[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
Xfce Power Manager sets DPMS, so Xscreensaver should not be used with Xfce Power Manager as such. https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10205 If I e.g. set Mode to Presentation in Xfce Power Manager (that is equivalent to setting 'xset -dpms', lock and unlock by 'xscreensaver-command -lock', actual DPMS may be changed to Enabled. ** Bug watch added: Xfce Bugzilla #10205 https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10205 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
I think Jarno and Jamie are misunderstanding each other: > Could the "Disable Screen Saver" mode be changed to not change DPMS settings, when not locked? I see no reason why selecting "Disable Screen Saver" should prevent kicking in DPMS at all as Jamie stated in comment #18 this is more or less a bug. With Jamies claim that XScreenSaver needs to control DPMS and Jarno's claim that "Disable Screen Saver" also disables XScreenSaver's DPMS even if enabled in the "Advanced" tab of xscreensaver-demo I think you guys are talking about 2 different things while thinking to talk about the same thing making the confusion just perfect. Correct me if I'm wrong with this conclusion. Then we have another issue claimed by Jarno that xscreensaver-demo does not take care and don't update it's values/overwriting with old values if the DPMS settings were changed by other means. Not sure if this is due to XScreenSaver being in charge of DPMS but maybe this should be handled in another ticket (so Jarno you could create another one and cc Jamie there). Also we have another feature request by me and Jarno how DPMS should be handled in special cases for example if the screen is locked (if it should ignore the users time settings or not etc.). This is something that should be handled by another ticket too but unfortunately since the actual bug why we are here does prevent to utilize XScreenSaver's DPMS at all more or less for some unknown reason makes it impossible to test how DPMS actually works to check if there is a feature request required or not. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
As for #16, is the XQueryExtension "DPMS" setting the one that can be controlled by 'xset +dpms' and 'xset -dpms'? Using the latter makes DPMS disabled, but as far as I switch to advanced tab (from another tab) in xscreensaver preferences (or possibly do another action in xscreensaver) the setting is changed to what xscreensaver remembers it was. Could it be changed so that it will fill the values by current (X) settings, and change the settings only, if the change is explicitly made in the dialog? That way it would not mess with e.g. Xfce Power Manager's monitor settings, if the DPMS settings are changed in the Xfce user interface. I think it would help, if the preferences dialog had Apply button that would make the changes effective. That would also fix Bug #889397. Could the "Disable Screen Saver" mode be changed to not change DPMS settings, when not locked? User could change them in the Advanced tab or elsewhere, if needed. I mean it would be "Neither automatic screen saver nor automatic locker; just let DPMS do its job, if enabled, and lock when requested" mode. However, IMO it would be good to change DPMS setting during locking in that mode so that it turns off display after small delay as there is no use for the display anyway. It should restore the old setting, when unlocking. I think the same thing could be done in "Blank Screen Only" mode, as user supposedly has different preferences for DPMS while being locked and while not. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
> Ok well that shouldn't be. I don't know what's wrong. This is what the ticket is all the years talking about :) Comment #14 implied just a bit that this behavior could be intended if the screensaver is disabled so I wrote comment #15 with the potential possibilities how this could be handled. Good to know that this is indeed just a bug. The question is now why it happens. It is now over 5 years since I reported this issue against XScreenSaver 5.15 (currently I'm on XScreenSaver 5.36) and was not able to utilize DPMS in all this time. Also currently 7 other users have enabled the flag that they are affected by this bug too as this ticket shows. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
The DPMS settings in xscreensaver-demo are not grayed out on my system, DPMS is there enabled but it never kicks in. Why is it a "terrible idea" if it would in this case? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
> DPMS is disabled, if you have chosen mode "Disable Screen Saver" in Xscreensaver's preferences. Is this really the case? At least xscreensaver-demo does not gray out the DPMS settings while it grays out the screensaver settings if the screensaver is disabled. So technically this would be a bug either in xscreensaver itself as it should not disable DPMS or in xscreensaver- demo as it should gray out the DPMS settings. I'm not sure if it makes actually sense to bind the DPMS settings to the screensaver settings as maybe the DPMS settings should just work independent and be able to standby/shutdown the monitor no matter if a screensaver has been enabled or not. Not sure what happens and what should happen if the screen is locked. Maybe the DPMS settings should just apply as configured and eventually there should be an option to apply the choosen DPMS settings as soon as the lock screen does nothing draw anymore (it sounds a bit as "Quick Power-off in Blank Only Mode" does this already). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
DPMS is disabled, if you have chosen mode "Disable Screen Saver" in Xscreensaver's preferences. It would have to be changed to use DPMS while being locked. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
I got around this dpms-is-always-disabled nuisance in Xubuntu 16.04 by calling a bash script in ~/.config/autostart/.desktop. The script sleeps for 10 seconds and *then* calls xset in such a way as to enable dpms. The 10-second delay is evidently long enough for the startup of the X session to be completed, along with the disablement of dpms that appears to happen during session startup but, alas, after the contents of the autostart have been processed. I had earlier tried uninstalling light-locker, BTW, but it didn't help. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
I have installed xscreensaver into Ubuntu 14.04.
