Re: [Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-14 Thread alfille
+ kwrite +cervisia +tcl/Tk apps like tkgate tkcvs,...

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Eddy eddy.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jérôme, Xinerama is switched on with Xorg.conf. Have you tried deleting
 it and creating a fresh one, just in case something is switching it on?

 ** Summary changed:

 - Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, 
 Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver
 + Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, 
 Stellarium, skype, Google Earth, VLC crashes Xserver

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 Status in “nvidia-graphics-drivers” package in Ubuntu: New
 Status in “qt4-x11” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
 Status in “xorg” package in Ubuntu: New

 Bug description:
 I think this may be related to QT apps, as keepassx, skype also crash X when 
 started
 This is on maverick will all current updates.

 ProblemType: Bug
 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.10
 Package: speedcrunch 0.10.1-2
 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.35-22.33-generic 2.6.35.4
 Uname: Linux 2.6.35-22-generic x86_64
 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
 Architecture: amd64
 Date: Tue Sep 28 12:29:04 2010
 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429)
 ProcEnviron:
  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
  SHELL=/bin/bash
 SourcePackage: speedcrunch
 ---
 Architecture: amd64
 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.10
 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429)
 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
 Package: xorg 1:7.5+6ubuntu3
 PackageArchitecture: amd64
 ProcEnviron:
  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
  SHELL=/bin/bash
 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.35-22.33-generic 2.6.35.4
 Tags: maverick
 Uname: Linux 2.6.35-22-generic x86_64
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 Please uninstall them and test whether your problem still occurs.
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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-14 Thread Eddy
Same problem for me, I'm using maverick 10.10 with nvidia latest beta
drivers and xinerama. Every QT Apps crashes, driving me nuts. Goes away
when I unplug the second monitor and restart X Server. Tried downgrading
to the stable nvidia packages but no difference. Switching off
xinerama / unplugging the monitor resolves the issues.

I must add that my second monitor is also rotated 90 degrees. Will try
Kions fix in the mean time.

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Re: [Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-14 Thread Jérôme
I am the only one with a single monitor that have this issue? I can't find
why Xinerama maybe active, if no seond monitor is plug. Maybe that come from
the fact that my laptop is a dual video card system (sony vaio z12 : intel +
nvidia) ?

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Eddy eddy.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Same problem for me, I'm using maverick 10.10 with nvidia latest beta
 drivers and xinerama. Every QT Apps crashes, driving me nuts. Goes away
 when I unplug the second monitor and restart X Server. Tried downgrading
 to the stable nvidia packages but no difference. Switching off
 xinerama / unplugging the monitor resolves the issues.

 I must add that my second monitor is also rotated 90 degrees. Will try
 Kions fix in the mean time.

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 Bug description:
 I think this may be related to QT apps, as keepassx, skype also crash X
 when started
 This is on maverick will all current updates.

 ProblemType: Bug
 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.10
 Package: speedcrunch 0.10.1-2
 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.35-22.33-generic 2.6.35.4
 Uname: Linux 2.6.35-22-generic x86_64
 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
 Architecture: amd64
 Date: Tue Sep 28 12:29:04 2010
 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429)
 ProcEnviron:
  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
  SHELL=/bin/bash
 SourcePackage: speedcrunch
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 Architecture: amd64
 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.10
 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429)
 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
 Package: xorg 1:7.5+6ubuntu3
 PackageArchitecture: amd64
 ProcEnviron:
  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
  SHELL=/bin/bash
 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.35-22.33-generic 2.6.35.4
 Tags: maverick
 Uname: Linux 2.6.35-22-generic x86_64
 UnreportableReason: The drivers from nvidia.com are not supported by
 Ubuntu.  Please uninstall them and test whether your problem still occurs.
 UserGroups: adm admin cdrom dialout lpadmin plugdev sambashare video
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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-14 Thread Eddy
Jérôme, Xinerama is switched on with Xorg.conf. Have you tried deleting
it and creating a fresh one, just in case something is switching it on?

