[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-03 Thread Ashish Kulkarni
Ok, I rebuilt the kernel on AMD64 without USB_SUSPEND, and everything
works OK (mine is not a scanner problem, but another device altogether
-- see bug #110806). If someone wants it, I will post it.

Of course, as I didn't build the linux-restricted-modules package (which
requires 150MB of source download!!) my nVidia driver stopped working,
which is OK as I can live with the open source driver.

If someone DOES want that, you can follow the instructions at

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild#head-
12a476b24f14942a9ac7d38bb3c0a2c1edd1bde7

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-03 Thread fishor
Hallo all.
At the bottom is the part of drivers/usb/core/quirks.c of latest
kernel source. You can see that USB_SUSPEND is impotent option for
mobile_linux but need a lot of testing and fixing. If you like make you
device working for you and other, report your usb_id and dmesg which
show broken device. You need make fallowing steps to do this:

install kernel_with debug enabled
# sudo apt-get install linux-image-debug-2.6.20-15-generic

unplug your broken device
boot linux-debug and clear dmesg
# sudo dmesg -c

plug in you broken device
save dmesg usb_id:
# dmesg  my_kerlel.log
# lsusb -v  my_lsusb

5. post it here with description and name of device.


/* List of quirky USB devices.  Please keep this list ordered by:
 *  1) Vendor ID
 *  2) Product ID
 *  3) Class ID
 *
 * as we want specific devices to be overridden first, and only after
that, any
 * class specific quirks.
 *
 * Right now the logic aborts if it finds a valid device in the table,
we might
 * want to change that in the future if it turns out that a whole class of
 * devices is broken...
 */
static const struct usb_device_id usb_quirk_list[] = {
/* HP 5300/5370C scanner */
{ USB_DEVICE(0x03f0, 0x0701), .driver_info =
USB_QUIRK_STRING_FETCH_255 },
/* Seiko Epson Corp - Perfection 1670 */
{ USB_DEVICE(0x04b8, 0x011f), .driver_info =
USB_QUIRK_NO_AUTOSUSPEND },
/* Elsa MicroLink 56k (V.250) */
{ USB_DEVICE(0x05cc, 0x2267), .driver_info =
USB_QUIRK_NO_AUTOSUSPEND },

{ }  /* terminating entry must be last */
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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-02 Thread Ashish Kulkarni
Unfortunately, I'm on AMD64 so I'm in the process of building a version
myself.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-02 Thread Stinger
Fishor , just like Jean I have tried your kernel-image , 
linux-image-2.6.20-15-124-386.deb , scanning using Xsane  works again !!
Phew...  Great job Fishor !
My scanner is Epson Perfection 1670 using the snapscan backend.
Thanks again

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-01 Thread cyber_rigger
The scanbuttond workaround worked for me too (LiDE25 scanner).

I installed the package scanbuttond with synaptic.
I entered the command

scanbuttond

as a normal user from a Terminal window.

Magically both xsane and xscanimage started working,
both as a standalone and with gimp.

Kooka worked too.

If I killed scanbuttond then xsane,  xscanimage and kooka became broken
again.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-01 Thread Ashish Kulkarni
If the Ubuntu devs cannot post an official update as it would break
laptop users, can someone post updated non-official kernel packages with
USB_SUSPEND disabled?

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-01 Thread Thom Pischke
scanbuttond works well for me.  Just have to remember to run it manually
before starting to scan.

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-01 Thread Jaime
I've been following this bug for a couple of weeks, and by now everybody
seems to relate this issue with USB_SUSPEND and agree that several backends
are affected...
But my Benq S2W 3300U (snapscan backend) is not working too, even with all
the posted workarrounds.
I tested with the polling script (intended for plustek, but customized by me
for snapscan), and also the scanbuttond trick, but doesn't work at all...

When I scan with every program (xsane, scanimage, etc...) from the command
line I got the message:
[snapscan] Scanner warming up - waiting 19 seconds.

But after the 19 seconds the message repeats again - for 5 minutes more or
less. After that, xsane complains about device (snapscan:libusb:003:003)
being busy
Now I'm running it with scanbuttond on the background, and the only
difference is that the lamp is blinking every second.

Any ideas?

