Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2011-10-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 06:49:14PM -, ingo wrote:
 Steve Langasek (vorlon)  wrote on 2011-10-25:

  And there are a number of other plymouth bugs present that are higher-impact
  than this one, so it is unlikely that this bug will receive further
  attention for 10.04.

 That's true for sure. With this in mind it is definitely a shame that
 Canonical tries to prevent users from un-installing plymouth by
 artificially setting plymouth as dependency for mountall.

It is not an artificial dependency.  *mountall cannot communicate with the
user without plymouth.*  There must be some framework for multiplexing
boot-time I/O in order to let packages like mountall communicate with the
user, and that framework is plymouth.  There aren't even any other
contenders in the field.

And your persistent sniping here about Ubuntu design decisions is an
inappropriate use of the bug system.  Please stop.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2011-10-25 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 25/10/2011 21:31, queo wrote:
 Please, are there any updates on this issue?
 The bug is open since 2010-04-29!
 I'm using Linux Mint Isadora 64bit and 32bit, both are having the same bugs.
 Please update the Status to Won't fix!!!
 

But it's fixed in Ubuntu Oneiric.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2011-10-25 Thread Alexey Loukianov
25.10.2011 18:38, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
 
 But it's fixed in Ubuntu Oneiric.
 

And what does it change with regards to Linux Mint 9 Isadora users? Who cares if
this bug was fixed in some fresh-n-shiny Ubuntu and/or Mint release while it is
still not fixed in so-called Long Term Support version of Linux Mint? And - to
be honest - I still occasionally hit this bug on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS despite the
fact that it had been marked as fixed for Ubuntu months ago. Released fix
had only changed the frequency this bug happens: before fix I've been hitting
this bug every time I force my system to do fsck on next boot. After the fix I
hit this bug about once in 4-5 fsck-enabled reboots. Better than nothing but
still smells like crap.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2011-10-25 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 25/10/2011 22:59, queo wrote:
 Dear Loong Jin,
 
 thanks for your reply.
 I always thought there is a support for 3 years for LTS releases (Ubuntu 
 10.04 is LTS).
 Do I have  the wrong information here?
 
 Best regards,
 Kurt
 

Sorry, let me correct myself. It's been fixed from lucid-updates all the way up
to oneiric, and I have not experienced this ever since the fix landed in
lucid-updates. That said, I had no part in the creation of the patch that fixed
this bug, and don't have a clear idea on what's going wrong where. And I don't
use Linux Mint, so I have no idea what's going wrong there either.

The status of the bug is correct -- it's fixed in mountall on Ubuntu, and
mountall in Lucid (via lucid-updates). If it's still broken in Linux Mint, then
open a task there and set it to the appropriate status. There is no reason to
demand that the Fix released status in Ubuntu be changed to Won't Fix when
it clearly has been fixed over here.

So to sum it all up in a nutshell, it's all fixed on Ubuntu, but not fixed on
Linux Mint, so obviously something went wrong somewhere in porting the fix from
Ubuntu to Mint, so please stop blaming Canonical or Ubuntu for not paying
attention to this bug report. If you need someone to badger about this bug
occurring in Mint, find a Mint developer.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 05:42:18PM -, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
 The status of the bug is correct -- it's fixed in mountall on Ubuntu, and
 mountall in Lucid (via lucid-updates). If it's still broken in Linux Mint, 
 then
 open a task there and set it to the appropriate status. There is no reason to
 demand that the Fix released status in Ubuntu be changed to Won't Fix when
 it clearly has been fixed over here.

 So to sum it all up in a nutshell, it's all fixed on Ubuntu, but not fixed on
 Linux Mint, so obviously something went wrong somewhere in porting the fix 
 from
 Ubuntu to Mint, so please stop blaming Canonical or Ubuntu for not paying
 attention to this bug report. If you need someone to badger about this bug
 occurring in Mint, find a Mint developer.

There is a task for Linux Mint on this bug already, and its status has been
set to 'fix released' by a Mint developer, apparently on the basis that the
lucid-updates version of mountall was copied into Linux Mint 9.  I believe
it's the status of *this* task that the Mint users are concerned with.
Unfortunately, the Launchpad bug workflow doesn't make this at all clear.
(I think for this reason it might be better for derivatives to use separate
bugs for tracking issues, instead of tasks on Ubuntu bugs.)