** Summary changed:

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Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver
+ Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, 
Stellarium, skype, Google Earth, VLC crashes Xserver

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-13 Thread Obi1Kenobi
I confess I'm new to this process (so no familiar with patching roadmap)
... but was wondering ... why is this bug still in New status ? Is
there still a doubt it is a bug ? If VLC crashing was deemed to be of
medium importance, surely X crashing should be thought as being ... high
?

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-12 Thread Laurent
Hi there.

I've got a 4 screens (2 quadro nvs 285) setup (2 twinview + xinerama)
I'm able to reproduce this by running emacs22-gtk (or emacs23-gtk). AFAIK 
emacs23-gtk is not linked to qt ! :-)

My workaround is to use lucid packages for xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg, 
xserver-xorg-input-evdev and nvidia.
It's kind of working with this workaround.
kinda because my X server freezes every weeks or so. The cursor gets stuck 
between the 2 twinview screens with X using 100% of a cpu. (have to kill -9 to 
restart...)

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-12 Thread alfille
Nomad42184 asked if the Xinerama problem is being  explored upstream?

Bug 6450599 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-
drivers/+bug/650599

I reported be experience with nVidia. They confirm the bug, but says
it's an Ubuntu-only problem and closed the bug report.

They claim that Arch-linux doesn't have the same issue.

My advice is to pester nVidia. 
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=44

I don't think they realise what a big deal this issue is.

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-12 Thread ExtremeMultiman
Since it happens even with nouveau drivers and old nvidia drivers and only in 
Xinerama that's probably  a problem of xinerama mode itself with some nvidia 
card instruction, not of nvidia binary drivers.
Using twinview is only a temprorary solution since some have dualhead on 
different GPUs or Trial Heads.

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Re: [Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-12 Thread MikeB
The cursor getting stuck between the two screens (using Xinerama for
me) and using 100% CPU was one of the main reasons I attempted to
upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10. Unfortunately that didn't work so well. :(


On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:35:28 -
Laurent 650...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 My workaround is to use lucid packages for xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg, 
 xserver-xorg-input-evdev and nvidia.
 It's kind of working with this workaround.
 kinda because my X server freezes every weeks or so. The cursor gets stuck 
 between the 2 twinview screens with X using 100% of a cpu. (have to kill -9 
 to restart...)
 


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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-12 Thread Jean-Paul Argudo
Same problem here, experienced today

DISPLAY=:0.1 xterm  ... was working, but I tried with firefox (instead
of xterm), since its my usage for 2nd screen (FF visible in all
desktops): crashed X

I then decided to not use screen1 anymore. Then in the morning, while I
was scrolling in FF helding the vertical bar, the mouse pointer got
stuck between the two screens (exactly as MikeB), X was 100% CPU. Had to
kill it remotely.

At lunch break, I xlock-ed my screen as allways, when back, the load
was 40+, with tons of kscreenlock spawned, one each minute since lock
screens mode are just changing each minute. Had to kill everything again
remotely.

Finaly, I ripped of any Screen1 or Device1 or Monitor1 in my xorg.conf,
then the 2nd monitor is completely inactive and unconsidered.

Since then, everything works fine, except my second monitor is off :/

Hope this helps.

I have some log files of everything here, I can send it,if it is of any
use.

Thanks,

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-12 Thread Mårten Björklund
Confirmed here aswell:

3 Monitors, latest nVidia proprietary driver, xinerama, 64-bit Ubuntu
10.10 (All updates)

I tried skype and konsole both make X crash and puts you back at the GDM
login screen

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-12 Thread kion
After spending some time working with my two monitors in TwinView mode,
i realized that it's not a solution - it's definitely not a replacement
for Xinerama, so... I decided to get that Xinerama mode that worked for
me (in 10.04) before i had updated to 10.10 back :)

As Laurent mentioned above, a possible workaround to fix that issue is
to rollback to old versions of some packages...