Regards

On 5/1/07, t2000kw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I should add that I got an acceptable scan, I think, so the scanbuttond
 is doing something. I couldn't' get Xsane to work before.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-01 Thread fishor
you can try this image on your own risk
http://rapidshare.com/files/28940816/linux-image-2.6.20-15-124-386_2.6.20-15.27ubuntu1.1_i386.deb.html

md5sum
7a11b089b0a1496b98a99cdd77cfcc65  
linux-image-2.6.20-15-124-386_2.6.20-15.27ubuntu1.1_i386.deb

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-01 Thread William Gallafent
I initially had the original reported problem (Kubuntu 7.04 updated to
today / Kooka / LiDE 25), with a black scan being produced. I installed
scanbuttond, started it, and restarted Kooka after unplugging /
replugging the scanner. This allowed me to make a preview. I then
adjusted some settings for the final scan, but when I press Final Scan
the scanner does nothing again, and I get an all-black image.

So, the scanbuttond hack doesn't work well for me here - only one image
produced before going back to not working. So, I need a real fix before
I'll be able to scan with 7.04.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-01 Thread Jean Brieussel
Hello, 
I am in the same situation as Jaime but my scanner is an Epson Perfection 660.
I am using Feisty now. The scanner used to work with Edgy...
scanbuttond does not work for me...

Where does your image come from, fishor ? 
Is it safe to try ?

Best regards
jeanjean84

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-01 Thread fishor
Brieussel.
I made this image from ubuntu source. There is no patches and only
disabled USB_SUSPEND.
It's working well for me and if some thing wrong you can start your old
kernel.

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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-01 Thread fishor
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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-01 Thread t2000kw
William,

Try the Xsane image scanner. Install it if  you don't have it and give
it a try. The scanbuttond works with it. I just don't see any useful OCR
work being done with it. Other than that, it might meet your needs.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-01 Thread marvin duran
scanbuttond worked for me on LIDE30!! incredible...

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-05-01 Thread Martin Paulo
scanbuttond worked for me for one scan (CanoScan N670U). Then the whole
thing stopped. Sigh.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread fishor
wow. you questions made me a bit smarter this morning. I read some 
documentation and this what i have:
from kernel source 
Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
Module parameters for loadable modules are specified only as the
parameter name with optional '=' and value as appropriate, such as:

modprobe usbcore blinkenlights=1

Module parameters for modules that are built into the kernel image
are specified on the kernel command line with the module name plus
'.' plus parameter name, with '=' and value if appropriate, such as:

usbcore.blinkenlights=1

This document may not be entirely up to date and comprehensive. The command
modinfo -p ${modulename} shows a current list of all parameters of a loadable
module. Loadable modules, after being loaded into the running kernel, also
reveal their parameters in /sys/module/${modulename}/parameters/. Some of these
parameters may be changed at runtime by the command
echo -n ${value}  /sys/module/${modulename}/parameters/${parm}.


It's mean you need to make:
echo -n 60  /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend
or some other timing.

it can be so easy and at same time not. The ubuntu kernel do NOT have
this option :(

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread fishor
here is request for autosuspend module option 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/77

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread fraz
Hello People,

I checked out the scan button daemon from feisty and IT WORKED.

It is really funny. The daemon could be started from the user.

Now I am able to remove the edgy kernel from my machine..

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread fishor
It's a good workaround ;)
it still need be fixed in the kernel. scan button daemon don't allow suspend 
the device.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread dompie
It is a very big shame altogether and probably the first step to another
distribution.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread Corsaire
to fraz

please can you tell exactly what is this scan button daemon, I don't
understand what this is about

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread fishor
sudo aptitude install scanbuttond

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread fraz
Some more explaination about scan button daemon:

install the software
sudo aptitude install scanbuttond

now start the daemon as normal user
scanbuttond.

after this my epson scanner with snapscan backend is working fine.

But what is going on?
the daemon allways watches for the scanner and the usb did not suspend.

the real function of this software is to look for the buttons on the scanner 
and do something usefull lke 
scanning - printing - scanning - email 

regards
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Re: [Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread ubunovi
Thank you soo much!
My LiDE 20 (N670U) cooperates with Xsane again - scanbuttond works
perfect for me...

regards

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread Corsaire
Works with my Lide 30 too.

However this is all only a workaround, the true essence of the problem
remains.

