Re: CFT: ClickPad support

[Bryce Harrington]

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 01:58:11PM -0800, Chase Douglas wrote:
> I've spent some time working on making "ClickPad" trackpads work better.
> I have put the end result up at ppa:chasedouglas/clickpad. I would like
> some testing feedback for the changes.
> 
> In this context, a "ClickPad" is any touchpad with buttons integrated
> into the touch surface. This includes many variations of Synaptics
> trackpads and all the multitouch Apple trackpads. However, not all
> devices are detected as clickpads by the kernel, so you may need to
> manually override the clickpad detection.
> 
> I have attached two scripts. The first enables clickpad support, and the
> second enables a "right button area" in the lower right corner of the
> trackpad. The 'right button area" should overlap with the right button
> area painted on some ClickPads. You are free to enable or disable it as
> you wish.
> 
> The scripts require the device name or id as the first argument. You can
> query the device name and id by running "xinput list".
> 
> So what does this do?
> 
> * You can now perform click-and-drag with two separate fingers
> * With the right button area enabled, a button press in the area will
>   fire a right button press instead of a left button press
> * Click actions are possible, but they are an advanced feature I don't
>   want to support yet by detailing them here
> 
> If we get good feedback on this, then I would like to push it into
> Precise. I also want to add a checkbox to the mouse settings preferences
> to enable the right button area too.
> 
> Thanks for testing!
> 
> -- Chase

Tested on my dell mini netbook.

Doubletap on the right button area functions as a right click.  It seems
to work as I'd expect.  Single-tap on the main pad area appears to work
as single left click (and double-tap here works as double left click).
Single-tap on the left button area doesn't appear to do anything.

Mouse movement does not work if two fingers are touching the pad.
Depressing the left button with one finger and moving the second will
initiate a drag action but the mouse pointer does not move; IOW drag and
drop is broken.  I could not get click-and-drag with two separate
fingers to function.

HTH,
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Re: CFT: ClickPad support

[Chase Douglas]

On 02/13/2012 11:56 PM, Kristian Kißling wrote:
> Chase Douglas schrieb folgendes am 12.02.2012 19:56:
>> On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Chris Van Hoof  wrote:
>>
> Hey Chase,
> 
> thanks a lot, thats a good thing! This morning I thought it should be
> easier to work with Ubuntu when you forget your external mouse :)
> 
> Your scripts work, but there are some glitches. Context menus only show
> up if I touch specific points in the upper area of the "right button
> area". If I use the lower area, nothing happens, but I guess you know
> that already. If you need more feedback and data, drop me a line.

How big (in height % of overall touchpad) is the lower area where right
click doesn't work? Some of these trackpads produce locations outside of
the reported max and min values. I wonder if where you are clicking is
above the maximum in the Y direction (Y coordinates are from top to bottom).

Is that the only glitch you see?

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Re: CFT: ClickPad support

[Kristian Kißling]

Chase Douglas schrieb folgendes am 12.02.2012 19:56:
> On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Chris Van Hoof  wrote:
> 
Hey Chase,

thanks a lot, thats a good thing! This morning I thought it should be
easier to work with Ubuntu when you forget your external mouse :)

Your scripts work, but there are some glitches. Context menus only show
up if I touch specific points in the upper area of the "right button
area". If I use the lower area, nothing happens, but I guess you know
that already. If you need more feedback and data, drop me a line.

br
Kristian

>> On 02/11/2012 04:58 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've spent some time working on making "ClickPad" trackpads work better.
>>> I have put the end result up at ppa:chasedouglas/clickpad. I would like
>>> some testing feedback for the changes.
>>>
>>> In this context, a "ClickPad" is any touchpad with buttons integrated
>>> into the touch surface. This includes many variations of Synaptics
>>> trackpads and all the multitouch Apple trackpads. However, not all
>>> devices are detected as clickpads by the kernel, so you may need to
>>> manually override the clickpad detection.
>>>
>>> I have attached two scripts. The first enables clickpad support, and the
>>> second enables a "right button area" in the lower right corner of the
>>> trackpad. The 'right button area" should overlap with the right button
>>> area painted on some ClickPads. You are free to enable or disable it as
>>> you wish.
>>>
>>> The scripts require the device name or id as the first argument. You can
>>> query the device name and id by running "xinput list".
>>>
>>> So what does this do?
>>>
>>> * You can now perform click-and-drag with two separate fingers
>>> * With the right button area enabled, a button press in the area will
>>>   fire a right button press instead of a left button press
>>> * Click actions are possible, but they are an advanced feature I don't
>>>   want to support yet by detailing them here
>>>
>>> If we get good feedback on this, then I would like to push it into
>>> Precise. I also want to add a checkbox to the mouse settings preferences
>>> to enable the right button area too.
>>>
>>> Thanks for testing!
>>>
>>> -- Chase
>>
>> Just ran through a dist-upgrade to make sure I was current, added your PPA 
>> and pulled in the new x-x-i-synaptics package.
>>
>> ... enabled both scripts with my magic trackpad and did a bit of testing 
>> with the program I have been wanting this support for since I purchased it, 
>> Thunderbird :)
>>
>> Everything is working flawlessly, lower right gives me right click, and I 
>> can easily move items around now after a click and hold.
>>
>> I'll keep testing things out and will report any oddities if I run across 
>> any.
>>
>> Would you prefer I give you a ping or file a bug if anything comes up?
> 
> Replying to this thread would be best. That way everyone can see any 
> potential issues when a decision is made on pushing to precise. The changes 
> are not trivial, so all feedback is helpful.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- Chase


