Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-11-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
We could consider letting people put their own preferred icon in the
bottom, pushing the Trash into the set of flowing icons. But that would
be a separate bug report.

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-11-17 Thread PresuntoRJ
Sorry, but there is still a BUTTON on Windows 7 for that, just not with an
icon on it... the right most portion of the start bar, past even the
clock/date, if you hover it show a "preview" of the desktop making the
windows transperant, if you click, you get them all minimized (i.e. the
desktop)

2011/11/17 John Lea <681...@bugs.launchpad.net>

> ** Tags added: udp
>
> ** Description changed:
>
>  Keyboard shortcut to minimise all windows required.
>
>  Description:
>
>  Ubuntu used to have a button on the bottom left corner of the screen
>  that minimised all windows.  This button was equivalent to a button that
>  used to exist in MS Windows prior to the advent of Vista/Windows 7.  In
>  Unity this button has been removed, however a 'minimise all' function is
>  still useful to allow users to go directly to their desktop.
>
>  Competitive analysis:
>
>  Minimise all windows functionality in other operating systems.
>
>  Windows 2000 & Windows XP: Button on desktop and "Windows Logo+D" key
> combination
>  Window 7: "Windows Logo + D" key combination only
>  OSX: "Option-Command-M" Key combination only
>
>  Change request:
>
> - 1) Implement a "Super+D" keyboard shortcut to minimise all windows.
> -
> - 2) Create a small application that when clicked minimises all windows.
> + - Create a small application that when clicked minimises all windows.
>  Users who would like a 'minimise all windows' button can then add this
> - application to their launcher.
> + application to their launcher.  This app will not be in the Launcher by
> + default.
>
> ** Changed in: unity
>   Status: Fix Released => Confirmed
>
> ** Changed in: ayatana-design
>   Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed
>
> ** Changed in: ayatana-design
>   Status: Fix Committed => Triaged
>
> ** Changed in: ayatana-design
> Assignee: (unassigned) => John Lea (johnlea)
>
> ** Summary changed:
>
> - Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut
> + Build "show me the desktop" mini-app that adds a show desktop button to
> Launcher
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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-11-17 Thread John Lea
** Tags added: udp

** Description changed:

  Keyboard shortcut to minimise all windows required.
  
  Description:
  
  Ubuntu used to have a button on the bottom left corner of the screen
  that minimised all windows.  This button was equivalent to a button that
  used to exist in MS Windows prior to the advent of Vista/Windows 7.  In
  Unity this button has been removed, however a 'minimise all' function is
  still useful to allow users to go directly to their desktop.
  
  Competitive analysis:
  
  Minimise all windows functionality in other operating systems.
  
  Windows 2000 & Windows XP: Button on desktop and "Windows Logo+D" key 
combination
  Window 7: "Windows Logo + D" key combination only
  OSX: "Option-Command-M" Key combination only
  
  Change request:
  
- 1) Implement a "Super+D" keyboard shortcut to minimise all windows.
- 
- 2) Create a small application that when clicked minimises all windows.
+ - Create a small application that when clicked minimises all windows.
  Users who would like a 'minimise all windows' button can then add this
- application to their launcher.
+ application to their launcher.  This app will not be in the Launcher by
+ default.

** Changed in: unity
   Status: Fix Released => Confirmed

** Changed in: ayatana-design
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed

** Changed in: ayatana-design
   Status: Fix Committed => Triaged

** Changed in: ayatana-design
 Assignee: (unassigned) => John Lea (johnlea)

** Summary changed:

- Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut
+ Build "show me the desktop" mini-app that adds a show desktop button to 
Launcher

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-11-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
status confirmed
 importance high

Yes, we will add a 'Show the desktop' launcher icon, which can be
removed or re-added from the dash just like any other app. It should
show as running by default if it's there.

John, is that being tracked in a different bug?

Mark


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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-11-09 Thread Dave Vree
This bug is not fixed.

The Alt-Tab mechanism to show desktop only works in Unity 3D.  It is not
present in Unity 2D.

The correct solution is a show desktop button in the launcher.  Make it
an option if you wish.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-10-31 Thread Pho3nix
Some button would be definitly useful!

