[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2016-05-04 Thread Devon
I agree this is quite annoying and unintuitive. But from what I'm seeing
in 16.04, there is no more alt-` by default and the action is back to MS
Windows with a simple Alt-tab behaviour which switches between the two
last used windows of any app. Then at some point Ubuntu expanded upon
that to have alt-tab switch between last used apps and alt-` to switch
between last used windows within an app. But now it seems they have
decided to backtrack to simplicity causing users to have to yet again
re-condition their behaviour which is really frustrating.

There really should be an option for either behaviour. I can't see any
options to change this behaviour in the tweak tool or unity plugin in
CompizConfigc (ccsm). There should be a third entry in the windows
switching shortcuts as "Flip through applications in the switcher" then
people can pick to assign alt-tab to that one or the default "start
switcher".

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2016-04-25 Thread Treviño
As said, this is a designed behavior. It's not a bug.

We want it to work in this way. If you don't want this behavior, just
use the tweak tools to get it as you prefer. Problem solved.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2016-04-25 Thread V. K.
@Andreas

The CONFUSION settings manager rather fixed it. Thanks.

@Marco and comment #17

First of all, you're basing on GNOME but breaking the functionality of
it with a random decisions to have a hybrid approach. What on earth for?
If you don't like Alt-` to switch between windows, then remove it
completely in favor of only Alt-Tab. Because if you DO support Alt-`
then support it properly and make a distinction from Alt-Tab, otherwise
what's the purpose of it?

Second, the behavior your describe broke the EXPECTED functionality of
Alt-Tab switching BACK. For example:

1. Open App 1 Window 1
2. Alt-` to App 1 Window 2
3. Alt-Tab (a few times) to (reach) App 2 (window 1)
4. Now Alt-TAB is expected to switch you back to App 1 Window 2, which was the 
PREVIOUS active window, but what it does is it switches to App 1 Window 1  
which is the part that is unexpected, wrong and definitely a bug, still going 
strong in 16.04.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2016-04-25 Thread Andreas Tsourouflis
You have to run Compiz Confusion Settings Manager. You go to Ubuntu
Unity Plugin, then to Switcher tab and you check "Switcher strictly
changes between applications". Problem solved

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2016-04-25 Thread V. K.
What does "Fix Released" mean exactly? I got here because my bug
#1568242 was marked duplicate of this, and yet I have this exact problem
in 16.04. Had it in 15.10 as well.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2015-10-26 Thread Treviño
** Changed in: unity
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2015-04-16 Thread Christopher Townsend
** Changed in: unity/7.2
Milestone: 7.2.5 = 7.2.6

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2015-04-14 Thread Stephen M. Webb
** Changed in: unity
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

** Also affects: unity/7.2
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: unity/7.2
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: unity/7.2
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** Changed in: unity/7.2
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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2015-04-13 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package unity -
7.3.2+15.04.20150410.1-0ubuntu1

---
unity (7.3.2+15.04.20150410.1-0ubuntu1) vivid; urgency=medium

  [ Brandon Schaefer ]
  * When we get a launcher key press (ie. super key). We check if the
command lens is open. If it is then just switch the lens to the home
lens. This way we dont close the dash. (LP: #1108956)

  [ CI Train Bot ]
  * New rebuild forced.

  [ Gerry Boland ]
  * SwitcherController: add first selection mode property, to decide
what to select at first (LP: #998285)

  [ Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ]
  * SwitcherController: add first selection mode property, to decide
what to select at first (LP: #998285)
  * UnityScreen: terminate spread if active when initiating Switcher
(LP: #1412001)

  [ Stephen M. Webb ]
  * (Ubuntu packaging) move the session migration scripts to Python3
(LP: #1440560)
  * fixed the Panel title string expected by Launcher keynav AP tests
(LP: #1435830)
  * test_wm_keybindings: fix AP failures caused by upstream Compiz
change (LP: #1294864)
 -- CI Train Bot ci-train-...@canonical.com   Fri, 10 Apr 2015 21:59:12 +

** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2015-04-03 Thread Christopher Townsend
** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/unity/switcher-first-selection-mode

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2015-03-19 Thread Stephen M. Webb
** Changed in: unity
Milestone: 7.3.2 = 7.3.3

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2015-02-11 Thread Stephen M. Webb
** Changed in: unity
Milestone: 7.3.1 = 7.3.2

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2015-02-04 Thread Treviño
** Changed in: unity
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Gerry Boland (gerboland)

** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Gerry Boland (gerboland)

** Changed in: unity
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

** Changed in: unity
Milestone: None = 7.3.1

** Changed in: unity
   Status: Won't Fix = In Progress

** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
   Status: Won't Fix = In Progress

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2014-08-25 Thread Treviño
** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid = Won't Fix

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2014-08-25 Thread Treviño
FYI, the design has not been defined by unity (code) developers, but by
designers that found that this hybrid behavior is better (and I kinda
agree with them).

Anyway, if you would like to introduce an option to always make the Alt-
Tab to prefer switching to applications, this is possible and patches
welcome (it should be quite easy to do).

Simply, this not an our priority right now.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2014-08-16 Thread Ben Ritter
When Alt+Tab is presented as an application switcher, it MUST ACT AS AN
APPLICATION SWITCHER. /steam from ears

This is how I, Andreas, and I assume most people new to Unity understand the 
Alt+Tab and Alt+` behaviour:
Alt+Tab switches to the previously open application. Alt+` switches to the 
previously open windows within the current application. Multiple invocations of 
either will switch to the second, third, etc. most recent application / window.

The behaviour you are advocating sounds something like this:
Alt+Tab switches to the previously open application. Unless your previous 
window* is from your current application, in which case it will switch to that. 
If you press Alt+Tab twice it you will switch to your second most recent 
application, unless your previous windows is from your current application, in 
which case it will switch to your most recent application, no matter what your 
second most recent window was. Alt+` switches to the previous window...

* Alt+Tab is an application switcher, not a window switcher.

It is utterly bizarre and the cognitive load associated with tracking
how many presses needed to get to each window is ridiculous (and totally
unnecessary). Like Andreas, I was convinced that my setup was exhibiting
some strange bug that I couldn't reproduce that caused Alt+Tab to fail
on unspecified occasions. I've come here today, after years of enduring
it, because it still frustrates me.

This Ask Ubuntu question[1] indicates that ~16000 people are also
surprised by the current behaviour. Over the years, how many of those
visitors do you think saw the only viable answer don't use Unity
switcher and had positive thoughts about Unity? It looks unpolished and
lazy and I'm astounded that there is no change 2 years on, while the
alternatives fall out of the defaults.

(Collective) you must absolutely change the default behaviour and I
implore you to make the change a top priority.


[1] 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/133046/can-i-configure-alt-tab-to-always-switch-applications

P.S. I'm sorry Marco, that it means breaking your workflow but
simplicity must prevail. What you want is a window switcher, not an
application switcher. Your exact workflow can remain supported through
non-default settings though I put to you that unless the behaviour can
be fully explained in one concise sentence, then it doesn't even deserve
a place in the GUI.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2014-08-16 Thread Andreas Tsourouflis
I agree with Ben and I understand why he is angry. However, I don't
think that we should start a dispute about who is right and who is
wrong.

I am pretty sure that the Unity devs had their reasons for introducing
this Alt-Tab behavior. I am also sure that there is a good deal of
people who work with only 3 or 4 windows open and find this switching
method very convenient. However, there is another good deal of people
who work with many windows open and find the Unity switching method very
annoying.  So, nobody is wrong and nobody is cleverer than the other.