There are also comments that the bug is still reproducible with 10.04 with
much lower frequency.  This may be true; when this bug was being worked on,
the analysis was that there was still a bug in plymouth here, just one with
much less user impact now that the mountall side has been fixed.  However
(as you know, but it appears the users subscribed to this bug do not), LTS
does not mean that all bugs reported against that release will be fixed; it
means that security support, upgrade support, and commercial support are
provided, and that bugfixes will be made on a best-effort basis.

And there are a number of other plymouth bugs present that are higher-impact
than this one, so it is unlikely that this bug will receive further
attention for 10.04.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2011-08-24 Thread Mr. Aljoriz Dublin
Oddly this was fixed in Ubuntu 10.4.2 and its sub-sequent releases.  Mint
maintains that the bug lies upstream.  Oh wth I'm using LMDE now

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:34 PM, queo 571...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 this fix doesn't work

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 Title:
  fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

 Status in The Linux Mint Distribution:
  Fix Released
 Status in “mountall” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
 Status in “plymouth” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
 Status in “mountall” source package in Lucid:
  Fix Released
 Status in “plymouth” source package in Lucid:
  Triaged

 Bug description:
  PROBLEM

  When a disk check is performed, the progress stalls somewhere around
  70% and will then take a very long time finishing the remaining
  percent (10 minutes or more).

  PATCH

  Patch for mountall has now been pushed as an update for Lucid, if you
  are still seeing this problem, make sure you have mountall 2.15
  installed before commenting/reporting a new bug.

  [Earlier patch comments:]
  Tero Mononen has published a patch for Bug #553745 which applies to the
 issue described here as well (see
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/553745/comments/76and
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/553745/comments/77)

  I have created corresponding packages which are available through my
  PPA: https://launchpad.net/~arand/+archive/unstable

  !!!Do note that this is an unofficial, untested, preliminary patch!!!
  However testing and feedback is welcome, please especially report if there
 are ANY (new) problems seen when using the patched version.

  TEST CASE:

  (sudo aptitude install bootchart)
  sudo touch /forcefsck  sudo reboot

  POSSIBLE TEMPORARY WORKAROUNDS

  1. Removing quiet and splash from the kernel boot line

  2. When the progress has stalled, switch away from the splash screen
  using the left arrowkey (presumably any arrowkey works).

  * Both these approaches speeds up the boot process to ~1 minute
  instead.

  OBSERVATIONS

  The fsck message (...) non-contiguous (...) Which I assume indicates
  the end of the fsck, is printed in the Virtual Terminal (outside
  plymouth) at around 70% + ~10-20 seconds.

  Disk activity is null from this point on (presumed end of fsck above).

  Bootchart crashes if trying to catch the whole boot at once with
  plymouth (at least for my 1h boot).

  This problem seems to occur in both plymouthd and mountall,
 semi-simultaneously:
  If you are in the plymouth screen, plymouthd is the cpu-gobbler, if you
 switch away from it using the arrow keys, mountall instead takes over the
 cpu-eating.

  #

  ORIGINAL REPORT

  Binary package hint: mountall

  On my system when fsck runs at boot plymouth % completion count goes
  up quickly (10 seconds) up to about 80% and then slows down
  considerably: the complete fsck of my 125GB HD, 30% full takes more
  than 5 minutes.

  While this goes on the text VTs are all completely blank: just a
  blinking cursor.

  An fsck from a recovery disk completes in ~10 seconds so it doesn't
  look like fsck just being slow.

  This slowdown was *not* happening on 2010-04-14 with the PPA described
  by this comment:

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/554737/comments/25

  The fix in the PPA is now in the mainline lucid but somewhere in
  between then and today (2010-04-29) something introduced this
  slowdown.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
  Package: mountall 2.14
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-21.32-generic 2.6.32.11+drm33.2
  Uname: Linux 2.6.32-21-generic i686
  NonfreeKernelModules: wl
  Architecture: i386
  Date: Thu Apr 29 15:38:56 2010
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx - Beta i386 (20100317.1)
  ProcEnviron:
   LANGUAGE=en_IE:en_GB:en
   PATH=(custom, user)
   LANG=en_IE.utf8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: mountall

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2011-08-22 Thread ingo
On 22.08.2011 17:31, queo wrote:
 Is there any help available regarding this bug please??
 It is open since 2010-04-29 (!)

