hold down a key and off it goes again. It affects everything, not just these things. These are just some of the best examples. Freeze ups are not localised to one window, seems to affect everything. I can't be sure, but I reckon it is probably doing something funny with the hard disk when on battery mode (seems to be spinning up and down more often). Hard disk partitions are all ext4, both have plenty of free space. It seems to have been a problem since I upgraded to Maverick a week or two ago. But in the last day it has become more severe. Previously, it only seemed to affect boot up and down, not it is affecting normal desktop usage (like videos). May coincide with a recent update to 2.6.35-22 from 2.6.35-x. I have booted into 2.6.32-x instead and the problem does not exist at all there. Definitely did not exist in Lucid either. Definitely looks like a kernel issue based on that. Hardware is Lenovo Ideapad S12 with Intel Atom processor and Intel graphics. This a big problem for me. It is making my computer almost unusable. Please could someone look into this urgently. ** Attachment removed: dmesg.bz2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+attachment/2655865/+files/dmesg.bz2 ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Incomplete ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
I had this on a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric) on an Acer Travelmate 230. Problem exists after installing updates. Seems similar to bug #646638 (as someone noticed there), #657990 and #638434. Perhaps they should be marked as duplicates? Adding dmesg, in case someone wants it. ** Attachment added: dmesg.bz2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+attachment/2655865/+files/dmesg.bz2 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
Adding nolapic_timer to boot params did NOT fix the problem for me. Just nolapic worked. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
Sorry for spamming, but perhaps it's better for this bug if I get it right. Actually nolapic wasn't completely stable either. My system eventually locked/froze completely. I did cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/available_clocksource and the only available is acpi_pm, which I guess means no dice with the clocksource=jiffies option. Last choice seems to be nohz=off, and it works. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/643822/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
I've been having this problem. I'm on a dual-booting system (Sony VAIO VGN-SR16GN) and oddly this doesn't affect my normal Ubuntu distribution, but the same version (10.10) installed as a server setup had this issue. ** Description changed: Ubuntu Maverick (up-to-date with latest packages as of 19:25 GMT September 20th) Essentially, unless the keyboard or mouse is constantly in use, the system freezes/locks up/appears to be doing nothing. As soon as the keyboard is pressed or the mouse is moved, everything starts going again. + + ** + As a temporary workaround, add the kernel option nolapic_timer (thanks to Michael Mulqueen) + ** Examples: * System will never make it through boot process unless ctrl (or other) key is held down, just hangs * I'm watching a video, if I don't hold down a key, press a key every few seconds or constantly move the mouse, then it will stop playing and the sound will loop, playback resumes as normal as soon as I trigger an input again * I'm running aptitude update, if I don't keep moving the mouse or whatever, it will appear to stop doing anything (get stuck). I can't tell whether it is doing nothing or just appearing to do nothing. Again, as soon as I trigger an input again, everything starts back up (for a few seconds and then it stops again, unless I keep triggering inputs) * I'm shutting down, it won't ever get there unless I keep pressing/hold down keys, it will just hang. I've left it all night and in the morning it's still stuck at the same point. Hold down a key and off it goes again. It affects everything, not just these things. These are just some of the best examples. Freeze ups are not localised to one window, seems to affect everything. I can't be sure, but I reckon it is probably doing something funny with the hard disk when on battery mode (seems to be spinning up and down more often). Hard disk partitions are all ext4, both have plenty of free space. It seems to have been a problem since I upgraded to Maverick a week or two ago. But in the last day it has become more severe. Previously, it only seemed to affect boot up and down, not it is affecting normal desktop usage (like videos). May coincide with a recent update to 2.6.35-22 from 2.6.35-x. I have booted into 2.6.32-x instead and the problem does not exist at all there. Definitely did not exist in Lucid either. Definitely looks like a kernel issue based on that. Hardware is Lenovo Ideapad S12 with Intel Atom processor and Intel graphics. This a big problem for me. It is making my computer almost unusable. Please could someone look into this urgently. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
Had exactly the same problem with freezing Lenovo S12 on Atom and Intel graphics. Tried Ubuntu NR, Kubuntu 10.10, Slax and OpenGeu - behaviour is nearly the same. Today tried to add nolapic_timer on Mint 10 - works great! no freezes noticed on boot or regular jobs. Next, will install Kubuntu 10.10 and try this trick over there.. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