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-10-17 Thread kribor
I can only agree with people saying this is really needed. Especially
for non-tech people who mostly use point and click to navigate around.
Placing it in the bottom left is a good idea.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-09-14 Thread philinux
>From a previous gnome users view I would prefer the Show Desktop to be
bottom left and put the trash icon back in the Task Bar.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-08-30 Thread Consumology
Not only for mouse users but especially for TOUCH users it is still not
fixed at all! #57 with a long press option for touch devices were really
perfect as it would keep the launcher more clean than an aditional icon
for revealing the desktop.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-08-24 Thread John Lea
For those who would like a mouse option, perhaps someone can write a
small application that performs this function.  A user could install
this application from the Software Center and pin it to the Launcher.
Clicking on this mini-utility would minimise all windows.

Any volunteers?

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-08-23 Thread PresuntoRJ
People are asking for a MOUSE option to get to the desktop...

Do not turn the blind eyes yet, cause the keyboard short cut or even the
alt-tab DO NOT ADDRESS the suers request.

It cannot be considered fixed yet.

2011/8/23 Andrea Azzarone <681...@bugs.launchpad.net>

> As this bug han been marked as "fixed release" by a designer because "a
> 'show desktop' option has been added to Alt-Tab in Oneiric", I think the
> bug should be marked as fixed release.
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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-08-23 Thread Andrea Azzarone
As this bug han been marked as "fixed release" by a designer because "a
'show desktop' option has been added to Alt-Tab in Oneiric", I think the
bug should be marked as fixed release.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-08-23 Thread mlaverdiere
I don't think that this report should be marked as "fixed release" since
the following part of the initial report has not been addressed yet

"2) Create a small application that when clicked minimises all windows.
Users who would like a 'minimise all windows' button can then add this
application to their launcher."

The new alt-tab implementation is a step in the right direction but is
not sufficient for users wanting to continue to use their mouse/trackpad
for dealing with windows, desktop. etc.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-08-23 Thread Andrea Azzarone
** Changed in: unity
   Status: Triaged => Fix Released

** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => Fix Released

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-08-23 Thread John Lea
@Omer

As a 'show desktop' option has been added to Alt-Tab in Oneiric, perhaps
this bug should be closed?  I've updated the Ayatana-design status to
fix released.

** Changed in: ayatana-design
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

** Changed in: ayatana-design
Milestone: later => None

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-08-22 Thread Omer Akram
super+d was already there before this bug report. now alt-tab also have
a show desktop item.

** Changed in: unity
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** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-08-21 Thread The Fiddler
Is it possible to add an icon to the bottom part of the launcher (just
below the trash icon)? That could work fine with the wmctrl hack.

Of course, the best solution would be to add this inside Unity itself
(just like the trash icon). It doesn't even need to be a full 48x48px
icon, even a 48x8 "bar" would be a large enough target, provided it
touches the bottom and left edges of the screen. Any idea if this is
possible?

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-07-30 Thread Omer Akram
now ctrl+tab(soon to be alt+tab) also have a show desktop option, if it
matters.

2011/7/30 Treviño (Marco Trevisan) :
> I was thinking to add a middle click support to the Viewport switcher
> icon. If middle clicked (and maybe long-pressed, for touch-devices) it
> would show the desktop.
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> Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu:
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> Bug description:
>  Keyboard shortcut to minimise all windows required.
>
>  Description:
>
>  Ubuntu used to have a button on the bottom left corner of the screen
>  that minimised all windows.  This button was equivalent to a button
>  that used to exist in MS Windows prior to the advent of Vista/Windows
>  7.  In Unity this button has been removed, however a 'minimise all'
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>  desktop.
>
>  Competitive analysis:
>
>  Minimise all windows functionality in other operating systems.
>
>  Windows 2000 & Windows XP: Button on desktop and "Windows Logo+D" key 
> combination
>  Window 7: "Windows Logo + D" key combination only
>  OSX: "Option-Command-M" Key combination only
>
>  Change request:
>
>  1) Implement a "Super+D" keyboard shortcut to minimise all windows.
>
>  2) Create a small application that when clicked minimises all windows.
>  Users who would like a 'minimise all windows' button can then add this
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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-07-29 Thread Marco Trevisan
I was thinking to add a middle click support to the Viewport switcher
icon. If middle clicked (and maybe long-pressed, for touch-devices) it
would show the desktop.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-06-06 Thread Brendan Donegan
Shouldn't this be Fix Released? This works as far as I can tell. Maybe
people having problems with it in specific situations should open
separate bugs, but it seems the feature itself is working.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-06-01 Thread Fabien Lusseau
What about a function in the windows title bar like the right click and
middle click on maximize ?

Like Right clicking on minimize minimize all windows on the current
desktop. Middle clicking minimize all windows of one application, and
left click the classic minimize the current window.