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[Bug 913793] Re: keyboard backlight adjust wrongly

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** Also affects: gnome-settings-daemon
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Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

[David Klasinc]

> _Ubuntu,Please listen to us. The voice from users! _

Dear The Voice [1],

I've read your posts and I tried really hard to make out what are you
trying to tell us. I really did. It seems to me that you are generally
displeased with Ubuntu.

Other than that, you generated a lot of noise and made much ado about
nothing. I don't like peanut butter and you don't see me writing emails
to peanut butter companies telling them that their products taste awful
and that they should really make something like Nutella.

If you have something meaningful to add, to criticize or to tell Ubuntu
developers, please do, by all means. Make a list of specific things that
are bothering you and present them in a civilized way to the relevant
people.

You indeed have this option and there are numerous ways on how you can
do this, but please, be brief and be specific. When you say: "I don't
like Ubuntu." Nobody, without a crystal ball or a pack of fortune
tellers cards, can't really tell what is bothering you.

I do apologize for the rant, but this thread isn't upsetting just my
mailbox, it reached my bowels. :/

Regards,
David


[1] - addressed to the original poster, but for everyone who _knows_
that Unity sucks and they _know_ everybody is running away from Ubuntu.

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Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

[Manish Sinha]

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Life Monad  wrote:
> But when I see Unity,I am confused. Did I need test my program on Unity?
> These desktop env have different API &UX. Programs can't do a good
> seamless integration with desktop env(also file managers such as Nautilus .
> Konqueror).

Every desktop environment has some differences. Many share common
APIs. What actually is your point. You should not expect a KDE
application to run as smoothly in Unity/GNOME as it runs in KDE. Some
integration might be missing.

> Hn...Ha... Why not  GNOME X.X? Great Unification.

I like GNOME shell, but again it is personal choice. Use whatever you want

> Ubuntu,Please listen to us. The voice from users!

I never voted you to be the voice of users. Please speak for yourself.


Office suit has changed only once and there is a genuine reason.
Window buttons has changed only once. You want a dumb theme? Why drop
Unity? Just because you don't like it? Many users like Unity. They
just use it with satisfaction without spamming the Internet on how
much they like Unity (unlike Unity haters)

> Now,I choose Xubuntu,  never Unity

I am happy you found your choice of desktop in the Ubuntu family. I found mine.

There is an extremely loud vocal minority which hates Unity, due to
which many people fall in a delusion that everyone hates Unity. You
want to know what is the problem with any Ubuntu discussion these
days?  People can't just talk about anything these days without facing
the Unity hater crowd. Look at this.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sl8EjF5vsf4/Tzis4sfU5tI/EP0/Pb0Eafp1WmE/s924/unitycommonsense.png

I know you are tired. You need rest while the Ubuntu developers are
listening to their users and striking a fine balance between
"satisfying everyone's personal pet wish" and "developing the desktop
which can be used by the majority".

The best solution is not just blindly listening to users and doing
what they ask for. Sometimes you need to say a firm NO and do what
actually is good for everyone rather than listen to someone and
fulfill his pet wish. You must have heard this quote from Henry Ford:
--> If I'd asked customers what they wanted, they would have said "a
faster horse".

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Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

[Thomas Prost]

Am Montag, den 13.02.2012, 12:39 +0800 schrieb Life Monad:

BTW:You can  image, while user works,he open a new window,...desktop
disappears.