Following this advice (also shown earlier in this thread) I've been happy with my Ideapad S12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IdeaPadS/Fixes On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Oleksandr Yefremov 643...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Had exactly the same problem with freezing Lenovo S12 on Atom and Intel graphics. Tried Ubuntu NR, Kubuntu 10.10, Slax and OpenGeu - behaviour is nearly the same. Today tried to add nolapic_timer on Mint 10 - works great! no freezes noticed on boot or regular jobs. Next, will install Kubuntu 10.10 and try this trick over there.. -- You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
This is fixed for me in the latest rc of 2.6.37, I created a .deb file but it's rather large.. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
@Michael: Sorry for keeping you for so long. Setting nolapic on the ASUS notebook did not help (it made the machine boot into a black screen and hang). The option nohz=off, however, works. What is this option? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
@Rüdiger, I don't really understand it enough to explain it, but I understand the general gist of it. This bug is related to the way that the kernel keeps time. The way the kernel used to work (by default) was by ticking. The new way is tickless. nohz=on is tickless, nohz=off is tickful. I won't even try to explain it. Some explanation here that was published when it was added to the kernel: http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS5286251174.html Regards, Mike -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 Title: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
still present on natty live cd on a lenovo S12 (intel version) -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
I ran into this yesterday on Kubuntu 10.10 running the generic kernel. Adding nolapic_timer to the boot arguments does not help at all, additionally the grub splashscreen does not appear. Any information or testing I can do to help troubleshoot it? -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
I confirm this problem on an ASUS Notebook. It behaves exactly as described in #1. Something stops basically all processing until the mouse is moved or any key hit. I find myself hitting Shift constantly just to keep things going. I confirm that it's very unspecific and seems to affect everything. It has a severe impact on the general usability of the computer. The problem appeared after upgrade to Maverick. It was never present before. -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
@Rüdiger, have you tried my workaround as mentioned in the above comments? If so, did it work? Also, are you experiencing any problems with wireless networking, because I am and I'm wondering whether there is any connection between this bug and it. Regards, Mike (original submitter) 2010/11/6 Rüdiger Kupper ruediger.kupper+launch...@gmail.com: I confirm this problem on an ASUS Notebook. It behaves exactly as described in #1. Something stops basically all processing until the mouse is moved or any key hit. I find myself hitting Shift constantly just to keep things going. I confirm that it's very unspecific and seems to affect everything. It has a severe impact on the general usability of the computer. The problem appeared after upgrade to Maverick. It was never present before. -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
I have exactly the same problem, I use 10.10 but i run the same issue in previous versions. Any idea on how to solve it? -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
@Aaron, Have you tried the nolapic_timer workaround as described in my post on September 22nd, 2010? -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
on my S12 this has got much worse on maverick (compared with lucid). the nolapic_timer works around it. -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
think this is also the same as http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/10/10/94 and bug #646638 -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
Another report from a Lenovo S12. What I've noticed regarding this bug is that it isn't new to Maverick. In previous versions, mostly when I've first upgraded, the boot won't continue unless I bump the mouse or hit the shift key. Then I'll see the hard drive go for a bit. Another bump, I get a bit further. In Maverick I can usually get logged in, but if I do nothing, I'll see the system monitor (I've added it to the top panel) freeze. If I move the mouse, it kicks in again. I'll also notice if I'm at the busy cursor (the circular spinny thing) it will stop spinning unless I bump the mouse. -Mike -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
setting the clock to show seconds also makes it quite obvious. there is another report at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9954714 it says that clocksource=jiffies as a boot arg fixes it -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
Well we solved our problem. 1. Added Nvidia 4000mx graphics card with drivers from nvidia website. This made things run faster and minimized the problem. Saw it once and hour rather then every 3 minutes. 2. Replaced the CPU with an Intel E5400 (from the Celeron P4 that was in there) The new CPU cured it permanently. Then again, might not have really fixed the problem... just given the system enough power now to skip over it. -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
I've found a workaround. I did a lot of searching, looking for similar problems and then tried about 15 different things, 2 worked. If you use the kernel flag nolapic_timer, the problem goes away. A proper solution still needs to be found though. The kernel flag nohz=off also works, but it doesn't seem to play nicely with my wireless networking. To do this in the long term: (Do all of these steps as root) Open: /etc/default/grup Change: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash To: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash nolapic_timer Run: update-grub -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
