[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: eog (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 Title: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evince/+bug/644168/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
** Changed in: evince Status: Unknown = Won't Fix ** Changed in: evince Importance: Unknown = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 Title: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evince/+bug/644168/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
** Changed in: gnome-utils Status: New = Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 Title: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evince/+bug/644168/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
** Changed in: gnome-utils (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 Title: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
why is that a gnome-utils issue? ** Changed in: gnome-utils (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: gnome-utils (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete ** Changed in: evince (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: eog (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 Title: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
Fixed in Pinta: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pinta/+bug/644846 ** Changed in: pinta Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 Title: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
** Changed in: shutter Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 Title: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
Photos are often meant to be shared -- e.g. sent by email to a friend. We may not know what software will be used to view the photos we share; and unfortunately there's still a lot of software out there that does not make use of the exif orientation tag. (It seems to me that Firefox and Thunderbird do not respect the exif orientation tag in jpeg files, and nor does Windows 7.) So sometimes the best thing to do is to actually rotate the image data. This applies even to odd-sized jpeg files, where rotation cannot be completely lossless. It at least needs to be an option. Unfortunately, we can't add Windows 7 to the Affects list ... Since digital cameras usually produce jpegs of a size for which lossless rotation is possible, this really should be an option on import, as it is in many other applications. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 Title: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
mannheim, that's a good point. I've updated the upstream ticket (http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/2581) to be called optionally rotate JPEG pixels, and I agree it would be good to offer this as an option. We could offer to rotate at export time and/or when importing. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 Title: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
It'd be good to have that option not enabled by default, so to encourage other apps to start respecting exif. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 Title: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
The libpixbuf backend (providing the ability to open jpeg files) has been removed upstream: The pixbuf backend is just a toy, Evince is not an image viewer, use eog instead. ** Changed in: evince (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid ** Changed in: evince Importance: Undecided = Unknown ** Changed in: evince Status: New = Unknown ** Changed in: evince Remote watch: None = GNOME Bug Tracker #630307 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 Title: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
Fixed in https://github.com/jpobst/Pinta/commit/de8c70e2e87dbe7cdfb17765b5b7edf37acca88b. ** Changed in: pinta Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: pinta Status: New = Fix Committed ** Changed in: pinta Milestone: None = 0.6 -- Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
** Also affects: gnome-utils (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: evince (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: eog (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
** Changed in: shutter Status: In Progress = Fix Committed -- Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
** Changed in: shutter Milestone: None = 0.87 ** Changed in: shutter Assignee: (unassigned) = Mario Kemper (Romario) (mario-kemper) ** Changed in: shutter Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: shutter Status: New = In Progress -- Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
** Changed in: gnome-utils Status: Unknown = New ** Changed in: gnome-utils Importance: Unknown = Medium -- Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
2) When GNOME takes a screenshot, it does not add any EXIF data at all. ... Should I fill a bug for gnome-screenshot ? EXIF is not required for image files. If it's not present the orientation is assumed to be Top Left, which means no rotation. So, no, I don't think gnome-screenshot is at fault here. However, now that I look a little closer I do see one potential issue ... we're using the EXIF Orientation field to rotate PNG files. This is important with lossy formats, like JPEG, but not as much a win with lossless formats, like PNG. More significantly, EXIF is closely associated with JPEG and digital photography, but not nearly as widespread in the computer graphics (i.e. PNG) world. The problem with GIMP and EoG may simply be that they're not reading the EXIF data from the PNG. (In fact, libexif doesn't even support reading EXIF from PNG, one reason we switched to Exiv2). We should be more cognizant of this in Shotwell. When we export a non- JPEG file, we shouldn't rely on the Orientation field to rotate it. I've ticketed this: http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/2585 If those other apps are not respecting the Orientation field in a JPEG file, I do consider that to be a problem. Most modern cameras generate the field rather than rotate the image prior to encoding. ** Bug watch added: trac.yorba.org/ #2585 http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/2585 -- Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
** Also affects: evince Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: shutter Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: pinta Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
According to http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/2581 , this looks to be 2 separate problems: 1) Some apps don't respect the EXIF orientation flag. I opened upstream bugs for this : Evince : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=630307 Shutter : https://bugs.launchpad.net/shutter/+bug/644847 Pinta : https://bugs.launchpad.net/pinta/+bug/644846 KolourPaint : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252003 There are maybe more apps with this problem... 2) When GNOME takes a screenshot, it does not add any EXIF data at all. If you then rotate this screenshot in Shotwell and save, it contains only the Exif.Image.Orientation tag and no others: a...@adam-desktop:~/shotwell-0.7$ exiv2 -pa '/home/adam/Desktop/Screenshot.png' Exif.Image.Orientation Short 1 bottom, right Xmp.tiff.ImageWidth XmpText 1 3 a...@adam-desktop:~/shotwell-0.7$ Then, other photo applications including Eye of GNOME and GIMP will not notice the EXIF orientation in this case. I am not sure what is the best way to solve this. Should I fill a bug for gnome-screenshot ? ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #630307 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=630307 ** Bug watch added: KDE Bug Tracking System #252003 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252003 -- Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
I filled a bug for gnome-utils (gnome screenshot) : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=630308 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #630308 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=630308 ** Also affects: gnome-utils via https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=630308 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
** Description changed: Binary package hint: shotwell Rotate a picture with Shotwell Picture Viewer 0.7.2 (on Ubuntu 10.04), save the changes and close Shotwell. Then re-open the picture with one of the following applications and check what appears : - the rotation is NOT taken into account by : Evince, Shutter, Pinta, - KolourPaint?. + KolourPaint. - - the rotation is taken into account by : Shotwell, EyeOfGnome?, gThumb, - gPicView, GwenView?, Fspot, fotoxx + - the rotation is taken into account by : Shotwell, EyeOfGnome, gThumb, + gPicView, GwenView, Fspot, fotoxx - Gimp displays the following message : according to the EXIF data, this picture is rotated. Keep orientation or rotate? - Remark : this is NOT a duplicate of bug #644133 -- Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
Thanks for the bug report and sending it upstream. ** Changed in: shotwell (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: shotwell (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged -- Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
** Description changed: Binary package hint: shotwell Rotate a picture with Shotwell Picture Viewer 0.7.2 (on Ubuntu 10.04), save the changes and close Shotwell. Then re-open the picture with one of the following applications and check what appears : - - the rotation is NOT taken into account by : Evince, Shutter, Pinta, - KolourPaint. + 1ST TEST (with a picture downloaded from internet) : + - the rotation is NOT taken into account by : Evince, Shutter, Pinta, KolourPaint. + - the rotation is taken into account by : Shotwell, EyeOfGnome, gThumb, gPicView, GwenView, Fspot, fotoxx + - Gimp displays the following message : according to the EXIF data, this picture is rotated. Keep orientation or rotate? - - the rotation is taken into account by : Shotwell, EyeOfGnome, gThumb, - gPicView, GwenView, Fspot, fotoxx + NEXT TESTS (with fresh screenshots taken in my session) : + - the rotation is NOT taken into account by all the applications except Shotwell + - Gimp does not display the message any more. - - Gimp displays the following message : according to the EXIF data, - this picture is rotated. Keep orientation or rotate? - Remark : this is NOT a duplicate of bug #644133 + Remark : bug #644133 may be a duplicate of this one. -- Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 644168] Re: Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications
** Changed in: shotwell Status: Unknown = New -- Rotation in Shotwell is incompatible with some other applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/644168 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