On another note, do we have to start 'scanbuttond' everytime we want to scan or 
is does it start with the system boot once installed ?
Since I installed Ubuntu at my parents place (and they're NOT computer IT at 
all) a negative answer would mean that I have to start 'scanbuttond' with 
something like  /etc/rc.local to be sure the scanner is available anytime.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread t2000kw
I installed scanbuttond as suggested, following the instructions

Then I ran it from within terminal

Then ran Kooka

Still getting black scan (fake scan, scanner really doesn't scan)

So this may work with some scanning programs but not all.

Which program(s) have you tried with it that it works with?

I'd like to see one with OCR capabilities work, but anything that has
some variety of options for saving scans would be good enough for now.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread fraz
Hi t2000kw,

I worked with gnome - xsane.

Have you read the manuals at http://scanbuttond.sourceforge.net/ not all
scanners are supported.

regards
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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread t2000kw
I did try Xsane and it scanned--poor, unusable OCR rendering, though (I
installed Gocr and Ocrad as OCR support).  Any suggestions on a good OCR
scanning program?

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-30 Thread t2000kw
I should add that I got an acceptable scan, I think, so the scanbuttond
is doing something. I couldn't' get Xsane to work before.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-29 Thread Corsaire
Same thing with a Canon Lide 30

When starting xsane from GImp and asking for a preview, it does the preview but 
leaves the sensor head it the middle and then does not answer anymore.
Then when you close xsane and start it again, the sensor head moves a bit as to 
go in initial place but stops again too soon.

It seems to me to be a bug introduced in the initializing process of the
Canon scanners.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-29 Thread fishor
thanks emu. it's looks really like my bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/96883

It seems like some devices not working properly with USB_SUSPEND. Simple and 
may be only solution is to make blacklist entry to drivers/usb/core/quirks.c
or kompile the kernel without USB_SUSPEND ( not realy good idea ;) ) . Please 
report it to the kernel.org  or continue this bug 
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8231

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-29 Thread Corsaire
is there a way to disable the USB_SUSPEND in a simple manipulation for
test purposes ?

Is something like a command 'echo 1 
/proc/sys/kernel/something_relate_to_USB_SUSPEND'  exists ?

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-29 Thread Corsaire
marked as fixed in main stream. in
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8231

Does it mean a new kernel for Feisty will be released soon ?

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-29 Thread fishor
hmm... good question!
i taked a look to the last git kernel_source and there is no support of procfs 
( or i didn't found ) ,  it seems to support sysfs but it was added later for 
2.6.21
Te is module parherameter usb_autosuspend_delay for usbcore  you can try to set 
it to usb_autosuspend_delay=0 or to 60:
sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/options
options usbcore usb_autosuspend_delay=0

it can be this option working only with kernel 2.6.21

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-29 Thread Chris Samuel
I was going to suggest people try the linux-image-server kernel, but I
noticed that this has CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND set too. :-(

Is there a reason for that (given that you don't usually expect servers
needing to suspend/resume).

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-29 Thread cchan
Sorry to interrupt, but chalk up another one for
Kubuntu/Feisty/AMD64/Canon N670U.

Currently have my 32-bit MEPIS machine doing all the scan jobs until
this issue can be resolved.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread David Warde-Farley
Experiencing the same bug. Canon LiDE 30.

Like Kev above, I nearly THREW OUT my scanner because I assumed it had
taken some sort of fatal blow. It's kind of bizarre that they'd allow
this kind of regression to go into the stock kernel. I agree, laptop
suspend/resume is important, but Jesus, if you're not going to fix the
problem then patch xsane to warn the user or something.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread Luca Beltrame
Like I said, more than a kernel issue or a sane issue it's a libusb
issue, because it can't handle suspend/resume. Has anyone tried
contacting the libusb developers?

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread David Warde-Farley
To elaborate, the really devious thing about this bug is that it can
EASILY be mistaken for a hardware fault, especially since everything
appears to function normally on the software end. Please AT LEAST
release a quick and dirty OMFG you got a crap scanner sry patch.

Joel Berger's plustek-wrapper works wonderfully, however. Cheers to you
friend.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread emu
Maybe this bug 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/93654
is also related to ours.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread emu
I actually wrote a E-Mail to Johannes Erdfeldt, the developer of libusb. 
Because I didn´t found a official bugtracker for libusb. I asked him if the 
problem could be caused by libusb and if libusb already can handle the 
suspend/resume option.
Hope he will answer and help us.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread Fabio Marzocca
@emu
I did it too... just few minutes before you did!