I had to replace gnome-screensaver{,-command} with xscreensaver to get it to
work.
But after that I find that DPMS is Disabled, and it annoys me.
Even without activating xserver, the xset power management is broken:
I could enable DPMS with this command:
xset +dpms
I could also force DPMS in suspend mode, and my display would enter power
saving mode:
xset dpms force suspend
But within one minute, the display powers up, and DPMS is Disabled
again!
So what is the proper way to control the GNOME power management?
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[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
This is what I get on my desktop system: sworddragon@ubuntu:~$ cat .xscreensaver | grep dpms dpmsEnabled:True dpmsQuickOff: True dpmsStandby:0:10:00 dpmsSuspend:2:00:00 dpmsOff:4:00:00 sworddragon@ubuntu:~$ xdpyinfo -queryExtensions | grep DPMS DPMS (opcode: 147) sworddragon@ubuntu:~$ xset -q | grep DPMS DPMS (Energy Star): DPMS is Disabled -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
I have a quite similar problem here (12.04 LTS amd64). It seems xscreensaver is somehow not controlling the dpms settings correctly. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
I have now tested this with Ubuntu 14.04 dev and xscreensaver 5.15-3ubuntu1 but it is still not working. xset -q is still always showing "DPMS is Disabled" no matter how often I'm dis- and enabling it in xscreensaver but other values like the standby-, suspend- and off- time are successfully changed on xset -q if I'm changing them with xscreensaver. I'm on LXDE with LXDM as login manager if this should be related to this problem. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
I have now tested this with Ubuntu 14.04 dev and xscreensaver 5.15-3ubuntu1 but it is still not working. I'm also noticing that xset -q is always showing "DPMS is Disabled" no matter how often I'm dis- and enabling it in xscreensaver. But other values like the standby-, suspend- and off-time are successfully changed on xset -q if I'm changing them with xscreensaver. It seems there is currently somewhere an issue that prevents xscreensaver from setting DPMS to enabled or maybe just disables it instantly. I'm on LXDE with LXDM as login manager if this should be related to this problem. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
I think the root of the problem is that if xscreensaver is built with DPMS support, there doesn't seem to be any setting to make it just leave DPMS alone. Also, we probably need the DPMS support because it allows xscreensaver to conserve resources when DPMS turns off the monitor. So as it stands now, if you are using xscreensaver you must use the DPMS settings provided within xscreensaver. Any attempt to use other tools (xset) will fail because xscreensaver will override the other tool. Within xscreensaver preferences under the Advanced tab you can change DPMS settings. Works for me on Saucy, xscreensaver Version: 5.15-3ubuntu1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
I am having similar issues on Xubuntu 12.10. Everything worked perfectly on earlier versions of Xubuntu. Now, no matter what I do, xscreensaver will not allow the monitor to power off. In fact, if I run "xflock4;;xset dpms force off" the monitor powers off, and gets woken back up5-10 seconds later! If I run "xset dpms force off" without xscreensaver, the monitor stays off. xscreensaver is obviously preventing my screen from staying off. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
** Changed in: xscreensaver (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
"lspci -nn | grep VGA" says "02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] [10de:0402] (rev a1)". ** Attachment added: "Xorg.0.log" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+attachment/3128910/+files/Xorg.0.log ** Changed in: xscreensaver (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 924278] Re: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS
What kind of graphics card is this (lspci -nn|grep VGA)? Please attach your Xorg.0.log. http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#dpms-load might shed some light on this. ** Changed in: xscreensaver (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/924278 Title: xscreensaver doesn't enable DPMS To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/924278/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
