[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
Launchpad has imported 6 comments from the remote bug at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126725. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2006-05-04T12:38:31+00:00 Axel Braun wrote: Version: 1.5 (using KDE 3.5.2 Level a , SUSE 10.0 UNSUPPORTED) Compiler: Target: i586-suse-linux OS:Linux (i686) release 2.6.13-15.8-default I was looking for a type trainer, so I had a look at ktouch. I found it somewhat difficult to get started with it. maybe you could take the following points in into consideration: initial start: The first session should be loaded by default. help manual: - screenshots unuseable - very technical - something like 'how to get it running without reading the instructions' is missing What the user wants: Open the program, start a training session. So if the first session is not loaded by default, the file-open dialog should at least point to the right directory (I assume this is /opt/kde3/share/apps/ktouch/). Now, in there are some *.ktouch.xml files. But the manual decribes that the lession files end on .ktouch - this should be synchronized Next the user may ask: So, what file do I have to select? Proposal: create subdirectories per language. More, comparing it with commercial products, a brief description of what shall be learned in each section/line could also help to find a decision. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu/+bug/72663/comments/0 On 2006-09-01T19:50:45+00:00 Andrewz wrote: There are multiple requests in this issue, so this issue should be broken into multiple issues. (However, I don't have the permissions to do that.) To add to the part about starting a training session/lecture: - The File-Open Lecture opens to the home directory, but it should open to a directory where there's a high probability of finding lectures--e.g., /usr/share/apps/ktouch/. - The File-Open Lecture and Training-Default Lectures should visually be near each other. Maybe you could put the Default Lectures under Open Lecture? Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu/+bug/72663/comments/1 On 2007-03-17T21:44:22+00:00 PetrB wrote: What can I do move this bug towards completion? Specially the The File-Open Lecture opens to the home directory, ... annoys me. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu/+bug/72663/comments/4 On 2007-07-18T07:30:07+00:00 René du R. Sacramento wrote: Braun said it very clear and synthetic: What the user wants: Open the program, start a training session. Open lecture.. or default lectures and keyboard layouts are necessary to do this currently. These three are in separate menus, not very intuitively placed or organized. I thought about an new organization in 4 menus: File (it could also be called Lecture), Stats, Settings, Help (names obviously open to be improved) . I don't see an reason for an file menu in ktouch. If it is not prohibited, you can exclude this menu and make 4 menus: Lectures, Stats, Settings, Help (names obviously open to be improved). If it is, then call the Lectures menu of File. * Under the File/Lecture menu go: Open default lecture, Open lecture from a file..., Edit current lecture, Edit lecture from a file... (Instead of open the word load can be used. I think it is a bit more adequate, but not much difference) * Under the Stats go: Start new session, Pause session and Lecture Statistics. (Re-start session could be an more appropriate name for Start new session, as far as I perceived how it works, but I can be wrong) * The settings menu would remain essentially the same, with only the addition of Edit color scheme.../Custom color scheme... inside Color Schemes * The help menu remains the same In addition to that, while we are at improving usability, the lessions and keyboards layouts should be organized in the menus by language, each one with an country flag attached to it. It will be more and more important as the number of keyboard and lessions shipped with the program grow as I hope it will do. So, to select an lesson for me in this new organization I would (hopefully) go: File Open Default Lecture Brazilian Portuguese QUERTY ABNT2 (auto-generated)/br-nativo (defaut lesson)/br-nativo (combo/speed training)/dvorak-br/whatever , for example. The lecture should automatically load the correct keyboard layout, but leave the possibility to the user change this as it is now. I will fill an new bug about this. As for one point that others said, the
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
Hello everyone I fixed this annoying bug: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=ktouch.gita=commith=8b10ade17f0b493206c12d55488cdf9b28e3efef It will be part of KDE 4.7. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdeedu in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 Title: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
** Changed in: kdeedu Importance: Unknown = Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 Title: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
As of today, it's still the same thing. The lectures are still hidden on /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktouch, which makes the application very user unfriendly, as hsherba stated. Which is odd, since they should probably be looking for an user friendly experience. On the other hand, what naught101 said is wrong, those are only the first levels. And yes, the program does default to some text, but that same text makes it clear in the end that you should use the lectures, and when the user clicks to open one he gets to stare at his own home folder. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 Title: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
