Re: Remove Python2 for 18.04?
Hi Kev, In 17.10 Ubuntu switched from Fcitx to IBus as default IM framework for CJKV languages because of limitations in the GNOME environment (Wayland, gnome-shell, gnome-control-center...). Please note that this change does not affect the flavors at this time. Fcitx is still the default IM framework for CJKV languages in Xubuntu, Lubuntu, MATE etc. (and, of course, in Kylin), since Fcitx is still (AFAIK) considered preferable by affected users in the Ubuntu community. Rgds, / Gunnar On 2017-10-28 03:17, flocculant wrote: Not sure if any of this gnome language stuff is going to cause us issue like it has in the past. re trusty LTS bug(s) Never really sure about any gnome statements that it ' only affects us' things anymore, consequently forwarding to us. starting to think the same about mainbuntu - don't believe anything deliberate, but fairly sure they'd not check either. Kev On 27/10/17 22:49, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: On 2017-10-27 21:22, Bryan Quigley wrote: * ibus-sunpinyin Was added 9/2017 [2] as part of moving from fcitx. Right. Choosing ibus-sunpinyin was not preceded by any deeper considerations. It was the preferred input method last time Ubuntu's default IM framework for Simplified Chinese was IBus, and has been pulled by language-selector (pkg_depends) after that for Ubuntu GNOME. This package hasn't been updated since 2013. Previously we've added it to the desktop session and then removed for ibus-pinyin for size (and in this case it seems better maintained). GNOME seems to default to ibus-libpinyin: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-desktop/tree/libgnome-desktop/default-input-sources.h That would speak for replacing ibus-sunpinyin with ibus-libpinyin on both the live CD and language-selector. But we should probably try to get opinions from some Chinese users before making this change. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Remove Python2 for 18.04?
Not sure if any of this gnome language stuff is going to cause us issue like it has in the past. re trusty LTS bug(s) Never really sure about any gnome statements that it ' only affects us' things anymore, consequently forwarding to us. starting to think the same about mainbuntu - don't believe anything deliberate, but fairly sure they'd not check either. Kev On 27/10/17 22:49, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: On 2017-10-27 21:22, Bryan Quigley wrote: * ibus-sunpinyin Was added 9/2017 [2] as part of moving from fcitx. Right. Choosing ibus-sunpinyin was not preceded by any deeper considerations. It was the preferred input method last time Ubuntu's default IM framework for Simplified Chinese was IBus, and has been pulled by language-selector (pkg_depends) after that for Ubuntu GNOME. This package hasn't been updated since 2013. Previously we've added it to the desktop session and then removed for ibus-pinyin for size (and in this case it seems better maintained). GNOME seems to default to ibus-libpinyin: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-desktop/tree/libgnome-desktop/default-input-sources.h That would speak for replacing ibus-sunpinyin with ibus-libpinyin on both the live CD and language-selector. But we should probably try to get opinions from some Chinese users before making this change. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Remove Python2 for 18.04?
On 2017-10-27 21:22, Bryan Quigley wrote: * ibus-sunpinyin Was added 9/2017 [2] as part of moving from fcitx. Right. Choosing ibus-sunpinyin was not preceded by any deeper considerations. It was the preferred input method last time Ubuntu's default IM framework for Simplified Chinese was IBus, and has been pulled by language-selector (pkg_depends) after that for Ubuntu GNOME. This package hasn't been updated since 2013. Previously we've added it to the desktop session and then removed for ibus-pinyin for size (and in this case it seems better maintained). GNOME seems to default to ibus-libpinyin: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-desktop/tree/libgnome-desktop/default-input-sources.h That would speak for replacing ibus-sunpinyin with ibus-libpinyin on both the live CD and language-selector. But we should probably try to get opinions from some Chinese users before making this change. -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Remove Python2 for 18.04?
Hi, 2 items keeping python2.7-minimal on the livecd. * cifs-utils Was added in 2010 for using a CIFS root= in casper. That seems like a very specific use case, that could just be on a customized image? (it also appears in server manifest) * ibus-sunpinyin Was added 9/2017 [2] as part of moving from fcitx. This package hasn't been updated since 2013. Previously we've added it to the desktop session and then removed for ibus-pinyin for size (and in this case it seems better maintained). Once installed, I believe the remaining libpython2 are both due to Samba, which is well known as a blocking python2 dependency : gnome-control-center from a temporary patch for printer sharing gvfs-backends - from samba support Kind regards, Bryan [1] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.artful/revision/1760 [2] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.artful/revision/2570.1.1 -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