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread ra-ma
I want to confirm this issue with a Canon N650U at an IBM R40 notebook.
Worked with Edgy, no more with Feisty.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread xens
Same problem there with a Hercules Maxi Scan A4 USB 36bit, worked fine
with Edgy and no luck with Feisty

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread aNTwNHs
Same proble here. Canon Lide 20 worked fine in edgy but not in feisty.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread aNTwNHs
gscan2pdf worked for me. If you mainly need to scan documents and not images 
it's a 'workaround'. I just downloaded and installed the following package.
http://gscan2pdf.sourceforge.net/download/debian/binary/gscan2pdf_0.9.8_all.deb

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread Thom Pischke
Nice tip!  gscan2pdf works fine for me too.  Perfect workaround for me,
since I typically want documents in PDF form anyway.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread scottmb
Can someone point me in the right direction for information on how to
get gscan2pdf to recognize that I have a USB scanner?

Thanks,

Scott

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread Dean Loros
Take a look at my post #15 here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414474page=2

I installed it with Synaptic, but the extra downloads are not reconized
unless you right-click on the highlighted gscan2pdf.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread cyber_rigger
A quick hack to open a full page scan into gimp (LiDE25).

scanimage -x 215 -y 297  ~/image.pnm  gimp ~/image.pnm

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread David Warde-Farley
gscan2pdf refuses to scan in lineart mode. Unknown message: scanimage:
unrecognized option `--compression=None'

Considering how this is the most useful mode for document scanning I
wouldn't consider this a very good workaround.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread Ashish Kulkarni
It looks like it also affects other USB devices also, see bug #110806

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-28 Thread Dean Loros
As far as Gscan2pdf, I'd goto Sourceforge's page  contact the
maintainer Also, he might be able to shed some light about your lineart
needs. This was only proposed as a TEMPORARY solution until Xsane
becomes operational again.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-27 Thread FrankMayer
I can also confirm the problem on ubuntu/feisty/i386 with a Canon 670U.
Fortunately, the wrapper from Joel Berger and ianrose works perfectly
for me.

Although I know that it is a hack (and somehow dirty) it may be worth
for everyone to give it a try. Maybe there are extensions possible for
those, who experience problems due to the use of non-plustek-drivers.

IMO it stands to reason that kernel-settings in ubuntu are not going to
be changed until the next release (except for security-issues of
course).

Thanx to Joel and ianrose,
Frank

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-27 Thread Fabio Marzocca
A windows user was looking at me while I was trying to scan a page with
my Feisty and Canon Lide-30... He went away from my desk laughing
aloud...

It's a shame.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-27 Thread Thom Pischke
Just for the record, Joel Berger's workaround didn't work for me.  Or
rather, it works only for one scan.

I've resigned myself to using scanimage until this gets fixed.  This is
annoying since I bought this scanner specifically because it would work
well on Linux, and it worked amazingly well on edgy.  I'm not willing to
spend time and energy backpedalling kernels and/or recompiling stuff to
get this working, so I hope the Ubuntu team recognizes this problem
soon.  Even if they don't fix it in Feisty, I'd be willing to risk an
early upgrade to Gutsy to get a decent scan GUI back.  From the sounds
of it, Gutsy will be a stability release anyway, so would be an
appropriate place to fix stuff like this.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-27 Thread Tommy Trussell
I haven't tested Feisty yet (unfortunately I have been relying on a LiDE
30 scanner) but as I've followed the progress of this bug I wondered if
someone could try rolling the keep the USB port open hacks into the
scan button daemon http://scanbuttond.sourceforge.net/  That way the
hack could be useful in more than one way.

(I have noticed newer versions of xsane such as the one in Edgy have
button information in the GUI, which isn't activated on my LiDE 30. But
it's possible scanbuttond might interfere with xsane's code somehow.)

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-26 Thread marvin duran
Confirmed on ubunty fesity final

Bus 002 Device 007: ID 04a9:220e Canon, Inc. CanoScan N1240U/LiDE 30

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-26 Thread Willi
I have the same problems and resolved it just by booting with the latest
but one kernel that was automatically installed during the update from
Edgy to Feisty. Obviously, the latest but one kerne was not compiled
with the USB_SUSPEND-option. Now my Lide 20 works fine again.