It seems like this bug is fixed. Is anyone still having this problem? -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
By fixed I mean that it defaults to a lecture, so you don't have to open one to get started typing. If this bug is about it opening the home folder when going to open a lecture, that still happens. (The comment system could really use to let you edit your comments--sorry for the two in a row). -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdeedu in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
This is a USER UNfriendly app. The use should be obvious the lectures. This why KTOUCH is NOT very well received and less used? -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
Not to mention that the only english lecture is horrible - who types d d d d kd k k k? less spaces would be good, and moving up to real words once there are enough letters... -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdeedu in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
** Changed in: kdeedu Status: New = Confirmed -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
** Changed in: kdeedu (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdeedu in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
** Description changed: Binary package hint: ktouch After adding this package-which I have used before-KTouch made it a mystery to find and open a lecture in order to begin to learn to type. It was unclear if I should start a new session under the training dropdown or open a lecture under the file dropdown. After complaining to my boyfriend, he took control, dropping to the command line and doing some magic that the average user would not be able to understand. In his words, he issued the command dpkg -L ktouch to list all the files in the ktouch package. He discovered some xml files under /usr/share/apps/ktouch which *happened* to be the so- called lecture files. This is way too hard to find. + + Update: with KDE4 the path for lesson files is now + /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktouch -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
nah, I was confused at first, when I tried to open a lecture. but you click training and select a lecture. On 2/4/09, AndrewHarvey4 andrew.harvey4+launch...@gmail.com wrote: When I go to open lecture, it defaults to HomeDocuments, but there are no lecture files. I went to /usr/share/apps/ but there is no ktouch folder. This is only really a bug if there are meant to be lecture files. -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in educational apps from the official KDE release: New Status in kdeedu source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: ktouch After adding this package-which I have used before-KTouch made it a mystery to find and open a lecture in order to begin to learn to type. It was unclear if I should start a new session under the training dropdown or open a lecture under the file dropdown. After complaining to my boyfriend, he took control, dropping to the command line and doing some magic that the average user would not be able to understand. In his words, he issued the command dpkg -L ktouch to list all the files in the ktouch package. He discovered some xml files under /usr/share/apps/ktouch which *happened* to be the so-called lecture files. This is way too hard to find. -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdeedu in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
When I go to open lecture, it defaults to HomeDocuments, but there are no lecture files. I went to /usr/share/apps/ but there is no ktouch folder. This is only really a bug if there are meant to be lecture files. -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdeedu in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
Yeah took me a couple mins myself it should be in front of you, abit of googling revealed Click Training on the Menu bar, and click Default Lectures menu which reveals a list of lectures you can do. -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
** Changed in: kdeedu Importance: Undecided = Unknown Bugwatch: None = KDE Bug Tracking System #126725 Status: New = Unknown -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is subscribed to kdeedu in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
** Changed in: kdeedu Status: Unknown = New -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is subscribed to kdeedu in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
Someone please forward the report to http://bugs.kde.org and add the URL to KDE Educational Applications (clicking the button left of the Name and Icon). ** Also affects: kdeedu Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
Yeah, still no easier to find. ** Changed in: kdeedu (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
Is this still the case in KDE 4? ** Changed in: kdeedu (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Incomplete -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72663 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 72663] Re: Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate
I agree. KTouch is in fact unclear on where and how to really start from a newer users perspective, and even mine at first. ** Changed in: kdeedu (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- Ktouch's lectures are hidden away and took a bit of time (and an expert Linux guru) to locate https://launchpad.net/bugs/72663 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
