[Bug 68274] Re: please start ssh for single user mode

2008-03-07 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
I don't see how your reply has anything to do with the bug report.

Servers reachable via network only have a huge problem, if they are booted into 
"single" user mode.
Without any console or noone near a console such a server is dead and the only 
way to "fix" the problem
would be a hard power cycle. but there is an easy fix: start ssh daemon.

strength of root passwords, sudo and all that are not part of the problem. my 
personal preference is using ssh
rsa keys with smart cards only, yours might be different. the "with nologin 
file" is a suggestion from my side,
su that the result is a "single user" mode - only root can login. if you want a 
different security policy, that is
possible, but outside the scope of this bug report.

the runlevel assignment seems to be hard coded (postinst always runs 
update-rc.d with fixed parameters), so
this is not configureable and the default bites a number of uses with a valid 
use case. thus I suggest a change.

Regards, Andreas

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[Bug 68274] Re: please start ssh for single user mode

2008-03-07 Thread Dustin Kirkland
Hmm, I'd be very surprised to boot a machine into "single" user mode and
find that I've opened myself up to remote ssh login's, giving
potentially other people (not me in front of the console) remote access
to the system.  Single user mode is generally intended for infrequent
maintenance, and traditionally by the administrator in front of the
console.

I have two suggestions...

1) Look into some of the remote console hardware solutions or
hypervisors for virtual machines.

2) If remote ssh access is truly required in single user mode, I'd say
at the very least you'd want to specify that with an *additional* kernel
parameter -> "single ssh".  I really don't think you'd want to open up
every user who thinks he's in single-user mode to ssh access from
outside.

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[Bug 68274] Re: please start ssh for single user mode

2008-02-29 Thread Colin Watson
Please do not reject bugs unless you are a developer.

** Changed in: openssh (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid => Confirmed

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[Bug 68274] Re: please start ssh for single user mode

2008-02-26 Thread Loye Young
Requested is against security best practices. A local sys admin who
WANTS this change has a simple work around available.

** Changed in: openssh (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

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[Bug 68274] Re: please start ssh for single user mode

2008-02-26 Thread Loye Young
@Andreas,

As I said above, the single user mode is expressly designed to prohibit
ssh access, and for good reason. Dustin's intuitive answer is right on
target.

However, if you want to have ssh access in single user mode for your own
installation, simply execute this command and reboot:

$ sudo echo /etc/init.d/ssh >> /etc/rc.local

This is not a bug, and it should be closed.

Happy Trails,

Loye Young
Isaac & Young Computer Company
Laredo, Texas
http://www.iycc.biz

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[Bug 68274] Re: please start ssh for single user mode

2008-02-07 Thread Loye Young
This one should be closed as invalid.

The idea behind the single parameter is to prevent just the sort of
thing requested here by requiring the machine to run in single-user
mode.

Better practice in the situation described would be to set a
sufficiently complex root password for the server as part of setup. The
use of sudo and nologin is to prevent the casual user from logging in as
root inadvertently and improvidently. In the situation described, that's
not an issue.

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[Bug 68274] Re: please start ssh for single user mode

2006-12-11 Thread Colin Watson
I think we may get this with the initscript reorganisations in feisty.

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   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist
   Status: Unconfirmed => Confirmed

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