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-05-12 Thread PresuntoRJ
Agreed, could even be a right click somewhere... just don't go on braking
something for the sake of fixing something else... that would not be a real
fix

2011/5/12 funicorn <681...@bugs.launchpad.net>

> No, xdotool is useless. By pressing the button, it goes to the interface
> the same as that after pressing [super].
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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-05-12 Thread funicorn
No, xdotool is useless. By pressing the button, it goes to the interface
the same as that after pressing [super].

PS, it's a silly mistake to miss the great show-desktop button.

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-05-03 Thread PresuntoRJ
That is not what the work scpace button is supposed to do (i.e. showing the
workspaces)... fixing something by braking something else is not a solution

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-05-03 Thread alfalive
One click on workspace button show desktop. Doubleclick show overview.
Next click show desktop again. How is that?

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-05-02 Thread Eric Appleman
Unity is not perfect. If you want to complain about it and actually make
a difference, do it on the Ayatana mailing list or the Ubuntu forums.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-05-02 Thread arno_b
ok, so open bugs or give information about how to reproduce them, your
system, etc. There is no place here for subjective opinions.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-05-02 Thread andreturetta
What are you, a robot? Common, iv been helping and using ubuntu since
2004 and never seen such too much bugs in a distro and deficiency to use
the desktop. lets to bugs: i cant drag and grop easaly between windows,
my icons go away after logout, alt+f2 does not work properly, my update
manager and apt-get  stop working and my ubuntu-bug dont wanna report
any bug, saying that "Não foi possível determinar o pacote ou nome do
pacote fonte." In my point of view this is the space to report what
makes me sad about a system op.: and sad and deception is a bug for
me...

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2011-05-02 Thread arno_b
@andreturetta: Please, this place is not a forum but a place to track
bugs. Use forums to launch troll ;)

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2011-05-02 Thread andreturetta
Sad. Sad. Sad. Solution: go back to Gnome Classic or install Gnome-shell
;-) I said it before: forget abou unity: it is ugly, slow not
functional. And the community is not decided to help us.

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-05-02 Thread PresuntoRJ
I have not tried them all, but seems like what happened to me too... it used
to work on the betas, now, sometimes it does, some times it does not...
depends on what is going on, what applications are running, and even if they
are "restored" or "maximized", or which applications are opened together
(for instance, I worked with focused in a gnome-terminal if it has
libreoofice also running, but it does not work with the focus also in
gnome-terminal, but the other app is chromium-browser)... pretty bizaar.

2011/5/2 Michael-250 <681...@bugs.launchpad.net>

> Actually I couldn't believe that this is a real bug, because SUPER+D was
> working for me since natty alpha ? (can't remember which release it
> was).
>
> I have a fresh install of natty desktop (64bit). And right now SUPER+D is
> not working anymore. At least not for all windows.
> Open applications: Firefox, Evolution, Nautilus and vdr-sxfe (xine). Only
> vdr-sxfe window is minimized and maximized when pressing SUPER+D. All other
> windows don't care about SUPER+D.
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2011-05-02 Thread Michael-250
Actually I couldn't believe that this is a real bug, because SUPER+D was
working for me since natty alpha ? (can't remember which release it
was).

I have a fresh install of natty desktop (64bit). And right now SUPER+D is not 
working anymore. At least not for all windows.
Open applications: Firefox, Evolution, Nautilus and vdr-sxfe (xine). Only 
vdr-sxfe window is minimized and maximized when pressing SUPER+D. All other 
windows don't care about SUPER+D.

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-05-02 Thread PresuntoRJ
Hey, I have just checked that the Compiz binding is correct, that is, there
is a Super+D set to show the desktop... still its not working as it should.
And Alt+Tab was not set to Next Window, although, Alt+Shift+Tab was set to
Previous Window :-/

2011/5/2 Fabio T. Leitao 

> It used to work for me, but now it has stoped... kind of... Super+D
> sometimes change the running application (hides Terminal and Opens Chromium
> Browser) much like the Alt+TAB would, sometimes it hides every application
> (showing the desktop).
>
> By the way, Alt+TAB also stopped working, for good.
>
> I have not changed it on my compiz, so I believe as upgrade must have
> screwed with my settings somehow.
>
>
> 2011/5/2 arno_b <681...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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>> To set the shortcut = ccsm (compiz config manager) -> General options ->
>> shortcuts (4th tabs)
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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-05-02 Thread PresuntoRJ
It used to work for me, but now it has stoped... kind of... Super+D
sometimes change the running application (hides Terminal and Opens Chromium
Browser) much like the Alt+TAB would, sometimes it hides every application
(showing the desktop).