Here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - works reliably.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2011-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from ingo's message of Mon Aug 22 16:07:50 UTC 2011:
 On 22.08.2011 17:31, queo wrote:
  Is there any help available regarding this bug please??
  It is open since 2010-04-29 (!)
 
 Here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - works reliably.
 

Bug reports are for helping developers fix and/or prioritize bugs,
including dialog with affected users. Ingo, if you are no longer affected,
and/or have nothing constructive to add,  please refrain from posting
comments.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-11-15 Thread Richard Postlewait
Well pardon me. I'm sorry for the wrong info. I just know what took place on
my system. So until you have walked in my shoes, you need to keep your
attitude and that I know all bull crap to yourself.  So cancel my account,
who really cares. Its just a linux distro, life still goes on.

On Nov 14, 2010 3:32 PM, Chow Loong Jin hyper...@ubuntu.com wrote:

On Monday 15,November,2010 01:38 AM, Richard Postlewait wrote:
 I can't answer that one; sorry. I ...
No, I don't believe this issue is present in Ubuntu any longer, see this
bug's
status on mountall, which was flooding plymouth with events. All the recent
noise here was caused by Mint users and Mint users alone. Please Get The
Facts™
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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-11-15 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Tuesday 16,November,2010 12:17 AM, Richard Postlewait wrote:
 Well pardon me. I'm sorry for the wrong info. I just know what took place on
 my system. So until you have walked in my shoes, you need to keep your
 attitude and that I know all bull crap to yourself.  So cancel my account,
 who really cares. Its just a linux distro, life still goes on.

Don't get me wrong. Nobody's interested in cancelling your account. I just
requested that you try your best to keep the spreading of misinformation to a
minimum.

My issue was with how you phrased If I'm not mistaken, Ubuntu still has the
same problem. If you don't know, please don't pretend that you have an idea. It
was pretty much that comment there that sparked the whole bunch of scathing
false accusations about Ubuntu not bothering to fix serious bugs within
reasonable time for its LTS releases.

If it was not your intention to cause this situation, then I genuinely am sorry
for lashing out at you like that. Otherwise, please find better uses of your
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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-11-15 Thread Alexey Loukianov
16.11.2010 00:25, ingo wrote:
 The logical way to solve this issues/bugs would
 be to purge plymouth and set up a good functional system.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it is perfectly possible to get rid of plymouth in
initramfs and following boot process by simply not installing plymouth themes
packages. Yes, it might require to delete metapackages like mint-meta-*, but I
don't see much trouble in having them uninstalled anyway because the default set
of packages that Mint tends to install is far from minimal set required to get
a slim linux installation perfectly fitting the normal office workstation
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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-11-14 Thread Richard Postlewait
It's fixed in Mint 10.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Andreas Jürgens
571...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote:

 Hello,

 this Bug is nearly 7 month old and I can't understand, why it is not
 fixed for LM 9.

 Regards
 Andreas

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 Status in The Linux Mint Distribution: New
 Status in “mountall” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
 Status in “plymouth” package in Ubuntu: Triaged
 Status in “mountall” source package in Lucid: Fix Released
 Status in “plymouth” source package in Lucid: Triaged

 Bug description:
 PROBLEM

 When a disk check is performed, the progress stalls somewhere around 70%
 and will then take a very long time finishing the remaining percent (10
 minutes or more).

 PATCH

 Patch for mountall has now been pushed as an update for Lucid, if you are
 still seeing this problem, make sure you have mountall 2.15 installed before
 commenting/reporting a new bug.

 [Earlier patch comments:]
 Tero Mononen has published a patch for Bug #553745 which applies to the
 issue described here as well (see
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/553745/comments/76and
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/553745/comments/77)

 I have created corresponding packages which are available through my PPA:
 https://launchpad.net/~arand/+archive/unstable

 !!!Do note that this is an unofficial, untested, preliminary patch!!!
 However testing and feedback is welcome, please especially report if there
 are ANY (new) problems seen when using the patched version.

 TEST CASE:

 (sudo aptitude install bootchart)
 sudo touch /forcefsck  sudo reboot

 POSSIBLE TEMPORARY WORKAROUNDS

 1. Removing quiet and splash from the kernel boot line

 2. When the progress has stalled, switch away from the splash screen using
 the left arrowkey (presumably any arrowkey works).

