Re: Firefox Extensions still needed?
We have audited the extensions again. Even the simpler xul-ext-websites-integration requires quite a rewrite to support the convergence case. It still uses greasemokey internally and though it doesn't do much anymore, either the code audit or the rewrite will be painful. We are now considering the alternative chrome extension using the cleaner PPAPI protocol, as a way to signal the existence of webapps inside a browser. The code already lives here https://code.launchpad.net/~webapps/unity-chromium-extension/15.04 and we should be able to extend it quickly to work with our own browser first, and confined webapps (read clicks and snaps). Once we reach this point, we should be in a better position to propose a new Firefox extension. Long story short: we are going to drop the old webapps extensions for Firefox. David On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Bryan Quigley gquig...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So if I'm understanding correctly, than xul-ext-webaccounts and xul-ext-unity could be dropped for 15.10? Thanks! Bryan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:25 AM, David Barth david.ba...@canonical.com wrote: You're right: not all of them actually make sense in the new world order, as we have a better solution on touch devices in particular. That's why we started with just the one that signals the existence of webapps. The better integration points and OA links are now directly with webapp-container. Still the main one makes sense to keep around. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Bryan Quigley gquig...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, Are those extensions still needed for our Unity vision or does the new Ubuntu browser make them obsolete? Already the Chromium part of those extensions no longer works, could the Firefox part be dropped too? What specifically is each one supposed to do? Kind regards, Bryan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:48 AM, David Barth david.ba...@canonical.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:41 PM, David Barth david.ba...@canonical.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Chris Coulson chrisccoul...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 10/08/15 22:21, Xavier Guillot wrote: Hi, I can't answer to this specific question, but as an user with Firefox as default browser on Ubuntu 15.04 Desktop, if those addons are kept, perhaps they need to be signed. Today when I updated to the latest FF Nightly 42.0a1 on the daily ppa, Mozilla activated the obligation to use only officially signed extensions: https://support.mozilla.org/fr/kb/add-on-signing-in-firefox All 3 Ubuntu addons were automatically desactivated. On the nightly version, there is an option in About:config to restore the old behavior (xpinstall.signatures.required set to false), but on future normal and beta versions of Firefox, it will not be possible anymore normally. Even if the addons are provided directly in the packages and not on Mozilla site, it is still also possible to validate them. Best regards, Xavier Ubufox was signed a few weeks ago and will be shipped with the Firefox 40 update tomorrow. However, it's only been through preliminary review, and future Firefox versions disable side-loaded addons that haven't had a full review. I'm not sure about the status of the other addons (cc'ing dbarth). Yup, we've started submitting webapps extensions as well, starting with the main xul-ext-websites-integration. Hmm, actually there is a problem, but thanks for the reminder. David -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Firefox Extensions still needed?
Hi David, So if I'm understanding correctly, than xul-ext-webaccounts and xul-ext-unity could be dropped for 15.10? Thanks! Bryan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:25 AM, David Barth david.ba...@canonical.com wrote: You're right: not all of them actually make sense in the new world order, as we have a better solution on touch devices in particular. That's why we started with just the one that signals the existence of webapps. The better integration points and OA links are now directly with webapp-container. Still the main one makes sense to keep around. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Bryan Quigley gquig...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, Are those extensions still needed for our Unity vision or does the new Ubuntu browser make them obsolete? Already the Chromium part of those extensions no longer works, could the Firefox part be dropped too? What specifically is each one supposed to do? Kind regards, Bryan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:48 AM, David Barth david.ba...@canonical.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:41 PM, David Barth david.ba...@canonical.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Chris Coulson chrisccoul...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 10/08/15 22:21, Xavier Guillot wrote: Hi, I can't answer to this specific question, but as an user with Firefox as default browser on Ubuntu 15.04 Desktop, if those addons are kept, perhaps they need to be signed. Today when I updated to the latest FF Nightly 42.0a1 on the daily ppa, Mozilla activated the obligation to use only officially signed extensions: https://support.mozilla.org/fr/kb/add-on-signing-in-firefox All 3 Ubuntu addons were automatically desactivated. On the nightly version, there is an option in About:config to restore the old behavior (xpinstall.signatures.required set to false), but on future normal and beta versions of Firefox, it will not be possible anymore normally. Even if the addons are provided directly in the packages and not on Mozilla site, it is still also possible to validate them. Best regards, Xavier Ubufox was signed a few weeks ago and will be shipped with the Firefox 40 update tomorrow. However, it's only been through preliminary review, and future Firefox versions disable side-loaded addons that haven't had a full review. I'm not sure about the status of the other addons (cc'ing dbarth). Yup, we've started submitting webapps extensions as well, starting with the main xul-ext-websites-integration. Hmm, actually there is a problem, but thanks for the reminder. David -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Firefox Extensions still needed?