By the way, Alt+TAB also stopped working, for good.

I have not changed it on my compiz, so I believe as upgrade must have
screwed with my settings somehow.

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> To set the shortcut = ccsm (compiz config manager) -> General options ->
> shortcuts (4th tabs)
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2011-05-01 Thread arno_b
To set the shortcut = ccsm (compiz config manager) -> General options ->
shortcuts (4th tabs)

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-05-01 Thread Eric Appleman
Yet CTRL+ALT+D does.

O_o

How do I change this?

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-05-01 Thread Eric Appleman
Same. Super+D does not work.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-05-01 Thread Marcelo
Hello,

SUPER + D to show the desktop does not works to me. The others shortcuts
works but really I can not show the desktop with SUPER+D.

I Don't know why but does not works.

Ubuntu 11.04 64 bits final, all updates installed and Unity running as
default (unity --reset command apply)

Any idea please?

Thanks.-

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-04-18 Thread Michael
As per Saaz Rai and Marco Biscaro my settings were somehow set to Ctrl +
Alt + D in CCSM. Changing to Super + D works except it launches the
launcher every time I press it. Very annoying. This is on Natty from an
upgrade from Maverick.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-04-13 Thread Mohsin Falak
Super + D is working perfectly in the Natty Narwhal Beta.
what i would like to recommend was if we place the mouse pointer on the 
Ubuntu-button (for a second) it should make all windows transparent.
But, it would be better to place a small button on the extreme upper-left 
corner of the screen, near the Ubuntu-button. Which by clinking on it shows the 
desktop and by simply putting the pointer on (for a second) makes all the 
windows transparent. This will surely look better and would be more comfortable.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-29 Thread Consumology
When I'm not in tablet mode I use Super + D and it also is not working
every time at first - just like with the button workaround. Unlike with
the button workaround you can try it immediately for a second time and
then it always works. I use Natty since alpha 3 and I think it was not
there from the beginning but shortly after with some upgrade/update
(which ignited my wish for a button...)

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-29 Thread Marco Biscaro
Super + D is not working here too, but Ctrl + Alt + D (as in maverick)
is working fine.

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Seems to work here, are you fully up to date?

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-29 Thread Saaz Rai
While Super+D was working a while back, it has not been working past few
weeks.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-25 Thread Consumology
@mlaverdiere: Thank you for pointing me to that patch. Most of the time it is 
working instantly, if it does not you just have to wait till it stops blinking 
and then press it again - not a big deal compared to swiveling the screen 
around to get to the physical keyboard when in tablet mode... 
SImilar instructions are here: 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/29969/is-there-a-unity-equivalent-of-the-gnome-panel-show-desktop-applet

@Mark Shuttleworth: I am just a copy-paste ex-windows-user, I had no idea that 
this function seems to be so difficult to implement. If it will be there in 
11.10 I can live with the above patch (and still hope for a plugin...). 
Using Tablet PCs since 2005 and switching from Windows exactly one year ago I 
just wanna point out that Ubuntu with Unity is really great for Tablet PCs 
already. All I am missing is that button and a native virtual keyboard 
integration. 11.04 is great stuff!

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-24 Thread mlaverdiere
For those like Consumology who need a button to show the desktop, here's
a dirty and imperfect workaround , while we wait for the real thing (...
in Oneiric):

1.  Install xdotool (apt-get install xdotool) - this is a utility to
fake keyboard/mouse input, window management, and more

2.  Create a launcher, with wahtever name ("show desktop "should do the
job!) with this command (this will fake the same as super+d on the
keyboard):  xdotool :  xdotool key super+d super

3.  Place this launcher on the Unity launcher bar.

It works... most of the time, with the caveat that you can't toggle
quickly between desktop and windows/apps, since once you click on the
launcher, you have to wait for the "glowing" effect to stop before you
can reclick on it...  Also, it may sometimes open the Ubuntu menu.  Any
improvement suggestion is welcomed.

Bottom line, if you don't use a tablet/touchscreen device, you better
rely on the Compiz tweak suggested above and use a screen corner...

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
 tablets are not a Natty priority, I'm afraid. I've outlined how
this could be achieved, a patch would be welcome, otherwise, give us
another cycle.

Mark

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-22 Thread Consumology
Mmmh, I'm running 11.04 on a Tablet PC and this is really a key
feature for me, as I use the Desktop as a folder. I need something I can
touch with a finger, otherwise I have to go back to DockbarX and
simulate Unity which were really a pitty...