Actually, the only packages i reverted were: xorg, xserver-xorg,
xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-input-evdev, xserver-xorg-input-mouse,
xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse, xserver-xorg-video-nv (i have installed
versions from 10.04 via dpkg). Once reverted, those seem to work fine in
Xinerama mode and latest nVidia drivers included in 10.10 (that is,
260.10.06).

To get those packages, do the following:

Open terminal and execute the following command (will download those
packages into tmp dir and install them, you'll have to input root-pass
to confirm installation):

mkdir /tmp/xpackages  cd /tmp/xpackages  wget
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43485102/xorg_7.5%2B5ubuntu1_i386.deb
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43485099/xserver-
xorg_7.5%2B5ubuntu1_i386.deb http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52260944
/xserver-xorg-core_1.7.6-2ubuntu7.3_i386.deb
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42588308/xserver-xorg-input-
evdev_2.3.2-5ubuntu1_i386.deb http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36552692
/xserver-xorg-input-mouse_1.5.0-1_i386.deb
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/45024060/xserver-xorg-input-
vmmouse_12.6.5-4ubuntu2_i386.deb http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37545335
/xserver-xorg-video-nv_2.1.15-1ubuntu3_i386.deb  sudo dpkg -i *.deb

There's a drawback though: after installing those mentioned above
packages via dpkg lot of broken packages (a bit more than 30 in my
case) appears - namely, all xserver-xorg-input-* and all xserver-xorg-
video-*...

Here's how you fix that: open Synaptic and use Edit - Fix Broken
Packages feature, then apply changes - it will notify you it wants to
remove lot of packages - mostly those broken ones and probably few more,
but seems to not touch anything important (in my case it listed xbmc-
standalone only) - anyway, you may want to log those packages to re-
install them later.

Now, as you have removed broken packages, you must reinstall downloaded
xserver/xorg (from 10.04) again as they were removed too. Just run the
following command in console:

cd /tmp/xpackages  sudo dpkg -i *.deb

Now you may open Synaptic again and re-install those removed packages
(like xbmc, etc.) that you logged earlier.

After that you should have working and clean system! ;)

The last thing is: protect those old packages from auto-updating
(otherwise you'll get this X-crash-issue back).

In Synaptic, select each of those packages you have reverted and choose
Package - Lock Version for each of them.

Now you can update whenever you wish (when update-manager notifies you
about fresh updates) and all packages except those with locked versions
will be updated as usually.

That's it. Sorry if it looks messy, but it worked for me, so i decided
to share my solution.

Hope this helps someone! ;)

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-12 Thread kion
Ah, forgot to mention: after all those manipulations with packages
listed in my previous post, you have to reboot your workstation (just
loggin out and restarting x-server did not work for me, but after
restart everything works just fine) ;)

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-12 Thread Alejandro Cuervo
@Jonathan Thomas

There is definitely something going on with Xorg. So I am marking Xorg
again as an affected package.

There is a thread in ArchLinux that seems to indicate that this is a bug
in Xorg 1.9 (but it's still unconfirmed)

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=838311#p838311
http://pastebin.org/87390

** Also affects: xorg (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-11 Thread MikeB
10.10 with Nvidia, KDE and three montior setup using Xinerama crashes
for me as well. If I disable Xinerama I can get two monitors working
with Twinview instead, but three monitors always crashes for me.

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-11 Thread Alejandro Cuervo

Workarrounds for the meantime:

Dual monitors: Use twinview. There is no need to have xinerama enabled if you 
just have two monitors using twinview.
Besides with twinview you get hardware accelerated graphics.

Three monitors: Have two of them with twinview and one separate screen.
All of them with xinerama disabled.

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Re: [Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-11 Thread MikeB
Thanks for the tips, that is basically what I'm doing right now, but
with KDE4.5 I can't figure out how to actually start apps on the 3rd
monitor (the one not using twinview). Nothing displays on that monitor
except the mouse cursor. (no taskbar, right click menu or anything)

I'm almost thinking KDE doesn't support this.

Thanks.