If you do not need a kernel feature that is only available in the latest
kernel, just boot the latest but one distributed by Ubuntu - no need to
recompile your own kernel.

Jens

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-26 Thread Lionel DUVAL
Willi, which kernel are u working with ?

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-26 Thread David78
same problem with a Epson Perfection 660 (snapscan)...
but, when I launch Xsane, it freeze on the device choice window, and I was sure 
it was a freeze, but not.
In fact, if I wait 5 minutes, it finally start and I can scan normally.

and if I don't scan for a long period, it freeze but just for 5
minutes...

perhaps it is possible to make a little daemon that talk to the
scanner every 2 minutes, avoid it to asleep ;-)

David

PS: I've got this in /var/log/syslog, and the timing seems to match with
the moment I use Xsane (but my scanner is USB!?):

Apr 26 11:44:44 morpheus kernel: [ 6245.556000] ppdev0: registered pardevice
Apr 26 11:44:44 morpheus kernel: [ 6245.556000] ppdev0: unregistered pardevice
Apr 26 11:44:45 morpheus kernel: [ 6246.30] ppdev0: registered pardevice
Apr 26 11:44:45 morpheus kernel: [ 6246.348000] ppdev0: negotiated back to 
compatibility mode because user-space forgot
Apr 26 11:44:45 morpheus kernel: [ 6246.348000] ppdev0: unregistered pardevice

same in kern.log...

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-26 Thread ianrose
I've had to conclude that the developers won't be fixing this one - they
are not going to change the kernel build options for anything other than
security issues, which this isn't. The time to fix this was during
feisty development, by responding to this bug report. Instead the
decision was taken to allow some of the best-supported scanners under
linux to become broken, balancing that against the benefit elsewhere.
Hopefully it was worth it - some kind of response to all these hundreds
of bug reports would be nice!

I now have Feisty running, with the latest Nvidia drivers, Beryl, all my
hardware (INCLUDING my LIDE-20!) working properly.

How? By enabling edy security repository, installing the 2.6.17-11
kernel, removing the ubuntu Nvidia stuff, adding all the build-essential
gcc and so on, then installing the Nvidia drivers (and compiling the
kernel modules after stopping kdm), editing xorg.conf. I've had to do
all this sort of thing before, but this kind of thing is what I moved to
Ubuntu to avoid - certainly not working-out-of-the-box! Oh well, next
release will be THE one, I'm sure.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-26 Thread fraz
I also downgraded to 2.6.17-11 kernel and now my epson 1670 works fine
with xsane and vuescan.

It is gracy ...

No help from ubuntu?! ...

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-26 Thread Martin Paulo
Just been bitten by this one as well. I guess this means I have to
return to using Windows. *Sigh*

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-25 Thread lanig
I have the same trouble on a Packard-Bell computer and a Epson perfection 1670.
Was working perfectly under edgy, now must be root to find the scanner, then 
scanimage -L and xane  as user will work but sometimes I/O err with scanner.
Works with another computer.

Packard-Bell #lispci

00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0)
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1)
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2)
00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3)
00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4)
00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 SMBus (rev 13)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Azalia
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to PCI Bridge
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 
200]
02:05.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-24 Thread Christian A. Reiter
good workaround. Ubuntu had more than two kernels in Dapper or Breezy if I 
remember correctly - for i386, i586, k7, k8, so THAT should be not the problem.
But it doesn't solve the problem, neither helps it people who hava just a 
laptop and want to attach a scanner to it.
Of course they could use the desktop kernel then...
It would be a workaround, good idea in my opinion.
And they could install both kernels, and start the one they need ;-)

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-24 Thread matchstich
my epson perfection 1200 quit after the update
xsane  just hangs, say it searching  but that is it
have to force quit to get it to stop

scanimage thru  the terminal does the same,  just hangs

gimp hangs searching for plugins
the only way to close gimp is to reboot.

the scanner worked ok  before the up date, just plugged it in 
and it worked.

sane-find-scanner still sees my scanner

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-24 Thread exkeks
Same problem with LiDE25 on Feisty. Edgy worked fine with that scanner.
Thank you Joel Berger for the workaround!!!

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-24 Thread txana
Same here with CanoScan N650U. Yesterday it worked like a charm with
Edgy on Dell Laptop. Today it doesn't work after updated to Feisty.

Can't find a workaround valid for me. Maybe with an old kernel version
valid for Feisty?