<-- that´s it !
And as I still like to run my office applications in full size windows,
I´m looking forward to forget the unity-crisis for some hours ;-)
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Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

[Thomas Prost]

> Don't mistake the loudest opinions for the majority opinion.  There
> are 
> plenty of people who, like me, really enjoy using Unity everyday.  We 
> just don't hijack every blog of Google+ comment thread to say so.

... and more probably than not, there are unfortunately just as much
people - like me, who do NOT enjoy their "daily unity" but do use it
devoid of grumbling, because they´re committed to the rest of ubuntu
(for months, it seems to me, as if there has merely been a copy of unity
on some ISOs or CDs ?)- also without blogging it everywhere (sorry,
first time happens here) :-( 

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Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

[Life Monad]

Sorry,It means : users  who agree with me,who like me,tasted ubuntu's new
version but disappoint it. ...Hn..Obviously you known.
After trying Kubuntu  I was a bit annoyed. So, maybe full of  complaint.
(I know that Canonical will no longer provide financial support to the
development of
Kubuntu after the April release of Kubuntu 12.04.)

However,thank you for your work. Maybe, because I'm tired.

2012/2/13 John Rowland Lenton 

> On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:24:49 +0800, Ji Cheng  wrote:
> >
> > *Ubuntu,Please listen to us. The voice from users! *
>
> my apologies, I seem to have missed the vote that made you my
> spokesperson. Where and when was it?
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Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

[Tobia Tesan]

Il 13/02/2012 11:35, Life Monad ha scritto:

In fact, I also merely use Vim/Emacs/Terminal developping in most time.
These suggestions for Ubuntu desktop's development.
Pitifully,so far, linux desktop users, geek & tech & programmer are 
the majority.


Maybe ... Linux desktop market share still never  greater than 10% , 
 in the future.


You know, this is starting to remind me of the "Pussy Magnet" scene in 
Borat.


I don't think I've seen any *real* suggestion whatsoever, except for a 
long-winded stream of consciousness which can be reduced to "I like 
Slackware. I wish Ubuntu was Slackware. If this can't be done, at least 
I wish 12.04 was pretty much like 8.04.".


(Also, real men don't use xterm.
They build a real terminal with an oscilloscope and some ICs.)

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RE: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

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Flame on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_Torch.png

Sorry could not resist !

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flashy & silly themes,desktop-effects!

On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:24:49 +0800, Ji Cheng  wrote:
>
> *Ubuntu,Please listen to us. The voice from users! *

my apologies, I seem to have missed the vote that made you my
spokesperson. Where and when was it?

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Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

[John Rowland Lenton]

On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:24:49 +0800, Ji Cheng  wrote:
> 
> *Ubuntu,Please listen to us. The voice from users! *

my apologies, I seem to have missed the vote that made you my
spokesperson. Where and when was it?


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Re:Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

[Life Monad]

In fact, I also merely use Vim/Emacs/Terminal developping in most time.
These suggestions for Ubuntu desktop's development.
Pitifully,so far, linux desktop users, geek & tech & programmer are the
majority.

Maybe ... Linux desktop market share still never  greater than 10% ,  in
the future.


Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Tobia Tesan ha scritto:

> Il 13/02/2012 10:47, Life Monad ha scritto:
>
> Debian,Gentoo,Slackware,Ubuntu
>
>> I  use all four, for different purpouses, of course.
>
> You use all four??
> GNOME,Unity,KDE,Xfce
>
>
> No. I'm not touching KDE with a 4-foot pole (sorry, KDE folks, you are
> doing a great job, but I'm just not a KDE guy :).
> I also find GNOME2 "neither fish nor flesh" these days.
>
> I run Oneiric+Unity on my "everyday" laptop (making it, among other
> advantages, girlfriend-compliant :) and either Slackware+FVWM or
> Debian+WindowMaker on my decrepit laptop and/or on my EEEPC, when I need a
> distractions-free envinronment to run an Emacs session and maybe pine on an
> otherwise sluggish machine.
> Debian is also my server OS of choice, Gentoo is for playing around :)
>
> Makes perfect sense to me.
>
>
> ohdifferent tools for different purposes
>
>
> Do you seriously think that I should attempt to run Unity on a S3 Virge
> and/or I should slap FVWM on my girlfriend's uber-specced MBP and teach her
> how to edit .fvwmrc? :)
>
>
> Maybe,because linux desktop developers only have been  listening to those
> users who already are using linux and like it.
>
> Maybe...
>
>
> Oh, come one, Unity is a definite step in the opposite direction.
> Everybody knows that real developers don't even use a DE, they do
> everything within an emacs session :P
> (See also: http://xkcd.com/378/)
>
> But enough about me - seriously, if you don't like Ubuntu, why not just
> use Debian?
> It basically IS Ubuntu minus the bits you don't like.
>
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Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

[Tobia Tesan]

Il 13/02/2012 10:47, Life Monad ha scritto:

Debian,Gentoo,Slackware,Ubuntu

I use all four, for different purpouses, of course. 