Marco, please don't take it personally that I said in some previous
comment that the design was flawed. The flaw does not lie in the choice
the Unity devs made but in assuming that there is only one suitable
switching method for everybody. As a matter of fact, although we users
are grateful to the Unity and Gnome Shell devs for their efforts, our
grudge is that they assume their perceived way of working to be the only
appropriate one. In conclusion, please allow us, simple users, the
option to configure the Alt-Tab behavior and everybody will be happy.

By the way, as regards the use of CSSM, the Unity swither cannot be
fully disabled. If you uncheck the Unity switcher and enable the Static
Application Switcher, when you press Alt+`, the Unity switcher still
appears.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2014-05-20 Thread Sune Woeller
Andreas wrote:

The reason for using shortcuts to switch windows is to do it
automatically and without thought.

This is so right. It is very annoying not to able to predict the
behavior of alt-tab, to do it without thinking about where you were a
few minuttes ago.

It is confusing and slows me down, The only thing I can be sure about is
that the alt-tab behavio is sure to give me the wrong window next time.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2014-05-13 Thread Andreas Tsourouflis
Sorry, Marco, but if this is the intended design, then the design is
flawed.

Unity Alt-Tab behavior breaches the system of using one shortcut for
switching between applcations and another for switching between windows
of the same application.

The reason for using shortcuts to switch windows is to do it
automatically and without thought. If you work in a window for some
time, you cannot remember which was the last window or application you
used. Then, when you attempt to alt-tab switch, the result in Unity will
surprise you most of the time.

I have noticed that, when using Unity, my speed of switching windows
deteriorates, because each time i press Alt-Tab (i.e. after the first
click) I have to pause and see where I have landed. By comparison,
switching between windows in Gnome Shell happens considerably faster,
because there you just click on Alt-Tab, without giving any thought. In
Unity, it goes like that: click, think and then click further. Or worse:
click, wtf and then click further.

Please, allow the option you suggested. It will greatly improve the
Unity experience for some people.

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Re: [Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2014-05-13 Thread Treviño
 Sorry, Marco, but if this is the intended design, then the design is
 flawed.

I don't agree here, but feel free to ping JohnLea on #ubuntu-design
about this.

 Unity Alt-Tab behavior breaches the system of using one shortcut for
 switching between applcations and another for switching between windows
 of the same application.

Well, as I said, Alt-Tab is not intended to be used to switch between
applications only, but also to switch to the last used window of the
previous application (and the previous app and the current app might
match).

 The reason for using shortcuts to switch windows is to do it
 automatically and without thought. If you work in a window for some
 time, you cannot remember which was the last window or application you
 used. Then, when you attempt to alt-tab switch, the result in Unity will
 surprise you most of the time.

Well, I guess this depends a lot on how you're used to work. The
behavior that is requested in this bug would, personally, make my life
harder, since I assume that a single Alt-Tab will always bring me back
to the previous window I used, whatever it was.
So, I think this is mostly a matter of tastes and habits.

 Please, allow the option you suggested. It will greatly improve the
 Unity experience for some people.

Indeed, we can safely support an option like that, so patches very
welcome ;-)

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2014-05-12 Thread Treviño
Sorry, but this is not a bug.

What is described here is the wanted design: unity switcher always selects the 
last used window of the previously used application.
Then, if you were using application A1, then you switch to application B1, a 
single Alt-Tab will move you back to A1. Instead if you move from A1 to A2, 
then a single Alt-Tab must move you back to A1, since the current application 
is the same of the previous one (in this case A = B).

We might accept an option (off by default) that allows to always use the
Alt+Tab to only switch between applications, though.

** Changed in: unity
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** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2014-05-11 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~sergey-trotsyuk/unity/alt-tab-window-switching-fix

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2014-03-30 Thread Andreas Tsourouflis
The problem persists in Ubuntu 14.04 Final Beta. 
This bug appeared in 12.04, therefore I don't think it will ever be fixed. In 
my opinion, this proves that only few people use Alt-Tab to switch windows.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2014-02-16 Thread Mauro Miolo
I hate this bug ... and also Unity if is not fixed :( ...
I also prefer the old classic switcher and change windows basing on 'most 
recent used'.
There is a way restore the old one?