Please someone mark this bug as high priority. People working on image
tasks can't wait that long. Thinking on a downgrade to Edgy :(

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-24 Thread txana
** Changed in: xsane (upstream)
   Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-23 Thread Dean Loros
I just got the current message list from sane-development-list  saw
this message:


Message: 8
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:20:19 +0200
From: Gerhard Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [sane-devel] scanner
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=ansi_x3.4-1968

On Sonntag, 22. April 2007, JKD wrote:
  El Sun, 22 de Apr de 2007, a las 11:13:15AM +0200, guido dom dijo:
   There must definitively be something fundamenally wrong with Feisty if 
   such
   a number of users are experimenting problems with their scanner (Iam too
   with a canon N670U that is recognised but does not start).
   
   Both SANE and UBUNTU should, in my humble opinion, already have reacted 
   with
   a patch or a solution (or an advice to buy another scanner!!!).
   
  
  May be it's not a SANE specific problem but kernel's experimental
  changes and updated libraries that conflict with binary verions provided
  by Ubuntu, and other distros. At least, testing with a backend (not
  related to your scanner), the one provided by distro didn't work and
  the same one compiled from SANE sources in Feisty worked like a charm.
  
  So one solution could be to compile SANE against current library versions
  in each distro and after testing its funtionability, notify maintainers
  to update their packages.
  
It is in fact a problem that has been introduced by the kernel-option
CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND (which is marked as experimental). Disable that,
recompile the kernel and the stuff should work. I also got some
success reports, where libusb has been recompiled.

- Gerhard

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-23 Thread Dean Loros
i have a suggestion. How hard would it be to have TWO kernels---One for
desktop unit that have no need for USB_SUSPEND   one for laptops that
do?  It would be very easy for the user to download the right kernel for
his/her use

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-23 Thread Luca Beltrame
It is *not* a problem of the specific backend, as the snapscan backend
(as I already stated) is affected too. It looks like a bug in libusb
instead, which doesn't handle usb suspend correctly.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-23 Thread Christian A. Reiter
I have the Canon N650U that doesn't work - but I must say that my 
suspend/resume function doesn't work very good either.
So im very unhappy with this implementation in feisty.
(FJS Amilo Pa1538)

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread Steve_McGarrett
Recompiling is no option either.

What we need is a proper fix and we need it soon.

And change the priority of this bug to high.

Thinking about going back to SuSE 10.2 :-(

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread Lionel DUVAL
I confirm the problem of black preview/no movement with a Canon Lide 25.
Really hope a fix very soon, as soon as I am not a devel.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread t2000kw
If I could figure out how to get my Canon i850 printer to work properly
under Suse 10.2 Linux, I would go back, but there seems to be no way to
get the Pixus driver installed, or at least installed in a way I can
figure out how to use it. I have the apt-get commands for Debian based
Linux distros and it works for this just fine. I will need the Canon
LIDE 25 scanner sooner or later, so I'll have to make the switch sooner,
before I need it.

Is there a way to use a kernel from another distro or are they all
broken now? in other words, is even Suse broken in the latest
incarnation of their distro?

Thanks!!!

Donald

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread jwrooker
Confirming the problem with Feisty and LIDE 30.  Works fine in Fedora
Core 6.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread hirse
Also the same problem with up-to-date (2007-04-22) feisty and Canon
N650U. Please fix in some way. The workarounds help. If you need a GUI,
you can use gscan2pdf, works fine.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread t2000kw
Using an application called scanner utility I was able to successfully
scan at 96 dpi with my Canon LIDE 25. When I tried about 600 dpi it
wouldn't work but appeared to be working in the application, showing
some progress in the status bar.

The utility is quite limited, and it only saves the file in a graphics
file format.

