[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
I observed this problem yesterday in Kubuntu Gutsy, upgraded from Feisty. cupsys-driver-gutenprint, foomatic-db-gutenprint and ijsgutenprint are all installed. Should the first one not be, and should I uninstall it manually? -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
Michael which printer? -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
Having cupsys-driver-gutenprint or not has no influence on the KDE Printing Manager, especially adding a package will not make printer entries disappear and removing it reappear again. The desired printer entries should be available and working as soon as both foomatic-db- gutenprint and ijsgutenprint are on your system. -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix Target: ubuntu-7.10-rc = later ** Changed in: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
Easiest solution for Gutsy (workaround, not fix!!) is adding foomatic- db-gutenprint and ijsgutenprint to the Kubuntu seeds and removing cupsys-driver-gutenprint from the Kubuntu seeds. This way the IJS driver with Foomatic XML data (supported by KDE Printing Manager) and not the CUPS raster driver with on-the-fly PPD generator (not supported by KDE Printing Manager) will be used. This should be done only in Kubuntu, not in Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu, as it is only to work around the problem of the KDE Printing Manager. The non-Kubuntu editions should stay with cupsys-driver-gutenprint as thiis Gutenprint frontend integrates better with CUPS and needs less disk space in an installed system. ** Also affects: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Critical Assignee: (unassigned) = Jonathan Riddell (jr) Status: New = Confirmed Target: None = ubuntu-7.10-rc -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
well in my comment on 2007-05-12 I said that probably there is a easiest way without changing kubuntu-meta at all, but all ignored me :( -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
I report again the solution: from comment #9 in http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142220 Cimmo, in our case, the optimization level definitely made the difference. On the new system described above, switching from -O3 to -O2 removed the error. Our older systems, which were compiled with -O2 right from the start, never showed the symptoms at all. So, at least in the case of the HP and Lexmark PPDs I used, KDEPrint itself seems innocent. It is of course possible that other, actual errors show up for other PPDs, such as the Canon PPDs you mention. In that case, you should open a new bug report here (with a possible link to this report) and attach your PPDs. -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
Cimmo, for Gutenprint it is really different. The cupsys-driver- gutenprint package does not ship any PPDs but a much smaller PPD generator. This generator is invoked by CUPS if a client asks CUPS for PPD listings or PPDs. The KDE Printing Manager does not ask CUPS for PPDs. It searches by itself in the file system and also browses Foomatic XML files. So it does not find PPDs for cupsys-driver-gutenprint. Therefore the suggestion by Jonathan and me to replace cupsys-driver- gutenprint by foomatic-db-gutenprint and ijsgutenprint. The change of the optimization level can be done independently to fix the other, independent PPD listing problem. -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
Cimmo, if you want your problem fixed in Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), please file a bug here on Launchpad, mark it Critical and set the milestone to 7.10 Gutsy RC. -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
I always add foomatic-db-gutenprint to Kubuntu machines I build for people and it has always (in my experience) been a decision for the better. -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
Till sorry tought that bug was related to this, probably not. -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
My suggestion for a workaround in Gutsy is the following: 1. DO NOT add foomatic-db-gutenprint 2. DO NOT patch KDE Printing Manager 3. Instead, add system-config-printer and hal-cups-utils 4. Modify menu entries that users use preferably system-config-printer and not KDE Printing Manager 5. (Optional) Move KDE Printing Manager into a separate binary package and do not seed it (will make some space for 3.) This works around that KDE Printing Manager is totally outdated, not only with finding and selecting PPDs, but also with CUPS server configuration and other things. It also adds Plug'n'Print (automatic print queue setup) to Kubuntu. Note that the system trays of both KDE and GNOME are compatible to each other, so the tray notification functionality of system-config-printer and hal-cups-utils (both GTK- based) should also work with KDE. -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
Adding the Gnome tools to Kubuntu isn't an option since we don't ship Gnome apps in Kubuntu. However I would like to look at making KDE frontends to these for Hardy. -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
Jonathan, what do you think is the better solution? Adding foomatic-db- gutenprint would introduce confusing duplicates in the web interface (on could perhaps remove cupsys-driver-gutenprint then). Another problem will be that Ubuntu and Kubuntu users will use different types of Gutenprint which can lead to different bugs. Patching KDE Printing Manager would be the most elegant solution, but so shortly before release it is probably not very easy. -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
Have you already tried how GNOMEy system-config-printer and hal-cups- utils are? Do a fresh Kubuntu standard CD installation and sudo apt-get install hal-cups-utils system-config-printer. Which packages and how many MB get pulled in by dependencies. If the amount is low, these are only GTK and not GNOME apps and they could go into Kubuntu, especially when removing the KDE Printing Manager. -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
@Riddell : would you really like to have another release of Kubuntu not supporting many users' printers in the world, just because it shoudn't have some gtk stuff in it ? I think priority was that Kubuntu works. I am using Kubuntu since one year and a half, but I'm considering moving to Ubuntu, seeing that Kubuntu is and apprently will always be a second-class citizen before its sister... -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
karlrhs tells in bug 52581 that this problem does not occur on other distros, probably the other distros have individually patched the KDE Printing Manager and not submitted the patch upstream or they use other printer setup tools by default. In the former case we should take the patches from the other distros, in the latter case Kubuntu should use system-config-printer and hal-cups-utils by default. I hope this bug is urgent enough to get it fixed in Gutsy. ** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu) Target: None = ubuntu-7.10-rc -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
** Summary changed: - [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint + MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint ** Tags added: metabug -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
Till, You've marked this bug for the gutsy RC milestone, but I don't see that anyone has reported this behavior with gutsy, only feisty? -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
See the last two bugs in the list of duplicates: Bug #144283 and bug #148748. -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 99372] Re: MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint
Steve confirmed on a Gutsy full updated up to 4th of Oct 2007 -- MASTER: [Feisty] KDE Printing Manager does not list the PPDs of Gutenprint https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/99372 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kdebase in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
