[Bug 82312] Re: [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go)
@ Sitsofe I think you're doing (and have been doing) a good job - you will always have some people overreact or not understand you, however your advice was valid and given in a nice way. @ Simon We all learn by making mistakes (at the beginning). Actually, we all learn *if* we accept we can make mistake and listen to other's advices without overreacting you will discourage people from writing bugreports entirely. Launchpad and bug reporting have been new to most of us at the beginning. At the time, we also had our Sitsofe helping us like he just helped you, and thanks to them we have learnt to use it better - that's why you too have been able to find helpful and relevant information here. To summarize what you can do if you happen to be in the same situation again : open a new bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug and fill it will all the information you got, then you can write a nice comment here I've got a different problem but it might be related, could you please see add here a link towards your bug report and tell me if it's a duplicate?. Then edit your bug description with a link to this bug, explaining that it could be related to it. This way you don't just get help, you also will _provide_ help for the ones with the same problem you have (many people might be affected by the bug you encounter), because it would be hard for them to find the solution hidden in a bug concerning another problem :) ** Summary changed: - [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) + [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) without UseDisplayDevice DFP ** Description changed: + Binary package hint: nvidia-glx + I have a Dell Latitude C840 with an nVidia graphics card (and the nVidia driver). I upgraded from Edgy to Feisty just yesterday (28 Jan 2007). A few minor problems with the upgrade came up and it seems like I managed to fix them OK. I rebooted and found that my X terminal is completely blank. I got the login-ready-sound and thought I would go on and enter my login name and password, then the harddrive started working and the login- sound sounded. Everything seem to work fine except I can't see a thing. - On Edgy I had beryl installed after a few unsuccessful attempts (also - tried compiz). I had it working well though. Perhaps this had something - to do with it. + Adding + Option UseDisplayDevice DFP + to the Screen section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf solves the problem -- [nvidia-glx] Using nvidia-glx driver, X is blank after install or upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) without option UseDisplayDevice DFP https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/82312 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 82312] Re: [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) without UseDisplayDevice DFP
The bug is reproducible and the fix too. It happens on scratch Feisty install and upgrades from Edgy as well. It is not linked to Beryl/Compiz. ** Changed in: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) Status: Needs Info = Confirmed -- [nvidia-glx] Using nvidia-glx driver, X is blank after install or upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) without option UseDisplayDevice DFP https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/82312 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 82312] Re: [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go)
Simon: The comment was not aimed at you. I don't expect people to be psychic and magically know that they can get faster (and sometimes better) responses without an endless back and for (which can last days, months or even years on bug reports) elsewhere depending on their problem. I don't expect them to already know that the system works better if a new bug is marked as duplicate of an old bug if it turns out to already be a known issue (Why? Because if it turns out that the bug was new and not related then you haven't confused the original bug with unrelated information). I don't expect them to have already scanned through the entirety of the BinaryDriver help page (including the disjointed Troubleshooting section at the bottom which most people won't get to due to its buried nature). You can't expect people to do any of these things unless you tell them about them first. I thought I was informing people - your comment clearly tells me that I was wrong. All I was doing was creating angst. I don't want to discourage people from reporting new bugs when they are using the Ubuntu provided software. I want people to get the fastest and most appropriate resolution to their problem (and bug reports are not always the best way to do that). I want Ubuntu to improve in the long run and for it to be supportable. I don't want people to add a comment and then never have a reply (and then in turn become frustrated) simply because they commented in the wrong place. I don't want bugs that are so big that people no longer know what they are about and where the solutions are no longer visible. I don't want to chase away the people who look at bug reports and take the time to reply to them by frustrating them with bugs that contain dozens of issues. I don't want the bustling river that is launchpad to turn into a becalmed lake but nor do I want it to burst it banks and turn the surrounding land into marsh. (A brief aside. Since you have working TV-Out do you think you can help the people over in Bug #109703 solve their int10 issue?) Like you I am just another Ubuntu user. I have been spending time looking at NVIDIA binary driver bug reports (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=nvidia+glxorderby=-date_last_updated ) trying to make some of them useful and ensure they have the information they need, trying to check whether the original reporter's issue is clear and has been resolved and trying to adjust titles to try and maximise the information they provide. Given your reaction, I think we might be better off if I scaled back this work (or stopped entirely) as it seems to be counter-productive. Flabdablet: I think the best thing would be to see if NVIDIA can be contacted and helped to improve their display detection so that the right thing is more likely to happen out of the box for more people. I don't know how feasible or easy this is to do though. -- [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/82312 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 82312] Re: [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go)
I upgraded my old laptop from edgy to feisty yesterday, I only use this laptop to view videos on my TV and the upgrade broke this completely, I cannot get my TV-out to work anymore using the nvidia glx drivers. the graphics hardware is the GeForce4 420 Go the relevant sections of my xorg.conf: Section Device identifier nvidia0 boardname NVIDIA GeForce FX (generic) busid PCI:1:0:0 driver nvidia screen 0 vendorname NVIDIA Option ConnectedMonitor DFP EndSection Section Monitor identifier Monitor0 vendorname generic 1400x1050 lcd modelname jewel laptop HorizSync 31.0-75.0 VertRefresh 59 gamma 0.76 EndSection Section Device Identifier nvidia1 Driver nvidia Screen 1 # Edit the BusID with the location of your graphics card BusId PCI:1:0:0 Option ConnectedMonitor TV EndSection Section Monitor Identifier tv0 VendorName Generic ModelName TV 16:9 HorizSync 30-50 VertRefresh 60 DisplaySize 295 167 # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device nvidia0 Monitor Monitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display depth 24 modes 1400x1050 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Device nvidia1 Monitor tv0 Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 800x600 640x480 EndSubsection DefaultDepth 24 EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen 0 Screen0 Screen 1 Screen1 RightOf Screen0 InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection Some errors in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (--) NVIDIA(1): Connected display device(s) on GeForce4 420 Go at PCI:1:0:0: (--) NVIDIA(1): Nvidia Default Flat Panel (DFP-0) (--) NVIDIA(1): Nvidia Default Flat Panel (DFP-0): 224.0 MHz maximum pixel (--) NVIDIA(1): clock (--) NVIDIA(1): Nvidia Default Flat Panel (DFP-0): Internal Dual Link LVDS (EE) NVIDIA(1): Unable to find available Display Devices for screen 1. I guess I will have to try an older version of the nvidia driver to see if that fixes it... -- [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/82312 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 82312] Re: [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go)