On 10/08/15 22:21, Xavier Guillot wrote: Hi, I can't answer to this specific question, but as an user with Firefox as default browser on Ubuntu 15.04 Desktop, if those addons are kept, perhaps they need to be signed. Today when I updated to the latest FF Nightly 42.0a1 on the daily ppa, Mozilla activated the obligation to use only officially signed extensions: https://support.mozilla.org/fr/kb/add-on-signing-in-firefox All 3 Ubuntu addons were automatically desactivated. On the nightly version, there is an option in About:config to restore the old behavior (xpinstall.signatures.required set to false), but on future normal and beta versions of Firefox, it will not be possible anymore normally. Even if the addons are provided directly in the packages and not on Mozilla site, it is still also possible to validate them. Best regards, Xavier Ubufox was signed a few weeks ago and will be shipped with the Firefox 40 update tomorrow. However, it's only been through preliminary review, and future Firefox versions disable side-loaded addons that haven't had a full review. I'm not sure about the status of the other addons (cc'ing dbarth). Regards - Chris -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Firefox Extensions still needed?
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:41 PM, David Barth david.ba...@canonical.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Chris Coulson chrisccoul...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 10/08/15 22:21, Xavier Guillot wrote: Hi, I can't answer to this specific question, but as an user with Firefox as default browser on Ubuntu 15.04 Desktop, if those addons are kept, perhaps they need to be signed. Today when I updated to the latest FF Nightly 42.0a1 on the daily ppa, Mozilla activated the obligation to use only officially signed extensions: https://support.mozilla.org/fr/kb/add-on-signing-in-firefox All 3 Ubuntu addons were automatically desactivated. On the nightly version, there is an option in About:config to restore the old behavior (xpinstall.signatures.required set to false), but on future normal and beta versions of Firefox, it will not be possible anymore normally. Even if the addons are provided directly in the packages and not on Mozilla site, it is still also possible to validate them. Best regards, Xavier Ubufox was signed a few weeks ago and will be shipped with the Firefox 40 update tomorrow. However, it's only been through preliminary review, and future Firefox versions disable side-loaded addons that haven't had a full review. I'm not sure about the status of the other addons (cc'ing dbarth). Yup, we've started submitting webapps extensions as well, starting with the main xul-ext-websites-integration. Hmm, actually there is a problem, but thanks for the reminder. David -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Firefox Extensions still needed?
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Chris Coulson chrisccoul...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 10/08/15 22:21, Xavier Guillot wrote: Hi, I can't answer to this specific question, but as an user with Firefox as default browser on Ubuntu 15.04 Desktop, if those addons are kept, perhaps they need to be signed. Today when I updated to the latest FF Nightly 42.0a1 on the daily ppa, Mozilla activated the obligation to use only officially signed extensions: https://support.mozilla.org/fr/kb/add-on-signing-in-firefox All 3 Ubuntu addons were automatically desactivated. On the nightly version, there is an option in About:config to restore the old behavior (xpinstall.signatures.required set to false), but on future normal and beta versions of Firefox, it will not be possible anymore normally. Even if the addons are provided directly in the packages and not on Mozilla site, it is still also possible to validate them. Best regards, Xavier Ubufox was signed a few weeks ago and will be shipped with the Firefox 40 update tomorrow. However, it's only been through preliminary review, and future Firefox versions disable side-loaded addons that haven't had a full review. I'm not sure about the status of the other addons (cc'ing dbarth). Yup, we've started submitting webapps extensions as well, starting with the main xul-ext-websites-integration. David -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Firefox Extensions still needed?