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-19 Thread areteichi
@mlaverdiere

Thanks for the input! I'm now doing the same. I guess this will do until
we get a proper solution.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-19 Thread mlaverdiere
Thanks Mark for providing these clarifications.  It helps to understand
how this issue is handled "up there".

So far, using the bottom left corner works great and appears natural,
even if it's the same spot as the trash can on launcher.

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-19 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
We could make that an FAQ, it's a neat solution to the problem. I think
hot corners that change focus are risky at this stage for Natty, but see
how you get on and if it works well we can consider it for Oneiric.

The obvious "mouse only" solution would be something in the launcher. We
haven't done that because launcher slots are precious, but we could test
that too, and a patch for that in a PPA would be most welcome.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-19 Thread mlaverdiere
OK, using compizconfig-settings-manager (available via apt-get), the
solution (well, workaround...) is quite easy.  It's possible to assign a
screen side/corner to the "show desktop" function, the same way as the
super-d key combinations is.  So, it's quite easy to use the mouse to
clear all windows and get to the desktop (and vice-versa).   There's
some extra Compiz plugins (also available via apt-get) to further tweak
the effects, etc.

For more info, see:  http://wiki.compiz.org/GeneralOptions

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-19 Thread mlaverdiere
@Mark:  You know, relying on alt-shift-tab instead of super-D is not
really a satisfying option for users who manage things with mouse,
instead of keyboard...

Now, I'm still searching for a poor man's show me desktop button/mouse
gesture while waiting for the real thing to appear some day in
Ubuntu/Unity...  No one knows if we could use one of the Compiz
settings/plugins to achieve this, with a screen corner?  I've looked at
this but found nothing so far.

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-19 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
If someone has the ability to whip up a patch to insert "the desktop" at
the start of the alt-tab queue, so alt-shift-tab gets you there, the
patch would be welcome.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-18 Thread mlaverdiere
So it seems that we'll have to wait for Oneiric...  I do like
Natty/Unity so far, but I fear that without the inclusion of some basic
utilities/features (show desktop is one of them  IMHO), many users (&
reviewers!) will be turned off...

Anyway, while waiting for Oneiric, am I right thinking that there's a
possibility for a wise user to  create a launcher pointing to script
triggering the same process as Super-D does, then placing it on Unity
bar, to have a custom show me desktop button?  I'll investigate this and
come back with a solution if I find one, but in the meantime, all
suggestions are welcomed.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-18 Thread Paul Sladen
** Changed in: ayatana-design
Milestone: None => later

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-18 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Joric, thanks for the comments. Super-D should work for you, and we will
add a more visible way to do this in Oneiric. Suggestions welcome on the
Ayatana list.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-18 Thread Joris Van den Bossche
Hello,

I'm not a developer, but I'm using ubuntu for almost 5 years and I was
very excited about the forthcoming new release with Unity, so I decided
not to wait (and to contribute a very little bit) by testing it.

And after a few days, one of my main problems/frustrations is indeed the 
missing of a 'show desktop'/'minimize all'- button, as outlined above. I am 
also user of the desktop for storing recent files , something I find very 
handy, because, till now, you could very quickly see and access them.
I know there is already a shortcut with super-D, but I think that for a lot 
regular users you cannot rely on keyboard-shortcuts only, but that you also 
have to have a button-alternative. 

And maybe not really on topic, but to come back on the last post of
mlaverdiere: I also experienced the same. I tried intuitively to click
on the icon of an app in the sidebar to minimise it when that app was
the active app. I noticed it didn't work like that, but that was what I
intuitively thought and tried.

Best regards,
Joris

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-11 Thread mlaverdiere
Maybe it's not really the same problem/issue, but what I do miss in
Natty (Alpha 3 + daily builds) is the possibility to click on the app.
icon on the Unity launcher bar to minimize the app., not only to
start/restore it.  This is standard behaviour on other desktops (at
least on KDE, XFCE, Windows - don't know for Mac), and I think this
should be implemented as well on Natty/Unity.  I'm considering opening
an other bug/whishlist report if necessary for this.

(That being said, having the "show/restore desktop button" integrated in
Natty/Unity would be the priority for me!)

Thanks.

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-09 Thread Claire Newman
I agree 100% with Xavier.