I can't get 8776 to compile on the feisty kernel and 9629 doesn't fix the problem. Could it be a kernel-nvidiamodule interaction problem? Anyway, I'll be reverting to edgy on this machine :-( -- [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/82312 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 82312] Re: [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go)
I think the problem is that the current nvidia drivers interact with x.org in strange and wondrous ways, and work more things out for themselves than they used to, and take less notice of some bits of xorg.conf than they used to. So before you give up on Feisty: start with the stock Feisty nvidia-glx package, back up your present xorg.conf, then replace the bits you've posted here with this fairly minimal set: Section Device identifier Default Device driver nvidia EndSection Section Monitor identifier Default Monitor HorizSync 31.0-75.0 VertRefresh 59 gamma 0.76 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Default Device Monitor Default Monitor DefaultDepth 24 Option Nologo true Option RenderAccel true Option UseEvents true Option ConnectedMonitor dfp, crt, tv Option UseDisplayDevice dfp SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1400x1050 1280x1024 1280x960 1024x768 800x600 640x512 640x480 512x384 400x300 320x240 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Default Screen 0 0 InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection That should get you up and running with a nice accelerated display on your flat panel. Once you have that, run the command nvidia-settings in a terminal, and mess about with the GUI. You should see all three display devices (DFP, CRT and TV) represented as boxes in the GUI under X Server Display Configuration. The CRT and TV will show as disabled but they will at least be there, and there are a bunch of options that let you choose what to do with them. Use the GUI to generate a new x.org config file (don't save it over the existing one), then edit the new file to put back the Options listed above, then try backing up the working one and using the new one instead. -- [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/82312 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 82312] Re: [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go)
thanks, the line Option ConnectedMonitor dfp, crt, tv did help eventually! After I got a working single monitor display going and this line in the Screen section, the nvidia-settings picked it up and configured it (first with the screens in the wrong order, causing the login screen to appear on the TV, but that's quite easily fixed) After some cleaning up, it now looks like this: Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen 0 Screen0 RightOf Screen1 Screen 1 Screen1 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer EndSection Section Monitor # HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid Identifier Monitor1 VendorName Unknown ModelName Nvidia Default Flat Panel HorizSync 29.0 - 65.0 VertRefresh 0.0 - 60.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Monitor # HorizSync source: builtin, VertRefresh source: builtin Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Unknown ModelName TV-0 HorizSync 28.0 - 33.0 VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation BoardName GeForce4 420 Go BusID PCI:1:0:0 Screen 0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard1 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation BoardName GeForce4 420 Go BusID PCI:1:0:0 Screen 1 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 MonitorMonitor1 DefaultDepth24 Option metamodes DFP: 1400x1050 +0+0 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1400x1050 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Device Videocard1 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth24 Option metamodes TV: 800x600 +0+0 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection -- [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/82312 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 82312] Re: [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go)
A warning to potential future posters: Please do not post new queries saying My X is broken please help me fix it to this bug report. The correct place to ask these types of queries is over at https://answers.launchpad.net/ , http://ubuntuforums.org/ and the other means described on http://www.ubuntu.com/support/communitysupport . Please read also read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia - it has links to bug reports talking explictly covering certain common problems. If your issue really isn't covered then please consider filing a new bug report rather than extending this one if you are looking for something more than a quick fix. -- [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/82312 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 82312] Re: [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go)
Hey, nice warning, but I thought the problem was related and relevant, turned out it wasn't and as a side effect, I got a fix. If you discourage people from posting additional information (which may not be relevant, but not everyone can tell), you will discourage people from writing bugreports entirely. I'm sorry for disturbing the peace in the quiet backwaters of launchpad, nevermind me! -- [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/82312 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 82312] Re: [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go)
Sitsofe, is there anything you think can be done about this, beyond possible inclusion of a warning about known issues on upgrade and a link to the BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia page in the package description? -- [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/82312 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 82312] Re: [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go)
Sorry for taking so long to reply. Unfortunately my laptop broke 2 weeks ago. So I am working on a PC now. I will check if this solves the problem once I get the laptop to work again, if that ever happens. Thanks. -- [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/82312 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 82312] Re: [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go)
** Summary changed: - [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop) + [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) -- [nvidia-glx] X is blank after upgrade (laptop/Geforce Go) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/82312 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