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Alejandro Cuervo 3...@cuervo.net wrote:

 
 Workarrounds for the meantime:
 
 Dual monitors: Use twinview. There is no need to have xinerama enabled if you 
 just have two monitors using twinview.
 Besides with twinview you get hardware accelerated graphics.
 
 Three monitors: Have two of them with twinview and one separate screen.
 All of them with xinerama disabled.
 


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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-11 Thread Daniel Dadap
Just set the DISPLAY variable to your third display's X screen.

Example, if your third display is screen :0.1:

DISPLAY=:0.1 xterm

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Re: [Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-11 Thread MikeB
This works (xterm loads on the 3rd monitor), however KDE doesn't appear
to be running on the 3rd monitor, so there is essentially no window
manager, making it pretty useless. :(

From what I can obtain from Google, KDE4+ doesn't support separate X
displays like this. I attempted to use the script at the bottom of this
forum post:

http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66t=12180start=30

However it pops up a message saying KDE is already running on this (the
3rd) display, but I see no task bar or window decorations/title bars
whatsoever. 

On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:04:27 -
Daniel Dadap dda...@nvidia.com wrote:

 Just set the DISPLAY variable to your third display's X screen.
 
 Example, if your third display is screen :0.1:
 
 DISPLAY=:0.1 xterm
 


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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-11 Thread Obi1Kenobi

Maybe I am doing something wrong but ... in my nvidia-settings the TwinView 
option is grayed out. And always has been with all nvidia drivers I used. I 
have even tried to enable it manually on the xorg.conf file but again to no 
avail.

In my case I have 2 PCI-E video cards and each monitor is hooked to a
different card (rather than one card with dual connectors) - does that
have anything to do with TwinView being unavailable ? Is such a setup
not supported by TwinView ?

On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:25:44 -
Alejandro Cuervo 3...@cuervo.net wrote:


 Workarrounds for the meantime:

 Dual monitors: Use twinview. There is no need to have xinerama enabled if you 
 just have two monitors using twinview.

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-11 Thread Daniel Dadap
TwinView is only supported when two displays are used on one GPU.

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-11 Thread Obi1Kenobi

Thanks for clarifying that part Daniel.

Then Alejandro, unfortunately the workaround will not work for me and
TwinView is not a always **the** option for dual head. I must use
Xinerama.

It worked fine, no problem, albeit a little slow at (many) times with
Kubuntu 10.04 though ... I need this dual head functionality so badly
that I am a breadth away from putting back 10.04.

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-11 Thread nomad42184
I can also verify this issue.  My triple monitor setup using Xinerama
was working perfectly using the most recent Nvidia drivers under 10.04.
Upon the upgrade to 10.10, I started receiving the segfault when
starting X.  Disabling Xinerama allows me to run X, but is not a long
term solution.  Likewise, using TwinView is not an option for me as the
two 20.1 monitors connected to one video card are separated by a 30
monitor connected to the other (which requires full use of the other
video card for dual-link DVI).  The only real solution for creating a
single, uninterrupted, physical desktop is Xinerama.  Any idea if this
issue is currently being explored upstream?

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-11 Thread Ashley
Multi-monitor (one ext monitor connected to laptop) , Separate X
Screens, Xinerama Enabled.

X restarts when moving the mouse over the window.

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-11 Thread kion
Updated from 10.04 to 10.10.

Multi-monitor (namely, two monitors), Separate X Screens, Xinerama
Enabled. X restarts when moving the mouse over the window. No matter
what desktop environment is used - crashes in any case (i have tried
KDE/GNOME/Xfce/WindowMaker).

X does not crash, though, if I login using Safe Mode.

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-11 Thread Antoni Aloy
Same for me with 10.10, nvidia driver (latest) with Xinerama.
Applications like keepassx, vlc and skype crash X.

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[Bug 650539] Re: Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

2010-10-10 Thread Ashley
** Summary changed:

- Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, 
Stellarium, skype chrashes Xsever
+ Launching QT apps such as SpeedCrunch, keepassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, 
Stellarium, skype, VLC crashes Xserver

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