Hi David, Are those extensions still needed for our Unity vision or does the new Ubuntu browser make them obsolete? Already the Chromium part of those extensions no longer works, could the Firefox part be dropped too? What specifically is each one supposed to do? Kind regards, Bryan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:48 AM, David Barth david.ba...@canonical.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:41 PM, David Barth david.ba...@canonical.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Chris Coulson chrisccoul...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 10/08/15 22:21, Xavier Guillot wrote: Hi, I can't answer to this specific question, but as an user with Firefox as default browser on Ubuntu 15.04 Desktop, if those addons are kept, perhaps they need to be signed. Today when I updated to the latest FF Nightly 42.0a1 on the daily ppa, Mozilla activated the obligation to use only officially signed extensions: https://support.mozilla.org/fr/kb/add-on-signing-in-firefox All 3 Ubuntu addons were automatically desactivated. On the nightly version, there is an option in About:config to restore the old behavior (xpinstall.signatures.required set to false), but on future normal and beta versions of Firefox, it will not be possible anymore normally. Even if the addons are provided directly in the packages and not on Mozilla site, it is still also possible to validate them. Best regards, Xavier Ubufox was signed a few weeks ago and will be shipped with the Firefox 40 update tomorrow. However, it's only been through preliminary review, and future Firefox versions disable side-loaded addons that haven't had a full review. I'm not sure about the status of the other addons (cc'ing dbarth). Yup, we've started submitting webapps extensions as well, starting with the main xul-ext-websites-integration. Hmm, actually there is a problem, but thanks for the reminder. David -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Firefox Extensions still needed?
Le 11/08/2015 14:48, David Barth a écrit : Hmm, actually there is a problem, but thanks for the reminder. Hey David, Thanks for the reply, can you give some detail on that? Do we have registered bugs for the issues? Cheers, Sebastien Bacher -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Firefox Extensions still needed?
You're right: not all of them actually make sense in the new world order, as we have a better solution on touch devices in particular. That's why we started with just the one that signals the existence of webapps. The better integration points and OA links are now directly with webapp-container. Still the main one makes sense to keep around. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Bryan Quigley gquig...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, Are those extensions still needed for our Unity vision or does the new Ubuntu browser make them obsolete? Already the Chromium part of those extensions no longer works, could the Firefox part be dropped too? What specifically is each one supposed to do? Kind regards, Bryan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:48 AM, David Barth david.ba...@canonical.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:41 PM, David Barth david.ba...@canonical.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Chris Coulson chrisccoul...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 10/08/15 22:21, Xavier Guillot wrote: Hi, I can't answer to this specific question, but as an user with Firefox as default browser on Ubuntu 15.04 Desktop, if those addons are kept, perhaps they need to be signed. Today when I updated to the latest FF Nightly 42.0a1 on the daily ppa, Mozilla activated the obligation to use only officially signed extensions: https://support.mozilla.org/fr/kb/add-on-signing-in-firefox All 3 Ubuntu addons were automatically desactivated. On the nightly version, there is an option in About:config to restore the old behavior (xpinstall.signatures.required set to false), but on future normal and beta versions of Firefox, it will not be possible anymore normally. Even if the addons are provided directly in the packages and not on Mozilla site, it is still also possible to validate them. Best regards, Xavier Ubufox was signed a few weeks ago and will be shipped with the Firefox 40 update tomorrow. However, it's only been through preliminary review, and future Firefox versions disable side-loaded addons that haven't had a full review. I'm not sure about the status of the other addons (cc'ing dbarth). Yup, we've started submitting webapps extensions as well, starting with the main xul-ext-websites-integration. Hmm, actually there is a problem, but thanks for the reminder. David -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Firefox Extensions still needed?