Valeryan_24 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In my case, I use very often and a lot desktop, as a desktop IRL, to
> store temporarily lots of files and open them (to read, print...) -
> downloads from Firefox, quick work on file from USB to send by mail...
>
> So I frequently need to switch on desktop to manage them.
>
> Of course you can access to deskto via "Place" menu or Nautilus or Dash
> (and put it as a favorite folder), or by the virtual desktop switcher if
> you have one of the 4 still empty, but it needs at least 2 clicks, and
> it is very useful to have possibility to minimize all windows in only 1
> quick click : before on Gnome panel there was a "show desktop" button,
> which was perfect for that.
>
> So IMHO the best would be to have ability to add an icon launcher in
> Unity dock which would do exactly the same.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Xavier
>
> On 09/03/2011 17:13, Alex Launi wrote:
>> I'm sorry but could someone please provide a defense of this
>> functionality in the first place? Why is it useful to get to the
>> desktop? Doesn't the dash pretty much facilitate any reason you'd have
>> for getting to the desktop?

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-09 Thread Paul Sladen
Alex: A toggable "Show me Desktop" button allows file access without
losing working state.  Alt-tabbing or opening a new copy of the file-
manager changes state.  Manual minimisation by individually focusing and
minimising one window at a time (note, currently two steps under Unity)
all twenty windows reverses the order of the stack and requires another
twenty clicks to even attempt to undo.

By comparision, in GNOME v2 Panel it was possibly to address a
particular window (such as the Terminal containing your email) by its
positional location on the task bar (for me it was always the first
one).  That is no longer the case, the only predictable axis remaining
under Unity is the vertical stack z-ordering.

My scratch space for files used to be the Desktop.  I could save stuff
there, I could easily visit it (and return).  Under Unity getting the
files "on the Desktop" requires:

  1. Top-left (open the Launcher)
  2. Open Nautilus by either the File Manager or Trash buttons
  3. Find and click on "desktop"

The icons on these screen are not laid out like the desktop;  the
background colour is wrong.  The window size and position is different
every time.  Type a-head does not work because the focus is still left
on the word "Desktop" in the left-hand listbox.

Predictable.  Fast.  Non-intrusive.

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
No, we added back the desktop file store in 11.04 because the Dash file
management pieces were removed.

Super-D is the key.

Mark

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-09 Thread Valeryan_24
Hello,

In my case, I use very often and a lot desktop, as a desktop IRL, to 
store temporarily lots of files and open them (to read, print...) - 
downloads from Firefox, quick work on file from USB to send by mail...

So I frequently need to switch on desktop to manage them.

Of course you can access to deskto via "Place" menu or Nautilus or Dash 
(and put it as a favorite folder), or by the virtual desktop switcher if 
you have one of the 4 still empty, but it needs at least 2 clicks, and 
it is very useful to have possibility to minimize all windows in only 1 
quick click : before on Gnome panel there was a "show desktop" button, 
which was perfect for that.

So IMHO the best would be to have ability to add an icon launcher in 
Unity dock which would do exactly the same.

Best regards,

Xavier

On 09/03/2011 17:13, Alex Launi wrote:
> I'm sorry but could someone please provide a defense of this
> functionality in the first place? Why is it useful to get to the
> desktop? Doesn't the dash pretty much facilitate any reason you'd have
> for getting to the desktop?

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Re: [Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-06 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Thanks Mario, those are useful pointers.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-05 Thread Mario Vukelic
Sorry, forgot to add: once discovered, the functionality of this area is
actually quite nice. Hovering on it makes all windows transparent,
allowing a quick peek. Clicking it performs the well known "show
desktop", with a second click restoring the windows.

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-05 Thread Mario Vukelic
In case it makes a difference for the design team, I want to add that
the initial description is incorrect wrt to Windows 7. You cannot just
use '"Windows Logo + D" key combination only' to show the desktop. There
is still a (difficult to discover) clickable area in the bottom-right of
the screen - I don't call it a "button" because it's not recognizable as
such. See, e.g., http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/01/14/how-to-show-
desktop-in-windows-7-quick-launch-alternative/

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-01 Thread Brian Murray
** Changed in: unity
   Status: Incomplete => Confirmed

** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Confirmed

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-03-01 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
It's really quite important that we have a clean "get me to the desktop"
option, please John!

** Changed in: ayatana-design
   Status: Incomplete => Confirmed

** Changed in: ayatana-design
   Importance: Wishlist => High

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[Bug 681348] Re: Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

2011-02-06 Thread Valeryan_24
** Summary changed:

- Add "show me the desktop" keyboard shortcut
+ Add "show me the desktop" keyboard or Unity dock shortcut

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