On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 15:22 +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Assuming you are serious, you'll have to provide specifics.
1) Ubuntu Herd 4 installed fine but Kubuntu Herd 4 had a bug where you
could not remove the CD (ejector button dead) and power button
no-response and had to unplug your machine to get out of that loop...
now Ubuntu Herd 5 has that same problem.
2) Herd 5 - Control Center is gone and drop down menus used instead. We
went from easy and fun (visually laid out great!) - to dull and
unintuitive. Same ole same ole.
3) Changing [View] in Evolution is now broken (takbar settings)
4) MP3 support in Sound Recorder seems to be gone (yes I realize the
maybe-legal issues - but now my mp3 player is useless with ubuntu).
5) [Desktop Effects] freezes my machine with a full white screen (just
white nothing else except cursor cross-hairs that do nothing) requiring
a full reinstall (unfixable except in safe-terminal IF you know what you
are doing). Yet I ran Beryl fine in 6.10.
6) Windows Media from web links does not stream in Totem (yes.. mms and
gstream and all applied) it either will not run or (open a stand alone
totem and it will run but so spasmed out you do not want to watch it -
voice out of sync - jumpy, horrible).
7) In Herd 4 and install or Realplayer worked. In herd 5 and install of
Realplayer does not work (Firefox wise). Something got broken under the
hood.
Totem ... needs a lot of work. It would be better to write a working
mozzila plugin for VLC. VLC can do all totem can (almost) do and do
it better.
I will let you know others as I find them (not looking - just bumping
into them).
Oh, yeah... it frustrates me that I set a background and if I forget or
even move the pic from where it was - my background is now gone. Just
create a .background directory and if someone sets a background copy the
pic there and pick it us from there for use. That way the user can not
screw it up.
Now I am new to Linux... but I am as old as the hills to computing. I
was designing networks and coding in C when the internet was a
char-interface only. And I would like to see serious competition for
Microsloth ... Ubuntu can be that (Gnome and all). BUT - the average mom
and pop user who does only the simple things like email and browsing a
bit of WP and picture gawking ... has got to be able to sit down with a
new install of Ubuntu - and quickly make it work. They have no need or
desire to look under the hood. Nore do they have any desire to run the
universe using their computer.
Mr Linux is wrong.. for knocking Gnome... as if everybody using Linux
MUST be a code-tech! KDE will just confuse the fu*k out of the
novice.(As it did me) and Gnome is the ticket for the linux beginner who
has no desire to script around under the hood.
HERD 4 - was much closer to a working, useful, well organized for the
newbie - reason to drop Windows.
Keep in mind that the biggest trouble with any successful program
application (there is a comparison here) is - bloat. Windows Vista - is
BLOATED beyond belief. Excepting specific tech purposes (I workstation
music on Windows) it is bloated to nonsense for the average person - who
just wants to do email, surf the web, record rip music, watch a few
movies, play some games ... and not much more.
Ubuntu IS the closest thing to replacing Windows for the average
(non-tech) user... and that is a compliment. And I think that should be
the main focus (right now) as the tide is favorable. Easy of use for the
beginner - and all the main functions (email, browse, mp3, pics, WP)
working.
The great thing about Ubuntu is its simplicity (opposite of bloat). One
CAN trick it out is one wants to (and that is a plus) but out of the
box - it should be simple and functional right away for the - average
guy. Someone who does not know a bit of code should be able to install
it and working (for the essentials I mentioned) within 20 minutes. And
everything about it (installed out of the box) should either work - and
be real intuitive - or - not be there.
Bring back the Control Center - bring back lame-mp3 support, freeze your
app-repository (the stuff available to install) and concentrate and
making everything in the repository - work in every way.
It is better to have less-of-a-product in which everything works - than
to have more-of-a-product in which 40% of things are broken or flakey.
Just my humble opinion. But.. I have (in the past) made many software
companies wealthy - because I know what the average joe likes and wants
in the way of software. I know what people will buy and not buy - and
why.
What attracts a experienced linux person to linux - is not the same
thing that will attract the masses to linux.
Anyways.. thanks for listening. I doubt things will change. And that is
fine and I will like Ubuntu no matter what anyway.
-ray
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