 * Both these approaches speeds up the boot process to ~1 minute instead.

 OBSERVATIONS

 The fsck message (...) non-contiguous (...) Which I assume indicates the
 end of the fsck, is printed in the Virtual Terminal (outside plymouth) at
 around 70% + ~10-20 seconds.

 Disk activity is null from this point on (presumed end of fsck above).

 Bootchart crashes if trying to catch the whole boot at once with plymouth
 (at least for my 1h boot).

 This problem seems to occur in both plymouthd and mountall,
 semi-simultaneously:
 If you are in the plymouth screen, plymouthd is the cpu-gobbler, if you
 switch away from it using the arrow keys, mountall instead takes over the
 cpu-eating.

 #

 ORIGINAL REPORT

 Binary package hint: mountall

 On my system when fsck runs at boot plymouth % completion count goes up
 quickly (10 seconds) up to about 80% and then slows down considerably: the
 complete fsck of my 125GB HD, 30% full takes more than 5 minutes.

 While this goes on the text VTs are all completely blank: just a blinking
 cursor.

 An fsck from a recovery disk completes in ~10 seconds so it doesn't look
 like fsck just being slow.

 This slowdown was *not* happening on 2010-04-14 with the PPA described by
 this comment:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/554737/comments/25

 The fix in the PPA is now in the mainline lucid but somewhere in between
 then and today (2010-04-29) something introduced this slowdown.

 ProblemType: Bug
 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
 Package: mountall 2.14
 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-21.32-generic 2.6.32.11+drm33.2
 Uname: Linux 2.6.32-21-generic i686
 NonfreeKernelModules: wl
 Architecture: i386
 Date: Thu Apr 29 15:38:56 2010
 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx - Beta i386 (20100317.1)
 ProcEnviron:
  LANGUAGE=en_IE:en_GB:en
  PATH=(custom, user)
  LANG=en_IE.utf8
  SHELL=/bin/bash
 SourcePackage: mountall



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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-11-14 Thread Richard Postlewait
I can't answer that one; sorry.  I just know it's fixed inMint 10, cause it
came up on my system the other day, took like maybe 3 to 5 minutes at the
most. Then it finished booting. I tried Ubuntu 10.10, before Mint 10 RC came
out. If I'm not mistaken Ubuntu still has the same problem.lol Mint's just
an awsome distro, you can't do better than mint.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Andreas Jürgens 571...@bugs.launchpad.net
 wrote:

 Thanks for the answer and why not in Mint 9, because a lot of users will
 work with Mint 9 till ending support in 2013?

 I am one of it. ;)

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 Status in “plymouth” package in Ubuntu: Triaged
 Status in “mountall” source package in Lucid: Fix Released
 Status in “plymouth” source package in Lucid: Triaged

 Bug description:
 PROBLEM

 When a disk check is performed, the progress stalls somewhere around 70%
 and will then take a very long time finishing the remaining percent (10
 minutes or more).

 PATCH

 Patch for mountall has now been pushed as an update for Lucid, if you are
 still seeing this problem, make sure you have mountall 2.15 installed before
 commenting/reporting a new bug.

 [Earlier patch comments:]
 Tero Mononen has published a patch for Bug #553745 which applies to the
 issue described here as well (see
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/553745/comments/76and
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/553745/comments/77)

 I have created corresponding packages which are available through my PPA:
 https://launchpad.net/~arand/+archive/unstable

 !!!Do note that this is an unofficial, untested, preliminary patch!!!
 However testing and feedback is welcome, please especially report if there
 are ANY (new) problems seen when using the patched version.

 TEST CASE:

 (sudo aptitude install bootchart)
 sudo touch /forcefsck  sudo reboot

 POSSIBLE TEMPORARY WORKAROUNDS

 1. Removing quiet and splash from the kernel boot line

 2. When the progress has stalled, switch away from the splash screen using
 the left arrowkey (presumably any arrowkey works).

 * Both these approaches speeds up the boot process to ~1 minute instead.

 OBSERVATIONS

 The fsck message (...) non-contiguous (...) Which I assume indicates the
 end of the fsck, is printed in the Virtual Terminal (outside plymouth) at
 around 70% + ~10-20 seconds.

 Disk activity is null from this point on (presumed end of fsck above).