But this utility can apparently keep the port open long enough to do a
low res scan. Maybe this will be helpful to someone.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread t2000kw
The utility I mentioned previously does not like to close when finished.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread Dean Loros
As reported elsewhere---gscan2pdf (from sourceforge) will scan with a GUI. I 
added the gscan repository to apt: 
deb http://gscan2pdf.sourceforge.net/download/debian binary/

then used Synaptic to install with all the depends except sane (sane
frontend). this software works very well  looks to be a great
workaround until Xsane is fixed. (I think that I'll be keeping it
because of the availablilty to create pdf's) ;)

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread t2000kw
FYI--if you experiment with this, you can use the Xkill application from
within a terminal window to close the unruly window.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread rwkraemer
I had also the USB SUSPEND Problem with my Epson Perfection 1260/Photo
Scanner. I recompiled the Kernel and now it is working. While
recompiling I found out, that the USB SUSPEND Funktion is still
experimental. I think it should be deaktivited, there are to many
Problems with it. I think it should only be aktivated when the Problem
is fixed. Many People have Scanners, which now do not work any more. Not
every User can recompile a Kernel to fix this Problem.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread t2000kw
I tried gscan2pdf but the application from the link is missing some
packages, according to an error message I got.  Not sure where to get
these things--I thought when a package was chosen all of the associated
packages were brought along with it???

Anyway, it doesn't know my scanner exists, so there's not much I can do
with it in this state.

As for disabling the USB Suspend in the kernel, can you give me a few
pointers on where to disable this when I'm recompiling the kernel (what
module to look for it under, etc.)?

I think I can get the information needed on how to recompile somewhere
in a book I have or online.

Of course, if you wish to offer a step-by-step here you can do so, but I
think it would be rather long.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread Dean Loros
Edit your apt sources.list code sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

and add these lines:
#Gscan2pdf
deb http://gscan2pdf.sourceforge.net/download/debian binary/

save  close.then start Synaptic  update.
Search for gscan2pdf, then highlight it/right click  add all depends EXCEPT 
sane. return  download.

I guess because it's a #rd party program, the depends don't come up
except with a prompt

Hope this helps--I've posted on the forums also.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread t2000kw
How do I find and get rid of Gscan2pdf??? It won't work, and it doesn't
show up in add/remove programs or in Synaptics package manager.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread Dean Loros
Added note: I guess that it would have been better to recomend apt-get
to get it-Apt-get would recomend the extra stuff to get the software
working--just don't add sane unless you un-install xsane.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-22 Thread Clay Weber
As the kernel config option  does not look to be going away (there are
plenty of so-called experimental kernel options that are in just about
every distro's version) as laptop support is deemed more important, and
i tend to concur, even though I don't have a laptop. Becausr this
problem does not effect all scanners, just plustek-based ones as far as
I can see, the plac this needs to be fixed is imo in the plustek
backkend, as all that needs to be done it seems is to have the plustek
backend keep the usb device 'awake'.

If so, I wonder if it is a good idea to register bug reports on sane's
bug tracker as well?

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-21 Thread Kev
Gee, thanks guys, I just threw my Canon 1240u in the bin because it
wasn't working!  Good work.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-21 Thread ubunovi
Hello out there,
my LIDE 20 doesn't work as it does with edgy. Same stuff like above: with 
XSANE: itchy noises but no image, with scanimage: noise and image. For all 
other manners: I love feisty! Really good work! Thanx

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-21 Thread fsando
This is also a problem with agfa 1212u - which worked perfectly in edgy

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-21 Thread SpookyGhost
Confirm problem with agfa 1212u and feisty, with edgy worked fine.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-21 Thread Steve_McGarrett
I have an Agfa SnapScan 1212U too and the LED of the USB-port it is
connected to just blinks.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-21 Thread cyber_rigger
It appears to be some problem with initializing the scanner.

I was playing around with scanimage then immediately afterwards I tried
xsane.

Xsane accidentally worked for one scan.

I have not been able to reproduce it.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-21 Thread Dean Loros
As noted above, libusb is the suspect in this case. USB port is going to
sleep before the scan can be finalized.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-21 Thread fsando
Confirming the problem with agfa snapscan 1212u - worked perfectly in
edgy

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-21 Thread dd
Feisty Fawn: Cannon Lide20 is not working. The xsane is starting
fine. It is showing all component windows of the xsane frontend in
perfect order. But, it is not working. When I click the 'Preview' or the
'Scan' it is starting in usual manner, and after some time generating a
blank black image. Not that they are not working. They are working: but
generating blank black images.

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[Bug 85488] Re: Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui

2007-04-21 Thread t2000kw
This does not work on my system either, using a Canon LIDE 25 scanner.
If suspend/resume cannot function together with useable scanner drivers,
how about a way to choose one or the other for now until the bug can be
fixed?

Is it worth learning how to recompile a kernel to fix this, and would it
fix this problem if we didn't need suspend/resume???

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