HI, I'm wondering if we still need these three Firefox extensions. I can't tell* what they do in Wily: Ubuntu Online Accounts(xul-ext-webaccounts) Unity Desktop Integration (xul-ext-unity) Unity Websites integration (xul-ext-websites-integration) With a Unity specific browser coming, is there a reason to maintain these? Kind regards, Bryan Ubuntu Firefox Modifications (xul-ext-ubufox) Does the defaults change, apt://, etc - still useful * Online Accounts for Gmail doesn't set up anything specific for the browser. My Firefox doesn't seem better integrated with them on. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Firefox Extensions still needed?
Hi, I can't answer to this specific question, but as an user with Firefox as default browser on Ubuntu 15.04 Desktop, if those addons are kept, perhaps they need to be signed. Today when I updated to the latest FF Nightly 42.0a1 on the daily ppa, Mozilla activated the obligation to use only officially signed extensions: https://support.mozilla.org/fr/kb/add-on-signing-in-firefox All 3 Ubuntu addons were automatically desactivated. On the nightly version, there is an option in About:config to restore the old behavior (xpinstall.signatures.required set to false), but on future normal and beta versions of Firefox, it will not be possible anymore normally. Even if the addons are provided directly in the packages and not on Mozilla site, it is still also possible to validate them. Best regards, Xavier Le 10/08/2015 19:21, Bryan Quigley a écrit : HI, I'm wondering if we still need these three Firefox extensions. I can't tell* what they do in Wily: Ubuntu Online Accounts(xul-ext-webaccounts) Unity Desktop Integration (xul-ext-unity) Unity Websites integration (xul-ext-websites-integration) With a Unity specific browser coming, is there a reason to maintain these? Kind regards, Bryan Ubuntu Firefox Modifications (xul-ext-ubufox) Does the defaults change, apt://, etc - still useful * Online Accounts for Gmail doesn't set up anything specific for the browser. My Firefox doesn't seem better integrated with them on. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Firefox Extensions still needed?
Hi Xavier, That's actually what triggered my email which I forgot to mention, so thanks for bringing it up! Bryan On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Xavier Guillot valeryan...@laposte.net wrote: Hi, I can't answer to this specific question, but as an user with Firefox as default browser on Ubuntu 15.04 Desktop, if those addons are kept, perhaps they need to be signed. Today when I updated to the latest FF Nightly 42.0a1 on the daily ppa, Mozilla activated the obligation to use only officially signed extensions: https://support.mozilla.org/fr/kb/add-on-signing-in-firefox All 3 Ubuntu addons were automatically desactivated. On the nightly version, there is an option in About:config to restore the old behavior (xpinstall.signatures.required set to false), but on future normal and beta versions of Firefox, it will not be possible anymore normally. Even if the addons are provided directly in the packages and not on Mozilla site, it is still also possible to validate them. Best regards, Xavier Le 10/08/2015 19:21, Bryan Quigley a écrit : HI, I'm wondering if we still need these three Firefox extensions. I can't tell* what they do in Wily: Ubuntu Online Accounts(xul-ext-webaccounts) Unity Desktop Integration (xul-ext-unity) Unity Websites integration (xul-ext-websites-integration) With a Unity specific browser coming, is there a reason to maintain these? Kind regards, Bryan Ubuntu Firefox Modifications (xul-ext-ubufox) Does the defaults change, apt://, etc - still useful * Online Accounts for Gmail doesn't set up anything specific for the browser. My Firefox doesn't seem better integrated with them on. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