 Bootchart crashes if trying to catch the whole boot at once with plymouth
 (at least for my 1h boot).

 This problem seems to occur in both plymouthd and mountall,
 semi-simultaneously:
 If you are in the plymouth screen, plymouthd is the cpu-gobbler, if you
 switch away from it using the arrow keys, mountall instead takes over the
 cpu-eating.

 #

 ORIGINAL REPORT

 Binary package hint: mountall

 On my system when fsck runs at boot plymouth % completion count goes up
 quickly (10 seconds) up to about 80% and then slows down considerably: the
 complete fsck of my 125GB HD, 30% full takes more than 5 minutes.

 While this goes on the text VTs are all completely blank: just a blinking
 cursor.

 An fsck from a recovery disk completes in ~10 seconds so it doesn't look
 like fsck just being slow.

 This slowdown was *not* happening on 2010-04-14 with the PPA described by
 this comment:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/554737/comments/25

 The fix in the PPA is now in the mainline lucid but somewhere in between
 then and today (2010-04-29) something introduced this slowdown.

 ProblemType: Bug
 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
 Package: mountall 2.14
 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-21.32-generic 2.6.32.11+drm33.2
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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-11-14 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Monday 15,November,2010 01:38 AM, Richard Postlewait wrote:
 I can't answer that one; sorry.  I just know it's fixed inMint 10, cause it
 came up on my system the other day, took like maybe 3 to 5 minutes at the
 most. Then it finished booting. I tried Ubuntu 10.10, before Mint 10 RC came
 out. If I'm not mistaken Ubuntu still has the same problem.lol Mint's just
 an awsome distro, you can't do better than mint.

No, I don't believe this issue is present in Ubuntu any longer, see this bug's
status on mountall, which was flooding plymouth with events. All the recent
noise here was caused by Mint users and Mint users alone. Please Get The Facts™
before posting next time.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-11-14 Thread Alexey Loukianov
14.11.2010 19:59, Richard Postlewait wrote:
 It's fixed in Mint 10.
 

Awesome! Then why the hell is this bug not fixed in latest LTS release? Regular
one-year support releases are just a toys for home linux users while corporate
one tend to use LTS releases for production use. And the fact that the major bug
in LTS release wasn't fixed for months and when a new toy release comes out it
happens that the bug is fixed in it while still being present in LTS release
gives a very good reason to reconsider using something like CentOS/RHEL instead
of Ubuntu/Mint LTS in production environment.

Will take this in account in the future consulting my clients.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-11-14 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Monday 15,November,2010 04:42 AM, Alexey Loukianov wrote:
 14.11.2010 19:59, Richard Postlewait wrote:
 It's fixed in Mint 10.

 
 Awesome! Then why the hell is this bug not fixed in latest LTS release? 
 Regular
 one-year support releases are just a toys for home linux users while 
 corporate
 one tend to use LTS releases for production use. And the fact that the major 
 bug
 in LTS release wasn't fixed for months and when a new toy release comes out 
 it
 happens that the bug is fixed in it while still being present in LTS release
 gives a very good reason to reconsider using something like CentOS/RHEL 
 instead
 of Ubuntu/Mint LTS in production environment.
 
 Will take this in account in the future consulting my clients.
 

Status in “mountall” source package in Lucid: Fix Released

Again, Get The Facts™. I don't care what Mint LTS does, but Ubuntu LTS has it
fixed, so please don't confuse the two again.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-11-14 Thread Alexey Loukianov
15.11.2010 00:11, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
 Status in “mountall” source package in Lucid: Fix Released
 
 Again, Get The Facts™. I don't care what Mint LTS does, but Ubuntu LTS has it
 fixed, so please don't confuse the two again.
 

Thanks for pointing out on this. So, what is the _real_ current status for this
bug? I know how does it behave in Linux Mint 9 LTS (bug is still there). But
what about Ubuntu 10.04 LTS? I've seen reports here that it is still not fixed
too (most recent was by Richard Postlewait). So whom too believe?

P.S. Needless to say that an argument that it took a way to long to fix it in
Ubuntu (in case it is really fixed) still counts. And another thing to note: Get
The Facts™, this bug is not about Ubuntu only. So I don't care if you care about
what Mint LTS does - this bug applies to Mint LTS so all people here blaming
about have got all rights and reasons to do so.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-11-14 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Monday 15,November,2010 05:43 AM, ingo wrote:
 Status in “mountall” source package in Lucid: Fix Released
 
 But when - too late!
 