You use all four??
GNOME,Unity,KDE,Xfce


No. I'm not touching KDE with a 4-foot pole (sorry, KDE folks, you are 
doing a great job, but I'm just not a KDE guy :).

I also find GNOME2 "neither fish nor flesh" these days.

I run Oneiric+Unity on my "everyday" laptop (making it, among other 
advantages, girlfriend-compliant :) and either Slackware+FVWM or 
Debian+WindowMaker on my decrepit laptop and/or on my EEEPC, when I need 
a distractions-free envinronment to run an Emacs session and maybe pine 
on an otherwise sluggish machine.

Debian is also my server OS of choice, Gentoo is for playing around :)

Makes perfect sense to me.


ohdifferent tools for different purposes


Do you seriously think that I should attempt to run Unity on a S3 Virge 
and/or I should slap FVWM on my girlfriend's uber-specced MBP and teach 
her how to edit .fvwmrc? :)


Maybe,because linux desktop developers only have been  listening to 
those users who already are using linux and like it.

Maybe...


Oh, come one, Unity is a definite step in the opposite direction.
Everybody knows that real developers don't even use a DE, they do 
everything within an emacs session :P

(See also: http://xkcd.com/378/)

But enough about me - seriously, if you don't like Ubuntu, why not just 
use Debian?

It basically IS Ubuntu minus the bits you don't like.

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Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

[Life Monad]

Debian,Gentoo,Slackware,Ubuntu

> I  use all four, for different purpouses, of course.

You use all four??
GNOME,Unity,KDE,Xfce
ohdifferent tools for different purposes
ohmy god.

Maybe that's why linux desktop market share never  greater than 10%.

All decisions so far regarding Ubuntu's design and Unity have been
> made by large groups of people, and every decision has been influenced
> a lot by user testing and feedback


Maybe,because linux desktop developers only have been  listening to those
users who already are using linux and like it.

Maybe...


2012/2/13 Tobia Tesan 

> Il 13/02/2012 04:16, scott ha scritto:
>
>  On 02/12/2012 09:47 PM, Michael Hall wrote:
>>
>>> Please keep in mind that everybody who makes Ubuntu is also an Ubuntu
>>> user, and a large portion of Ubuntu's users are also involved in making it.
>>>
>>> Michael Hall
>>> mhall...@ubuntu.com
>>>
>>>
>>>  You can't tell by all the backlash against Unity, at the least.
>>
>
> Those who REALLY like it (yours truly included) don't feel the urge to
> start 12567 threads about how much they like it over vanilla Gnome or
> Window Maker (I absolutely LOVE bot Unity and WM - again, different tools
> for different purpouses) :)
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Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

[Tobia Tesan]

Il 13/02/2012 04:16, scott ha scritto:

On 02/12/2012 09:47 PM, Michael Hall wrote:
Please keep in mind that everybody who makes Ubuntu is also an Ubuntu 
user, and a large portion of Ubuntu's users are also involved in 
making it.


Michael Hall
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You can't tell by all the backlash against Unity, at the least.


Those who REALLY like it (yours truly included) don't feel the urge to 
start 12567 threads about how much they like it over vanilla Gnome or 
Window Maker (I absolutely LOVE bot Unity and WM - again, different 
tools for different purpouses) :)


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Re: Fwd:Ubuntu, please don't waste time on upgrading your flashy & silly themes, desktop-effects!

[Tobia Tesan]

Il 13/02/2012 03:24, Ji Cheng ha scritto:

Before,I have start a discussion,complain about kubuntu's performance
and ubuntu's useless upgrade. That post is  long-winded. So I start
a new thread.

_Ubuntu,Please listen to us. The voice from users! _



I don't really get it.

Ubuntu is *about* a sexy desktop for end-users with all the latest bells 
and whistles.
If you are a moderate traditionalist or don't have a lot of memory, go 
Debian.

If you are a luddite, go Slackware.
If you are an ubergeek, go Gentoo.

I use all four, for different purpouses, of course.
Why should I want Ubuntu to be Debian, when I already have Debian?

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