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2014-02-04 Thread Gerry Boland
Annoys me too. My steps to repro:
1. Open 2 instances of QtCreator  one instance of firefox (make all maximized 
for clarity's sake)
2. Alt-Tab away to firefox
3. Alt-Tab to QtCreator1
4. Alt-backtick to QtCreator2
5. Alt-Tab

Expected result
Firefox should be focused window

Actual result
I'm looking at QtCreator1

This behaviour breaks the paradigm of Alt-Tab between applications, and
Alt-` between application windows.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2013-12-06 Thread stef
This issue creeped up on me in 13.10. It's SPER
annoying!!

Let me explain. It's the inconsistency that's the problem. It took me
several month to even conceptionalize why I am subliminally irritated by
Unity.  I use alt-tab and alt-backtick all the time to navigate between
apps and windows. For the most part it works well but after a alt-
backtick the behavior of alt-tab changes. Even after month this is never
what I expect. It's subjectively totally erratic. When I press alt-tab I
always want the previous app. I have this intention a lot. I need a
get me to the previous app key, not a sure back to previous app in
most of the cases key.

I get the idea of focusing on the last window no matter what app it was
from. This feature may be a ok o the alt-backtick key.  It actually
makes a lot of sense there because I almost neve switch between windows
of the same app after switching the app. For this reason take me to the
last window feature would usually not interfer with what I expect the
button does.

I think way more people would complain about this if it wasn't sucha
subliminal annoyance.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2013-08-10 Thread Andreas
Since the last Unity update, the trick with CSSM doesn't work for me any
more.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2013-07-09 Thread Matt Panaro
I may've found a workaround that doesn't depend on installing any other 
packages or switching to gnome:
Keyboard settings, shortcuts, navigation, switch windows of an application
This was set to disabled, despite Alt+` already switching windows of an 
application. I explicitly set it to Alt+`, and now Alt+Tab seems to switch 
to the last used other application, not the last-used other window. Can anyone 
else confirm this works?

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2013-07-09 Thread Gökçen Eraslan
I couldn't make it work on up-to-date Raring.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2013-07-09 Thread Matt Panaro
Should've mentioned I'm on 12.04

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2013-05-02 Thread Gökçen Eraslan
Reproducible on Raring, too.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2012-12-27 Thread Kim Mason
This also occurs in Unity on 12.10, but is much more apparent on my
older (and slower) laptop (Dell Latitude e5510); to the point where the
default alt-tab implementation is frustrating to use. On my new Lenovo
x230, it is much less of a problem.

Sparhawk's ccsm work-around fixes it on 12.10 for me as well.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2012-05-16 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2012-05-16 Thread Urustu
I found the solution on this site:
http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/gnome-shell

Alt+Tab: passer d'une fenêtre à une autre (proche fonction classique).
Alt+Shift+Tab: idem, mais dans l'autre sens.
Alt+²: idem mais entre les fenêtre d'une même application.

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2012-05-16 Thread Sparhawk
Urustu, do you mean stop using Unity and use Gnome-shell?

Also, I've happened upon a workaround while still using Unity. Install
ccsm, then deselect Desktop  Ubuntu Unity Plugin  Switcher 
Automatically grid windows on timer in switcher. You might need to run
$ unity --replace, but I can select or deselect this setting and the
alt-tab behaviour changes accordingly. It's a bit funny that this
setting should have this side-effect, as it's not directly related.

(Turning on this setting does the following. When holding onto alt-tab,
if you hover over an application icon with multiple windows open, after
a short time the window thumbnails are exposed. If this setting is off,
then alt-tab only shows the application icon.)

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[Bug 998285] Re: Tapping alt-tab switches between windows of the same application sometimes

2012-05-11 Thread Sparhawk
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