 Such things happen when releases are time based instead of when it's
 done. What is a LTS-release worth when takes months to become ready for
 use.They are almost done approximately with second point release, so
 remaining sevice period is by far less then advertised.

The bug was reported on 2010-04-29. When was Lucid released? 2010-04-29. Given
the complexity of this bug, as you would have discovered if you had actually
read through the original comments, it was not an easy one to identify. When did
it get fixed *in Lucid*? 2010-05-09. That's 10 days after release. Ten days for
a tough bug like this one. I believe we deserve a little credit.

Then Mint appears, without deploying our patched packages properly, and a whole
bunch of Mint users come here to complain that Mint doesn't work, and blame
Ubuntu for it, and then talk about Mint's superiority. Oh, the irony. Thank you
for trolling, guys. That was fun, wasn't it?

 Why is Mint considering a Debian-based version?

Hell if I know, and I don't give a damn. Maybe some other Ubuntu developers do,
but I don't. Mint can do whatever they want.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-11-14 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Monday 15,November,2010 08:54 AM, Alexey Loukianov wrote:
 15.11.2010 00:11, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
 Status in “mountall” source package in Lucid: Fix Released

 Again, Get The Facts™. I don't care what Mint LTS does, but Ubuntu LTS has it
 fixed, so please don't confuse the two again.

 
 Thanks for pointing out on this. So, what is the _real_ current status for 
 this
 bug? I know how does it behave in Linux Mint 9 LTS (bug is still there). But
 what about Ubuntu 10.04 LTS? I've seen reports here that it is still not fixed
 too (most recent was by Richard Postlewait). So whom too believe?

Well, given that it is a pretty noticeable bug, and a very annoying one when you
notice it, and that the only users complaining about this bug now are Mint
users, I would believe that Ubuntu has it fixed, even in 10.04 LTS, but perhaps
not in Mint.

And Ubuntu 10.04 LTS had it fixed since May 9th, which is 10 days after release,
and also 10 days after this bug was reported (it was reported on release date).

 P.S. Needless to say that an argument that it took a way to long to fix it in
 Ubuntu (in case it is really fixed) still counts.

10 days is too long? Really? If you used Ubuntu, you should have only
encountered this once, if at all, since fsck only happens every 30 days or after
a set number of mounts I can't remember. Unless you do reboot your computer that
many times in a day..

 And another thing to note: Get The Facts™, this bug is not about Ubuntu only.
 So I don't care if you care about what Mint LTS does - this bug applies to
 Mint LTS so all people here blaming about have got all rights and reasons to
 do so.

Then you can use this as basis to report about Mint's failures to your clients,
but please keep in mind that Ubuntu is not Mint.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-11-14 Thread Alexey Loukianov
15.11.2010 06:14, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
 10 days is too long? Really? 
 
If it was really fixed in that 10 days and all people reporting here blaming
Ubuntu are in reality just hadn't installed fresh updates or are using Mint
instead then it was fast enough to call it good level of support. If not -
it's a shame for Ubuntu. And it is certainly a shame for Mint that this bug is
still unfixed.

 Then you can use this as basis to report about Mint's failures to your 
 clients,
 but please keep in mind that Ubuntu is not Mint.
 
It is certainly not. As for clients - unfortunately they prefer working
workstations instead of reports about Mint's failures. About half of linux
installations in production environment I've done last year were based on Mint
LTS (rest were CentOS 5 based). Looking at the history of this bug I would
reconsider to use Ubuntu instead of Mint in a near future, probably switching to
the CentOS 6 as soon as it would be released.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-10-11 Thread Richard Postlewait
Have switched to Ubuntu 10.10. No issues at all. Thanks. I wasn't having the
problems your listing anyway.

On Oct 11, 2010 9:22 AM, papukaija 571...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

@axel: That issue is not probably related to this bug, and can even be
related to your graphic card driver or plymouth (you did not mention
whether you see the pink background with Ubuntu logo correctly or not).
Please open a new bug (if you can't find an bug for that already) for
your issue since this bug is fixed nearly half year ago.


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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-05-10 Thread Barry Drake
On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 10:53 +, Michael Hampson wrote:
 @ Sitsofe Wheeler, Steve Langasek etc: you are, of course, heroes all.