@G M Carter, how were you going to disable i915? Simply blacklisting it didn't work for me. I'm up for trying almost anything that will help tie this problem down. -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
removed and blacklisted but no help. I'm having my father bring the system here. I'm going to start replacing components and see what happens. Won't be for a few days though. On 21/09/10 01:02 PM, Michael Mulqueen wrote: @G M Carter, how were you going to disable i915? Simply blacklisting it didn't work for me. I'm up for trying almost anything that will help tie this problem down. -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
Update: I have just tried the earliest version of 2.6.35 that I have, which is 2.6.35-19, and I can confirm that it exists there too and is just as bad. -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
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[Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
I actually have the same problem in Fedora 13. Except my system boots all the way and allows for login. But every so often (with increasing frequency) the system freezes. To get it back hit CTRL-ALT or something and it return. Might not be the same problem but sounds similar. -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
Definitely sounds familiar. When this problem was happening to me but was less severe, I was doing the pretty much the same. Do you know whether this has been reported upstream to the kernel developers? I will contact the company that I bought my notebook from, they sell a lot of linux devices and use them extensively themselves so they might be able to help. I'll report back if I have any good news. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM, G. Michael Carter 643...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I actually have the same problem in Fedora 13. Except my system boots all the way and allows for login. But every so often (with increasing frequency) the system freezes. To get it back hit CTRL-ALT or something and it return. Might not be the same problem but sounds similar. -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
No I haven't reported it. I was taking this from the angle of a hardware problem. I have two of these computers. The only differences, one I put in a Nvidia Card (to get dual monitor support), and CPUs are different. The problem computers is using the on-board intel graphics card. I've just removed the intel drivers to see what happens but unfortunately my dad's gone off line. (which it's his computer that has the problems, 2 hour's drive away so can't just pop over... grin) I noticed just before the freeze the rtkit canary goes hungry and the interrupt requests go through the roof. The i915 driver also seems to pop up in the top logs for a second as using 99% CPU. Once my father comes back on-line I'll try with the intel drivers removed to see if it makes a difference. I have nine Fedora 13 systems, that one is the only system with a problem. On 20/09/10 04:31 PM, Michael Mulqueen wrote: Definitely sounds familiar. When this problem was happening to me but was less severe, I was doing the pretty much the same. Do you know whether this has been reported upstream to the kernel developers? I will contact the company that I bought my notebook from, they sell a lot of linux devices and use them extensively themselves so they might be able to help. I'll report back if I have any good news. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM, G. Michael Carter 643...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I actually have the same problem in Fedora 13. Except my system boots all the way and allows for login. But every so often (with increasing frequency) the system freezes. To get it back hit CTRL-ALT or something and it return. Might not be the same problem but sounds similar. -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
Right, just came back to my computer after leaving it idle for a while, looked at the time on it, thought that it couldn't be right, looked at my phone, knew it wasn't right. Ran ntpdate-debian to fix it and to be sure. It was _40 minutes_ out. That shows that this isn't just cosmetic. This is actually stopping the continuous execution of processes (and ones as basic as time keeping processes). -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 643822] Re: System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used
I was running this on my system. I was hoping to catch something happening just before the freeze. nohup top -b -i -d 5 -c /var/log/cf_top.log nohup vmstat 5 -t /var/log/cf_vmstat.log Might help you debug the issue. Just remember if you leave them running it will fill up your hard drive. On 20/09/10 06:03 PM, Michael Mulqueen wrote: Right, just came back to my computer after leaving it idle for a while, looked at the time on it, thought that it couldn't be right, looked at my phone, knew it wasn't right. Ran ntpdate-debian to fix it and to be sure. It was _40 minutes_ out. That shows that this isn't just cosmetic. This is actually stopping the continuous execution of processes (and ones as basic as time keeping processes). -- System freezes unless mouse/keyboard constantly used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/643822 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
