Re: Easier access to all applications system preferences in Unity

2011-09-12 Thread Didier Roche

Le 10/09/2011 15:37, Mikko Ohtamaa a écrit :

Hi,

I am just test driving Ubuntu 11.10 beta 1. This is my first time
using Unity heavily, so I hope to have fresh pair of eyeballs here. I
also have some background in usability, so I hope I could document my
little frustrating story trying find settings in 11.10 for the first
time.

I found it very difficult to find (for the first time) and access
(attempt n  1) for all application and system preferences

All application path is not obvious in Dash
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I think I can divide the proble to parts

* Dash icon is unclear (users will learn this)

* Click Dash icon does not instantly bring up all applications but you
still have to enable it by clicking the label

* Filtering etc. on All applications view is currently very
confusing. Either filter bar should be open by default or should not
take permanent space (it could be a tick box pop-up)

* Also for subsequest accesses you need to again click all apps icon
and again installed apps and again turn on filtering pane etc.
many many clicks

I would suggest to add a separate view in Dash just for all
applications + filters. No recently used, no download more. There is
plenty of space in Dash icon bar for this.

This way 1) user would find applications easier when need to access
first time (one time use case, like settings) 2)  The usage context
which applications are on my computer and which are suggested
installed by Dash and would be more clear

I filed a bug report here, but it is little unclear because I didn't
know the right concept words for new UI parts:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/846374

The bug report quality is not very great and it could be divided to
several feature requests after discussion.

System settings


I tried to access them through Dash. However, I later found out about
the user menu short cut (Mac style, had to Google for it).

I desperately tried filtering options in Dash / app applications page,
but it is little confusing. Maybe just show one System preferences
there and all other preference panes would be accessible only through
main System preferences window?

Maybe old style toolbox icon for the settings should be visible on
the all applications page?



Hey Mikko,
Thanks for testing the new Ubuntu beta and for all those remarks on Unity.

The Ubuntu destkop team is mostly integrating Unity and other components 
on Ubuntu, the real upstream and design work is done by the ubuntu 
design team and the ubuntu dx team which aren't subscribed to this list 
for most of them.
I think your useful feedback should be posted on the ayatana mailing 
list (as per http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/) to reach directly the 
right people.

Your bug report is understandable and that's the important part. :)

Thanks again for your feedback,
Regards,
Didier
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Déjà Dup Testing

2011-09-12 Thread Michael Terry
Hello!  I'd appreciate it if desktop-interested folks could help stress 
test Déjà Dup.


Ideally, you'd use it configured to:
 * Use Ubuntu One as the backup location
 * Run in Unity
 * Set it to back up a largish amount of files that you don't 
particularly care about


In addition to backing up, I'd like people to especially test 
restoring.  Both a full restore via gnome-control-center panel and 
individual file restore via right click in nautilus.


There are some known bugs:
 * Widget spacing is a little wonky right now, fixed in trunk
 * You may get SSL timeouts to Ubuntu One: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deja-dup/+bug/844369
 * Automatic backup launcher icon can't be clicked: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/732997


Thanks all,
-mt

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Language Chooser at Login 3: The Choosening (or: Keyboard Selector)

2011-09-12 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
Rovanion in #ubuntu-devel brought to me a problem that's related to the
lack of language selector - we also don't have a keyboard selector.  I
don't think I've seen this discussed before, and I think it should be
addressed.

The problem description here is:
You have a multi-user system with multiple keymaps.  This could be
dvorak/qwerty, or latin/cyrillic is apparently common.  Different users
can then have passwords using different keymaps, which means that
unity-greeter needs to be able to understand this.

Either unity-greeter would need to cache each user's keymap and
automatically switch keymap for the password field, or use something
like the keyboard indicator in the greeter.


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