Can I add my praise??  I've done a bit of development and know how time
consuming and exasperating debugging can be.  I've been following the
process and am sooo impressed.  Congratulations and a very heartfelt
thank-you.


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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-05-10 Thread Mike.lifeguard
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 I see a slow down at 95%

I'm pretty sure that's normal
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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-05-09 Thread Steve Langasek
Michael,

On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 02:34:30PM -, Michael Hampson wrote:
 Further to the immediately preceding post, as an experiment, I forced
 fsck on my one-year-old Acer Aspire One Atom-based Netbook with fresh
 10.04 install. It has *exactly* the same bug: the check slows to snail's
 pace, and C doesn't cancel. You could hardly find two more diverse
 machines with the same error. This really should be being taken *very*
 seriously. 9.04 and 9.10 were both brilliant on the netbook.

This *is* being taken seriously, a candidate fix has already been pushed to
the lucid-proposed archive.  You are welcome to help with testing this fix
following the directions in comment #86.  Otherwise, you can wait for the
fix to be available in lucid-updates, which will happen in a few days once
we are confident that no regressions have been introduced with this change.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-05-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:34:07PM -, Anders Kaseorg wrote:
 Sure.

 ** Patch added: mountall_2.14_lp571707.debdiff
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47964636/mountall_2.14_lp571707.debdiff

This patch doesn't apply cleanly against the current bzr branch (which
happens to already have a fsck_progress member added by Scott in a pending
change), but the overall idea is sound.  I've fixed up the patch and will
put it through its paces here, and submit to SRU if it checks out.  Thanks!

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-05-07 Thread Barry Drake
I've been at a conference and only had time last night to look at the
patched binaries.  I installed the patched mountall, but both
libplymouth and plymouth i386 binaries that I got were faulty (looking
inside the packages, the two executables were only 20 bytes).  Taking a
fresh download got the same thing.

Out of curiosity, I forced fsck on boot, and was surprised that it
worked OK.

Summary: mountall=installed  !plymouth=installed == !bug

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-05-07 Thread Barry Drake
On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 10:28 +, arand wrote:
 I do not see that, when downloading the .deb files I get e.g. ~54k for the 
 plymouthd executable, so that sounds like some kind of corruption in the 
 download on your side, I think.

Just tried again from:
https://edge.launchpad.net/~arand/+archive/unstable/+build/1715057 after
deleting the previous packages.  Still cannot install plymouth.  Have
tried in various ways including the gui pachkage manager.  One of the
command I tried gives:
ba...@netbook:~/Downloads$ aptitude install -S
plymouth_0.8.2-2ubuntu3~ppa1_i386.deb
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information   
Initialising package states... Error!
E: Unable to parse package file plymouth_0.8.2-2ubuntu3~ppa1_i386.deb
(1)

You are right - the plymouthd executable is 54k.  I was tired and
looking at the wrong file.  Sorry.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-05-03 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Monday 03,May,2010 06:49 PM, D J Eddyshaw wrote:
 Interesting thought that this could be related to upgrading from Karmic
 rather than a fresh install. Both my machines suffer from the problem
 and were upgraded, for what it's worth. How about everyone else?
 
I think if you read some of the comments made before yours, you'll notice that
there was a fresh install test case which suffered from this problem as well.

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-05-03 Thread frnstefano
hwinfo --bios | grep Socket requires root permission to produce the
output.

Fabio Marzocca try using sudo hwinfo --bios | grep Socket

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Re: [Bug 571707] Re: fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU

2010-05-03 Thread Barry Drake
On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 13:34 +, letstrynl wrote:
 People, can everyone (with or without problems) run the two hwinfo
 commands mentioned (with grep please) , so we can see if there's a
 connection between hardware and the behavior of plymouth ?

I looked at this, and hwinfo doesn't seem to exist on my netbook.  I
looked at installing it, but is seems to be asking for a crazy amount of
drive space that I actually don't have.  I only have 8 Gig on this
little netbook.  Dell Inspiron Mini 10v - 8Gig SSD

I do have the problem.  Will the output from lshw help?  If so, do you
want that piped through grep?  Please give the command you would like
and I'll run it.

BTW - this morning, fsck was forced automatically.  I pressed an arrow
key when it stalled, and the process completed in  1min.

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